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Ron Webb
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And did you read any of this in the Quran, Abu Loren? Or are you just making stuff up?
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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Ron Webb
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The reason we invented God. The reason people cling to a comforting myth regardless of evidence, or even in spite of it.
I'll grant you that belief in God can give you courage, but is this necessarily a good thing? This how suicide bombers are made. They set aside their own wisdom and mindlessly accept an ideology fed to them by others, along with the "courage" to follow that ideology no matter how horrific the consequences. It just happens that your ideology is (relatively) benign, while theirs is malignant. But both are wrong.
I don't need God to teach me that. Neither do you, actually. |
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Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect.
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Caringheart
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Greetings Ron, I disagree, it is knowing God that teaches you... you may deny Him, but He is there, from the beginning, no matter how much you, with your mind, thinking yourself wise in your own wisdom, deny Him. 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. So if you know these things, it is God that gives you the Wisdom to know them. Peace and blessings to you, Caringheart |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Caringheart
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Greetings Abu Loren, I understand where you're coming from, but astronauts... both Russian and American... have gone out into space and gazed back upon the earth, so it's not a matter of 'photo's'. It's a matter of eye witness observations. When you look through a telescope, do you ever see anything in space, in God's creation, that is flat? asalaam and blessings to you, CAringheart |
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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Abu Loren
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"It's all about the money, ain't a damn thing funny" so goes a rap song. All the space faring nations such as the USA, Russia, China, Japan, India etc have made a pact where they will use 'standard' space terminology. These are all scientists in all these countries siphoning off money from the government with huge yearly budgets that exceed the GDP's of some countries. Man has not invented a machine to go into 'outer space', I accept that they can go so high but there is a limit. No man made object or vehicle will work in space. All the probes like voyager, Viking etc are fakes. The 'photos' they sent back were produced in a computer sitting in a room in a NASA office. Our Universe is what we see when we look up. The sky, the clouds, the sun, the moon and the stars etc. There are nothing more than these. Trust your eyes and your instincts NOT NASA. Even the Sun and the Moon are not globes they are circular objects and we can only see one side of it (the shining side). As a Christian I'm surprised you don't believe in a falt earth as the Bible has described the earth as flat. Further more, I tend to believe that there is a barrier or a dome sky. This is because of the following verse in the Qur'an. Sahih International O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ]. 55:33 |
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La Ilaha IllAllah
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Abu Loren
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Your hero's programme is called 'Cosmos'. Check it out and have a real good laugh. :0 |
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La Ilaha IllAllah
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airmano
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This is a freaky example of where naive religious hardcore believe (may) lead you to. Airmano |
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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")
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Ron Webb
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And yet even life-long atheists are generally kind to each other. How did God teach them? And why would He have taught them to love and respect each other, without also teaching them to love a nd respect Him? Even many animals have been shown to exhibit kindness toward each other. Did God teach them as well? Or is it more likely a natural consequence of evolution, that mutual respect and cooperation with members of your own kind is advantageous for the species as a whole?
It's ironic that you would choose to quote from Romans Chapter 1, which is a justification of God's wrath against unbelievers such as myself. This is your idea of "caring for humanity"?
If I followed God's example, I would hate all those who don't believe as I believe. |
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