Does God beget ?

Jocko wrote:        As I said before some of us need to contemplate that the very term "eternal life" means more than we assume.     It is not just a life which is in duration endless. Eternal life, which God is, must be a life which is capable of existing in a manner beyond the known limitations that our created human lives can either imagine or understand.     We can never explain how God can be one God yet the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three _____.     I think Israfil's attitude is "You cannot explain it. So this means that it must not be so. It must not be real."     No, the Father and Son and Holy Spirit are quite real. We just have to be humbled under the mighty existence of God and receive Him into us even though we cannot explain Him.    There is a verse which says that the peace of Christ passes everyman's understanding. There is an unspeakable peace of knowing that you have tasted God Himself upon Christ coming into your heart. He Himself is the answer. The answer is with His presence and in His life.    The more I think about it the more I realize that God chooses to humble man by coming to Him in a way in which man cannot fully comprehend. The Triune God to me is evidence that the statements of the Bible are from God and not from man's invention. Man would never invent something so perplexing. He is too proud and too confident in his knowledge.  God comes and says to believe. Who on the earth walked and lived and expressed God more than Jesus? Who is more of a candidate to be worshipped as God than Jesus? He is in a class all His own. No prophet and no want to be prophet comes anywhere close to Christ. The second most likely person is far far away from the First.   Christ defined God, expressed and manifested God to the uttermost. In Him God and man are mingled, united, blended, and incorporated in mutual indwelling and forever.    Christ, the God-man, is the meaning of God and man and the universe.

Jocko,

Please tell me if Christ, the "godman" or the "mangod" taught anything about this? I don't see Jesus talking anything about this. Don't you ever question this?

The last time God humbled the man when the mountain shook under the thunder of God and all men were crying and pleading Moses, asking him to tell God not to show Himself.

BMZ

BMZ wrote: Israfil wrote: Jocko, Thus my point: you cannot prove it..... Not a single Christian can prove it, Israfil. That comes under doctrines and dogmas, thought of by men who could simply not understand Jesus. Salaams BMZ

Brother BMZ this is why I believe the Quranic revelation of the prophet Jesus prevailing. Prophet Jesus is not the one of three, that is of the trinue God. There is only one God. I don't understand why we all cannot believe that there is one God who is the Artisan of all the planets, stars and the entire universe.

 How does the Quran undermind the Bible? It does not do it by ignoring it. It is much more subtle than that. It does so by talking about it and adding other things. It discusses the Bible and adds to it lies.

  This is like a mother who wants to get her child to stop drinking milk. She put a little water into it each day. Day after day she adds a little more water and leaves out a little more milk. Eventually the baby's taste is no more for the milk.

 The Quran pretends that it has the "inside story" on all the Bible accounts. It makes a pretense of adding previously unknown details which the writer was privy to. These additional details are fabrications. The fabrications are designed to destroy the revelation of the Bible, NOT to support it. It pretends that the author  was there to witness this and that. Then it adds its own spin to all the teachings of the Bible. Gradually by adding more and more of someone else's concepts it seeks to dilute the teaching of the Bible.

  You cannot pat the Son of God  on the head with a polite "PBUH" and dismiss Him in favor of the "prophet" Mohammed.  At least you cannot so easily. If Mohammed gets to you you must reject Christ and His life, death, resurrection and central claims.

  On the other hand if you surrender to the love and redemption of Christ you will begin to recognize the subtle opposition to your soul's salvation that is intrinsically designed into the Quran.

  The Quran's purpose is to keep you from the salvation of Christ.

Israfil wrote: BMZ wrote: Israfil wrote: Jocko, Thus my point: you cannot prove it..... Not a single Christian can prove it, Israfil. That comes under doctrines and dogmas, thought of by men who could simply not understand Jesus. Salaams BMZ Brother BMZ this is why I believe the Quranic revelation of the prophet Jesus prevailing. Prophet Jesus is not the one of three, that is of the trinue God. There is only one God. I don't understand why we all cannot believe that there is one God who is the Artisan of all the planets, stars and the entire universe.

Israfil,

Please look at what I have emboldened in your post. That statement leaves no room for any doubts and destroys any fasle understanding. 

I wrote the following on a very nice Jewish site, where I am always welcome and I am the only Muslim there:

The translations create hell of a confusion for a not-understanding mind, specially if that mind does not know about the language, that culture and the time in which it was told. Yes, it should be left in it's original so that no nonsense can be made out of it. Just look at how much misinterpretation has been made on the translation "The Lord Almighty is one." The one who translated first, simply meant to show that there is only one Lord Almighty God. And now we are told to believe that the one has a different meaning and wasn't understood by people who had the Scripture for more than three thousand years. The Jews always understood it to mean "There is only One Lord Almighty." Discussions based upon translations are futile. How can a Scripture be discussed through Greek, for example, when the Lord Almighty did not use one word of Greek. LOL! BMZ