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Pleasae help me on how to control my addiction. I just want to STOP. The moment I give in, I regret deeply but I cannot maintain that strong mechanism for a long time. At work, everyone says its NORMAL but I know its not. Allah help me!
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Originally posted by kabulkhan kabulkhan wrote:

 
..............medically masturbation and having sex are exactly the same!.......... 
On the surface, masturbation would seem to be harmless. After all, it's just sex with yourself. But there is more to masturbation than meets the eye since masturbation is nearly always accompanied by lustful thoughts
 
The more advanced forms of sexual addiction, such as multiple affairs, sex with prostitutes, or other illegal activities, generally have their beginnings in masturbation.
 
Masturbation addiction is referred to as a "process" addiction, as opposed to a substance addiction like alcohol, or drugs.
 
In a process addiction, the euphoric feeling, or high, comes from chemicals released into the brain, rather than from an external source. As the mind becomes accustomed to the release of these chemicals, it searches out for continued sources of that high.
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"6) Being cautious not to develop any of the medical symptoms that may result from masturbation such as weak eyesight, weak nervous system, and/or back pain"
there is no medical proof of the claim from the molvi above! medically masturbation and having sex are exactly the same!

this mufti gave a fatwa, something that people will follow and included information that is not vaild, which voids the fatwa and sends the molvi back to madrissa to start learning again!
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Originally posted by moekalsoon moekalsoon wrote:



.........................according to the majority of ulamma these hadith are weak and thus can not be taken form........................
 
Well, thats a serious issue. Could you name a few of those from among majority of ulamma who say so and on what grouds.
 
Anyway there is difference between weak and mowdoo'.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ron Webb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 April 2009 at 7:48pm

Originally posted by abosait abosait wrote:

It has already been explained here on page #1. of this thread.

Yes, I read that six months ago.  I asked at that time what masturbation has to do with chastity and got no answer.

In the normal sense of the word (at least in English), "chastity" refers to refraining from sexual relationships with others, not to actions of individuals alone and in private.  The quotations offered from the Quran seem to support that.  Moreover, the potential risks of unchaste behaviour (pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, social disorder) do not apply to masturbation.

It seems to me that masturbation is a healthy alternative to preserve chastity, especially for young men (maybe women too) who do not have a legitimate sexual partner.  Where in the Quran or in the Hadith is it said that masturbation is unchaste?
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* Some of the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a narration reported
by Hasan bin Arfah that Nabi (Sallallaahu �layhi Wasallam) said, 'Seven
persons are such that Allah will not look at them on the Day of Qiyaamat nor
will He purify them nor will He include them among the learned and Allah
will enter them into Jahannam. They will enter Jahannam first except for
those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance.

1. A person who masturbates.
2. A person who performs the act of sodomy.
3. The person upon whom the act of sodomy is performed.
4. A perpetual drunkard.
5. The person who hits his parents so much that they appeal for help.
6. The person who harms his neighbours so much so that they curse him.
7. The person who commits adultery with his neighbour's wife. (Ibn Katheer
vol. 5 p. 458)

Hadhrat Anas (Radhiallaahu �nhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
�layhi Wasallam) said, 'The person who performs Nikah with his hands (i.e.
masturbates) is cursed. (Tafseer Mazhari vol. 12 p. 94)


according to the majority of ulammar these hadith are weak and thus can not be taken form. if it wasnt the case, and these hadith were sahih, then i doubt that great scholars like Al qradwai would not have known these hadith when they released their fatwa in the first post that i released. also i have concealed nothing, my words have not been included in any of the hadith as i know that the one who changes a hadith or quranic verse and claims that it is from allah and his messenger have a great punishment, so why would i put myself in such a situation, the words are there just as they are in the sahih bukhari books, so dont go around and claim that i am trying to conceal the truth. as allah is my witness i have not concealed anything that was in the soucre that i got the hadith from.

salams,

p.s brother i am not going to argue with you anymore, it is a waste of time and it is creating hate in my heart which i dont want, allah will judge between us on the day of judgement.

salams
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Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

 
And where does it say that it is sinful to do so?
 
It has already been explained here on page #1. of this thread. Here is a copy:
Originally posted by abudawud abudawud wrote:

Sharing with all bros.. .........
 

Masturbation is Haraam (unlawful).

This is the ruling of the four Madhaahibs viz. Maliki, Shaf�e, Hanafee and
one riwaayah (narration) from Imaam Hanbalee. They have drawn their
conclusions from the following proofs:

PROOFS FROM THE QUR�N
* Allah Ta�la says:
'And those who guard their private parts from their wives and those
(slave-girls) which their right-hands own - so there is no blame upon them.
Then whoever seeks beyond that (which is lawful), they are the
transgressors.

The intended meaning of these Aayat is clear. Allah Ta�la has praised the
believers for guarding their private parts from that which He has made
forbidden for them. Allah has permitted them to approach their wives and
slave-girls. Thereafter, these words of Allah Ta�la follow: 'Whoever seeks
beyond that which is lawful are oppressors who overstep from Halaal
(permitted) towards Haraam (prohibited).

