The Original Sin

The Saint wrote: Considering Sweden is the rape capital of Europe

You know that it is being said that this is due to all the immigration of muslims?  Overall, it seems that muslim men do not respect non-muslim women.  Because it is a different culture does not give the right to disrespect and abuse the women, but they do.  The incidences of rape and sexual harassment in general, have only begun since the mass immigration's from the middle east.  Women who once felt safe on the streets of their country, no longer do feel safe.  They had no need to fear their own men, who were not sick in the head with their teaching.

The Saint wrote: Do you know why women are punished? Because they are not supposed to roam around freely as western women do.

How can I even address this?
Rape is a sickness.  It is a perversion.  If men are raping, it is men that have the sickness.
A normal healthy man does not take a woman by force even if she walks by him completely naked.

asalaam,
CAringheart


Edited by Caringheart - 11 November 2015 at 3:29pm

I have credible sources that make Egypt the world capital for rape and sexual harassment.

Airmano

Edited by airmano - 12 November 2015 at 1:39am

The Saint wrote: Maybe. I haven't had time to check. I will, though. But why do you deliberately overlook the accusations I have made against the morality of the western women and the attitude of western men against women. Considering Sweden is the rape capital of Europe and the US is the rape capital of the world.

Already answered.  See also my reply to Caringheart above.

Do you know why women are punished? Because they are not supposed to roam around freely as western women do.

Yes I know, and I find this attitude truly despicable.  Islam treats women like prisoners, with their male relatives as their jailers.  Really, it's demeaning to both men and women -- as if neither sex can be trusted to behave properly.

WHO is a reasonably dependent source. But I still do not agree with their output. Because I have read at other sources as well same or similar facts as on wonderlist

But do you ever check your sources?  Obviously not.  Sure, I can find you a dozen sleazy Web sites just like Wonderlist that will tell you similar lies.

How many times do I have to tell you?  Don't believe stuff just because you read it on the Internet.  Not even if you read it a hundred times on the Internet.  In fact, I'm tempted to say especially if you've read it a hundred times.  As the saying goes, a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its boots.  People just love to copy sensational claims from one Web site to another, and they rarely bother to check the original source.  (Sound familiar?)

By the way, here's a tip.  Whenever you find yourself on an unfamiliar Web site, just look around a bit.  See what other wild claims they make on other pages.  And have a look at the ads with racy pictures and "click-bait" headlines: "Top 10 Hottest Actresses in Hollywood", "Amazing Dirty Photos You Must See", "Men, Viagra hates This Trick..." -- just a few of the "infortainment" items offered on Wonderlist.

If you'd be embarrassed to browse the site with your mother, you probably shouldn't be quoting it here.

And if her husband doesn't allow her to travel to the Shariah Court? Shariah Court will take care of that.

How, if she can't even get to the court??

Since when have you parted ways with Christianity? And why?

Probably in my early teens, but it was a gradual process.  Why?  Because no one could offer me any evidence to back up their outrageous claims.

Anyway, have you heard of Khula?

No I hadn't.  A quick Google search tells me that khula is a process by which a woman can initiate divorce from her husband in exchange for returning her dowry (assuming she still has it).  However, the husband must still agree to the divorce.  If he refuses, it's basically tough luck.  And again, if she can't get to the court, how is she even going to request it?

You know that it is being said that this is due to all the immigration of muslims?

By that do you intend to suggest that Muslims are more inclined to rape than Christians, Jews or Atheists are?

Overall, it seems that muslim men do not respect non-muslim women. Because it is a different culture does not give the right to disrespect and abuse the women, but they do.

I have never heard such propaganda! It is sounds like a prejudiced opinion. However do you have any proof of what you are saying here? Can you offer logical reasoning that could explain, if at all, why Muslim men behave in the alleged manner?

The incidences of rape and sexual harassment in general, have only begun since the mass immigration's from the middle east. Women who once felt safe on the streets of their country, no longer do feel safe. They had no need to fear their own men, who were not sick in the head with their teaching.

I am really surprised to hear you making such nonsensical statements without offering any support to them. Without proof your accusations amount to nothing more than calumny!   

How can I even address this?
Rape is a sickness. It is a perversion. If men are raping, it is men that have the sickness.

Of course, they are sick and criminals, too.

A normal healthy man does not take a woman by force even if she walks by him completely naked.

In words, it sounds fine. Correct. But in real life is that how things happen? It appears to me you have either not been reading about what is happening around you? Because men in your part of the world are very, very sick.