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Originally posted by JerryMyers JerryMyers wrote:

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

So you what you wanted to asume that Mu-hammad was more powerfull than Jesus.


Is that what this is all about ?? Jesus should be more powerful than Muhammad ?? This is not about which prophet is more powerful, this is about the highlighting the truth !!

By the way, Muslims do not make any distinction between prophets/messengers of God because God Almighty said – “The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination." – Quran 2:285

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Isaiah 44:3 For I will pour water on him who is thirsty, And floods on the dry ground; I will pour My Spirit on your descendants, And My blessing on your offspring;
Ezekiel 36:25-28 “Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. {26} “I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. {27} “I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. {28} “Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.
Joel 2:28-32 “And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall proph-esy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see vi-sions. {29} And also on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days. {30} “And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke. {31} The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Be-fore the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD. {32} And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the LORD Shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be de-liverance, As the LORD has said, Among the remnant whom the LORD calls.

Matthew 3:11-12 “I indeed baptize you with water unto repent-ance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. {12} “His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

Mark 1:6-8 Now John was clothed with camel’s hair and with a leather belt around his waist, and he ate locusts and wild honey. {7} And he preached, saying, “There comes One after me who is mightier than I, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to stoop down and loose. {8} “I in-deed baptized you with water, but He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.”

Mark 16:15-19 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature. {16} “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. {17} “And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; {18} “they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” {19} So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.
John 3:5-8 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. {6} “That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. {7} “Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ {8} “The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is eve-ryone who is born of the Spirit.”


Well, all the above verses only prove what I have been saying - that the Holy Spirit is God’s Energy which will reside in those who do the Will of God. How can one be said to have the Spirit of God if one does not do and submit to the Will of God ??

Interestingly, you quoted Mark 16:18 above which read, “they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover”. Since I would assume you have been baptized, I would like to see you drink a bottle of poison and let’s see whether it by no means hurt you or not. Or don’t you really have faith in what was written in your own scripture ??

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Was Muhammad by anyway batized in water or baptized by the holy spirit and fire? the answer is no because he didn't believe in baptism. Was Muhammad borned again?no.


Baptism is just a ceremonial practice. What is important is what that baptism symbolize or represent. Baptism, as practiced by Jesus and John the Baptist was the baptism of repentance – a practice in preparation towards the kingdom of God. It represents sincere repentance and the seeking of forgiveness from God Almighty. Christians today change that to a baptism of acceptance of Jesus as God and Saviour and by accepting this, they are cleansed of sin by ‘his death’ and thus saved – a belief which Jesus himself never preach. So, yes, Muhammad was not in baptism as he only believe in sincere repentance and seeking forgiveness only from God Almighty. Likewise, why do you think Jesus teach you to seek forgiveness from God Almighty in ‘the Lord’s Prayer’ IF, by baptizing as you understand it today, you are   already forgiven and cleansed of sin ?

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1 Corinthians 12
Gifts of the Holy Spirit
Brothers and sisters, I want you to know about the gifts of the Holy Spirit. 2 You know that at one time you were unbelievers. You were somehow drawn away to worship statues of gods that couldn’t even speak. 3 So I want you to know that no one who is speaking with the help of God’s Spirit says, “May Jesus be cursed.” And without the help of the Holy Spirit no one can say, “Jesus is Lord.”
Did Muhammad anytime said Jesus is Lord?no.
So where is the so called spitit truth now?


So, to your understanding, calling Jesus ‘Lord’ means the Spirit of Truth is in that someone ?? And this understanding is based on the teaching of Paul, not even Jesus. Who do you really follow – Jesus or Paul ??

Jesus was called ‘Lord’ because he was a rabbi – the Jews called their rabbis ‘Lord’, so are court judges, kings, landlords, etc – they are also called ‘Lord’.

If the Spirit of Truth is in those who called Jesus ‘Lord’, then, he would NOT have said, “Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven” – Matthew 7:21.
 
THERE IS A BIG DIFF BETWEEN LORD AND RABBI THEN A SIR AND A KING MUST ALSO BE EQUAL.
 
Let me give you some insite to your knowledge what does this meant?
 
Jesus said "Truly I tell you among those born of women there has not risen risen anyone greater than John the Baptist Matthew 11.John certainly did see himself as great he did not see himself as worthy enough to baptize Jesus.
 
This not a prophecy that meant their wil be a greater prophet after him like the muslim apoligist claim Muhammad to the greatest and last prophet.
 
One reasen that Jesus called John the greatest was that John held the honor of bieng chosen by God as the forerunner to the Messiah.
John's mission was to personally prepare the world for Christ's arrival.
 
John introduced Him to world as the Lamb of God who would take away the sin world.
 
Pardon was MUHAMMAD the forerunner to the Messiah answer no!
Muhammad did not take away ayone's sin he led them more in to sin as anything else.
 