Hafiz ibn Katheer (RA) writes Imaam Shaaf�e (RA) and those who have agreed
with him have concluded that masturbation is Haraam from this Aayat.' He
says: 'Masturbation is excluded from these two types which Allah has made
Halaal, viz. wives and slave-girls.

* Similarly, these Fuqahaa (Jurists) have drawn their conclusion from the
following Aayat:
'And those who do not find the means to marry should remain chaste until
Allah gives them resources by His grace.'

This Aayat shows masturbation to be Haraam because of two reasons: Firstly,
in this Aayat Allah Ta�la has given the command of chastity and, according
to the principles of Fiqh, a command (an imperative) denotes Wujoob
(incumbency, obligation). Hence to remain chaste is Waajib (compulsory) and
wherever chastity is Waajib it becomes Waajib to refrain from that which is
contrary to it, for example, adultery, fornication, and sodomy. This is due
to the fact that obligatory chastity will not materialise except by complete
refrainment from all that which is contrary to chastity.
Secondly: in this Aayat, Allah Ta�la has made chastity obligatory on those
who are unable to execute the command of Nikah. Here Allah Ta�la has not
determined any connection or link between marriage and chastity. Hence, this
demands that masturbation should be Haraam. And if assuming, it was
permissible, then Allah Ta�la would have mentioned it at this point because
this was the place of explanation. The silence maintaned by Allah Ta�la with
regard to it at a place which requires its explanation, denotes that
masturbation is Haraam.

Imaam Qurtubi (RA) has written in the Tafseer of this Aayat: 'And when Allah
Ta�la has not determined any order between Nikah and chastity, then this
shows that besides these two, everything else is Haraam. However, this
Hurmat (unlawfulness) does not include slave-girls because another command
of the Qur�n makes them Mubaah (permissible), viz.
'That which the right-hands earn (i.e. slave-girls).' Hence, in this manner
an addition of slave-girl has come. Masturbation, however still remains
Haraam.
'Those who seek beyond this (i.e. wives and slave-girls) are transgressors.'
(Ma�rij 31)

Under the Tafseer of this Aayat, Qaadhi Thanaullah Paani Patti writes:
'Imaam Baghawi has deduced from this Aayat that masturbation is Haraam.'

PROOFS FROM AHAADITH
* Similarly, the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a Hadith reported
by Abdullah bin Mas�od (Radhiallaahu �nhu) in Bukhari and Muslim. He reports
that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu �layhi Wasallam) said, 'O group of youth!
Whoever from among you can marry should do so because it keeps the gaze low
and it protects the private parts. And he who cannot marry should make it
compulsory upon himself to fast because it breaks lust.'
Nabi (Sallallaahu �layhi Wasallam) directed the person who is incapable of
bearing the burden on Nikah towards Sawm (fasting). If assuming,
masturbation was permissible, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu �layhi Wasallam) would
have mentioned it at this point. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu �layhi Wasallam)
however maintained silence. Hence, this indicates that masturbation is
Haraam because silence at the place of explanation gives the benefit of
restriction.

* Some of the Fuqahaa have drawn their conclusion from a narration reported
by Hasan bin Arfah that Nabi (Sallallaahu �layhi Wasallam) said, 'Seven
persons are such that Allah will not look at them on the Day of Qiyaamat nor
will He purify them nor will He include them among the learned and Allah
will enter them into Jahannam. They will enter Jahannam first except for
those who repent. As those who repent Allah will accept their repentance.

1. A person who masturbates.
2. A person who performs the act of sodomy.
3. The person upon whom the act of sodomy is performed.
4. A perpetual drunkard.
5. The person who hits his parents so much that they appeal for help.
6. The person who harms his neighbours so much so that they curse him.
7. The person who commits adultery with his neighbour's wife. (Ibn Katheer
vol. 5 p. 458)

Hadhrat Anas (Radhiallaahu �nhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
�layhi Wasallam) said, 'The person who performs Nikah with his hands (i.e.
masturbates) is cursed. (Tafseer Mazhari vol. 12 p. 94)

SAYINGS OF OUR PIOUS PREDECESSORS WITH REGARD TO MASTURBATION
* Sa�ed bin Jubayr (Radhiallaahu �nhu) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
�layhi Wasallam) said, 'Allah Ta�la will inflict a punishment on a group of
people because they played with their private parts.'
* Attaa (RA) says, 'Some people will be resurrected in such a condition that
their hands will be pregnant, I think they are those who masturbate.'

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

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Originally posted by abosait abosait wrote:

Originally posted by moekalsoon moekalsoon wrote:


.........., as long as it was not sinful to do so, but if it was sinful to do so, he would not approach it. ..................
 
Now you have come out with the Hadith in full. If you have read the highlighted portion, which you conveniently eleminated in your earlier Post you would not recomend the sinful act of masterbation to save oneself from fornication.
 
And where does it say that it is sinful to do so?
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