The Moon (Part 2)

Ron Webb wrote: If the sun is above the horizon everywhere, then why can't we see it everywhere?� And if it's farther away at sunset and sunrise than when it's overhead, then why is it the same angular diameter?

The sun is not over the horizon everywhere. The Sun travels in a circular motion and it points to the area that lights up becoming day and the rest of the area is in darkness causing the night.

There are good Youtube videos pointing out this fact.

Ron Webb wrote: So I'm assuming the sun stays at about the same altitude throughout its motion?Okay -- just for you, I created a special Web site, I fiddled around with a drawing program (never used it before!) and managed to upload this little diagram (see how much I care about your education?

Because from your own perspective the Sun is always at the same height (3,000 - 5,000) miles up in the sky. When you are standing on a flat earth the distance from horizon to horizon is equal, so the Sun appears the same size where ever you are.



Look at the map of the flat earth above and the sun goes around it in a circular motion inside the earth boundary. The red line denotes the circular passasge of the Sun. Also the Sun points down so the light is concentrated at only a percentage of the earth (the other side dark causing night).

You seem to think that the Sun shines the whole of the earth when it rises over the horizon. This is not so.

Edited by Abu Loren - 14 September 2015 at 11:32am

Abu Loren wrote: Because from your own perspective the Sun is always at the same height (3,000 - 5,000) miles up in the sky. When you are standing on a flat earth the distance from horizon to horizon is equal, so the Sun appears the same size where ever you are.

Perspective is exactly what I'm talking about.  Perspective makes more distant objects appear smaller.

Pick a day when the sun is directly overhead in the UAE (let's say about 4000 miles away by your theory).  Notice the apparent size: about half a degree wide.

Now wait about four hours.  The sun will now be somewhere above the Western Sahara.  It's still about 4000 miles above the earth, but its distance from you is about 8000 miles.  That's twice as far away, so from your perspective it should appear half the size.  And as the afternoon continues into evening, it should be moving ever farther away and getting (apparently) smaller and smaller.

But it doesn't, does it?  It's always half a degree wide, regardless.

Look at the map of the flat earth above and the sun goes around it in a circular motion inside the earth boundary.

I'm looking.  It is ludicrously distorted.  According to your map, the shortest air route from Toronto, Canada to anywhere in Australia should be over the Arctic Ocean.  I'm pretty sure if you ask anyone who has taken the flight, they'll tell you they flew only south-west, and never saw the northern ice cap.  And I'm sure if the northern route were shorter, the airlines wouldn't be wasting all that money going the long way around.

You seem to think that the Sun shines the whole of the earth when it rises over the horizon. This is not so.

At what point on that red line is it ever below the horizon?    According to your model it should always be visible (local weather and topography permitting).



Edited by Ron Webb - 14 September 2015 at 12:57pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdoGTeM0koQ