Does God beget ?

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  Jocko, what the heck are you talking about?

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     We were born with one life, the natural life.

     We were born from our mothers with a natural life. When we are born again through faith in Jesus Christ we receive and additional life implanted into our life. This additional life is the Spirit of Jesus Christ.

     The Spirit of Jesus Christ unites with our human spirit deep within and the two become "one spirit".

  We are blended with God.

  We are firmly and organically attached to God.

  We receive the eternal life which is Christ into our being. This alone is out entrance into the new testament church. No one who is not regenerated is a member of the church.

   A man may know the Bible by heart and be a good person. If he has not been born again he is not a member of the church and he is not a constituent of the kingdom of God.

  "He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" (1 Co. 6:17).

   Formerly, this person's innermost kernel of his being was separated from God. It was in a comatose state. It was in a deadened state. He sensed that there was something missing in his life, but he did not know what it was.

 He gropes for God hoping to improve his life and to be right before God. He hopes to achieve self improvement and be pleasing to God.

 But what he neesds it another life in addition to his natural and even religious life. He needs to have his innermost being joined to the Spirit of God.

 Was God the mighty One on Mt. Sanai in Exodus? Yes He was. But today God has become available to us not as the terrifying darkness and fire that He manifested to Moses on Mt. Sanai. He has come as the man Jesus of Nazareth.

 This man lived, and died, and rose again to ascend to the right hand of His Father. He also became the life giving Spirit - "the last Adam became a life giving Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45).

 As the life giving Spirit Christ and His Father can enter into man's being, join with him, live in him and make an abode in him. All of this causes man to be born again with the divine life in addition to the natural life.

  And once again here is where we see Jesus Christ the Son of God,  and His Father  AS the Holy Spirit Who gives life, coming into man as the divine Trinity -

 "Judas, not Isacariot, said to Him, Lord, and what has happened that You are to manifest Yourself to us and not to the world?

  Jesus answered and said to him, If anyone loves Me, he will keep My words, and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make an abode with him." (John 14:22,23)

  The new birth is the entering into our being of Jesus the life giving Spirit. The new birth is the entering into our human spirit of the Father and the Son to make an abode with us.

 The new birth is to receive the resurrected Christ into our innermost and deepest part of our spiritual being. His redeeming blood has made it possible for us to be joined with God in life.

  We can receive the experience of the new birth this way:

 "Lord Jesus, I thank you for your death on the cross for my sins. I realize I am a helpless and perpetual sinner. Lord I receive the new nature right now by opening my heart to You. I even thank You. I know that You are true to You word that You and Your Father will come to make a home within me as You promised in John's gospel.

 Lord Jesus, I receive You. Abba Father, I receive You. Dear God I receive Jesus as my Lord and Savior."

 Then, if this prayer is prayed sincerely, you will be born again. You will be regenerated "not of corruptible seed but of incorruptible, through the living and abide word of God."

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In most of your post you seem to be preaching more than actually discussing.

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     I may sound preachy to you. However, you do not have to sit passively in a pew and listen. You can debate, you can question, you can contradict me, you can preach your own message, you can heckle, make wisecracks, and even turn the discussion into whole different direction.

    So relax. Make your points if you have some.

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God is eternal, and incorporeal so,

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  How come I say "Christ is the life giving Spirit" and its preaching, but you proclaim "God is eternal" and it is not preaching?

  Something's fishy here.

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how are we organically attached to God?

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 I use the word "organic" in a borrowed way. I mean that the regenerated person's union with God is a matter of life.

 Brace yourself - Paul said that we as fallen sinners were "alienated from the life of God" (Eph. 4:18).

 This is more than just being away from God. This is more than just not being on speaking terms with God or not in fellowship with Him.

 Alienated from the life of God means estranged from from touching His very substance. It means apart from God's essence. It is more than just not being in communion with God. Alienated from the life of God is not having the life of God within you.

 This is the astounding revelation of the Bible. God wants to live in man to be man's eternal life and divine life.

 From the very beginning of creation God placed man before "the tree of life". If man had a very good life which had no reason to die, why then was there a need for man to eat of the tree of life?

 I would like you to consult Genesis 2:9 and 3:1-24 and tell me what you think of the tree of life.

 What was it? What was it for?

 Answer me these questions and then we will continue our discussion or preaching with your comments as whichever the case may be.

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You are continually making contradictions here. You guys need to stop preaching and start discussing. I'm really annoyed by these long posts about Biblical poetry. This is a forum to discussion and have dialogue not a sermon.

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  No ushers have escorted you out of your pew for disrupting the sermon. Stop whining.

 This is a sermon you can stop and challenge, debate, change the subject, do pretty much as you please. So stop whining that you're being preached to.

 Preach back if you have the truth.

Jocko wrote: How come I say "Christ is the life giving Spirit" and its preaching, but you proclaim "God is eternal" and it is not preaching? Something's fishy here.

Yes, Jocko, something is not just only fishy but is also wrong. Jesus was also created and given a life by God, the LORD Almighty. Jesus, therefore cannot give life.

BMZ