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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 2:15pm
bye Melco
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 2:39pm

MELCO GET BACK IN HERE RIGHT NOW!!!

but should you continue to think youve said as much as you wish to, then youll know best, and may the Lord bless you, keep you and cause his face to shine upon you and give you peace, amen  

for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 8:12pm
And GUIDE you to the RIGHT PATH, AMEEN....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by Melco Melco wrote:

I am not happy being constantly censured here. Freedom and truth go
hand in hand. I am leaving it here. I am disillusioned with Islam. If
it's followers are anything to go by, it is far too heavy handed for my
taste. If only Muslims would the necessary implications when they
claims to believe in an All Merciful God, but are Non Merciful
themselves. Where's the tolerance? That's why the word "hypocrisy" is
all that I have left to say on the issue. Is Islam true? No, it's
hypocritical. The average atheist probably lives a far holier life.


I dont know what to make of your post, its pretty clear you didint understood it(islam)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 March 2006 at 9:09pm
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MELCO GET BACK IN HERE RIGHT NOW!!! [


but should you continue to think youve said as much as you wish to, then youll know best,�and may the Lord bless you, keep you and cause his face to shine upon you and give you peace, amen��



I think now you will have to fight evalgelist battles alone.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2006 at 12:19pm
ok ahmad, what exactly is the difference between desertion and apostasy in your view?  i have my thoughts about it of course, but since you asked if i understood the difference between them.  i have always viewed desertion as a military term in the first instance, but not exclusively so. apostasy is utter rejection of ones faith, not down to weakness in keeping it or lack of faith in observing it, but deliberate, total rejection of it.  that is my understanding, without even looking up the dictionary
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2006 at 1:30pm

Originally posted by Fredifreeloader Fredifreeloader wrote:

...i have always viewed desertion as a military term in the first instance, but not exclusively so. apostasy is utter rejection of ones faith, not down to weakness in keeping it or lack of faith in observing it, but deliberate, total rejection of it.

Yap! you are correct in your understanding the difference which usually people don't appreciate it even if they open up the dictionary. Somehow, I guess, you have been very close to military. Am I correct?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 March 2006 at 2:27pm
you are not correct, ahmad, in your guess.  i have always been a creature of habit, rather that discipline, with no connection whatever to the military.  but perhaps, having very little self-discipline of my own, i might have responded well to the kind of discipline the military would have imposed (too late for all that now though) - but all this may leave you with a problem, i dont know.  how do you explain the clear reports in the hadith (see my quote from mawdudi) of women being killed for apostasy?  did muhammad enlist them in his army only for them to desert?  or was the issue simply a rejection of his revelations?

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