So Muhammad's claims to be a so called Abrihamic religion is zero nothing just a waste of time.
The Jews was the children and family and great great grand children of  THEIR FATHER Abraham so they don't have lay claim by any means of who is who and Who is going to be the next Caliph. 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

THERE IS A BIG DIFF BETWEEN LORD AND RABBI THEN A SIR AND A KING MUST ALSO BE EQUAL.


You cannot really compare a King to a ‘Sir’ or a rabbi to a ‘Lord’ because ‘Sir’ and ‘Lord’ are respectful titles, while rabbis and kings are appointed personnel. A rabbi is an appointed Jewish religious leader/scholar who is addressed by the Jews as ‘Lord’, just as a King is an appointed monarchy head of a country and is also addressed by the people as ‘Lord’. God is also often addressed as ‘Lord’ being the only one Supreme Creator. Being addressed as ‘Lord’ don’t make a rabbi or a king or anyone the Supreme Creator too – which is often misunderstood by Christians.


Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Let me give you some insite to your knowledge what does this meant?


What insights can you give me when you cannot even differentiate a ‘Lord’ and a rabbi or a king and a ‘Sir’ ?? Anyway, let’s go through your ‘insights’ -

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Jesus said "Truly I tell you among those born of women there has not risen risen anyone greater than John the Baptist Matthew 11.John certainly did see himself as great he did not see himself as worthy enough to baptize Jesus.


Well, those are words of Jesus, not John the Baptist. Matthew 11:11 reads “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he”. So, how can you quote this verse and said “John certainly did see himself as great he did not see himself as worthy enough to baptize Jesus” when it was not even John the Baptist who said that ??

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

This not a prophecy that meant their wil be a greater prophet after him like the muslim apoligist claim Muhammad to the greatest and last prophet.


As I said before, Muslims do not make any distinction between prophets and as for Muhammad being the last prophet, that’s because he is, and so said Jesus when he spoke of ‘another Comforter’ after he’s gone. There’s no such thing as another Holy Spirit because there’s always only ONE Holy Spirit, BUT, there can be another Comforter, as like another prophet, and the only prophet after Jesus is Muhammad, who, like Jesus, only spoke what he hears.

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

One reasen that Jesus called John the great-est was that John held the honor of bieng chosen by God as the fore-runner to the Messiah.
John's mission was to personally prepare the world for Christ's arri-val.


Well, all prophets are chosen by God and all prophets are forerunners to the next prophet after them. So, what are you talking about ??


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John introduced Him to world as the Lamb of God who would take away the sin world.


So, what about ‘Lamb of God’? Christians normally understand the phrase ‘lamb of God’ as a reference of Jesus to be slaughtered (that is, to be sacrificed) as they like to think a lamb as an animal that get slaughtered and ended on our plates and they believed John the Baptist, in making this reference, was also indicating that Jesus will be sacrificed, of course, not to be eaten, but, to die for their sins. But, was John the Baptist making an analogy comparison of an act of ‘a slaughter of a lamb’ to the act of ‘sacrificing for mankind sin’ when he said “Behold, the lamb of God!” ?? Of course, NOT. Christians are so obsessed with Jesus ‘dying for their sin’ that they totally missed the other aspect of reference to a lamb. Fact is, a lamb is a subservient animal – that is, an animal which is always subservient to and guided by its herder. In other words, John the Baptist was using the analogy of a lamb (‘lamb of God’) to show to the people that Jesus is someone who is subservient, devoted in pleasing only God, that is, he’s subservient only to God Almighty, just like a lamb is subservient to its shepherd.

So, let me ask you this - why would you believe that Jesus preached about his death and resurrection when he had clearly said repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached (Luke 24:47) ??


Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Pardon was MUHAMMAD the forerunner to the Messiah answer no!
Muhammad did not take away ayone's sin he led them more in to sin as anything else.


Of course not, in fact, it’s the other way round – Jesus was the fore-runner to Muhammad and that’s why Jesus spoke of ANOTHER Comforter, that is, another prophet like him, who is Muhammad.

And no one can take away the sins of others except God Almighty. Not even Jesus can take away the sin of others. Perhaps you don’t understand your own Bible.

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

So Muhammad's claims to be a so called Abrihamic religion is zero nothing just a waste of time.
The Jews was the children and family and great great grand children of THEIR FATHER Abraham so they don't have lay claim by any means of who is who and Who is going to be the next Caliph.


In case you have forgotten, Ishmael was the first born son of Abraham, and the Arabs came from his lineage. So, yes, the God of Abraham is also the God of Muhammad and the Muslims. So, what's your problem ??
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Rabbis are never reffered to as lord, if they are give us proof. The only person called “Lord” in the Bible is God himself no one else, even the Quran doesn’t call anyone “Lord” except Allah whom you take as the “Lord” of Jesus. I absolutely have no idea where you get your interpretations from, first of all your definition of lamb of God as an obedient servant would mean that all the prophets should have been called lamb of God, but strangely only Jesus is. If you’ve ever opened a Bible you’d know that Jesus forgave people’s sins pretty much for most of his time being a preacher. Also what does Ishmael have to do with Muslims not all Muslims are Arabs, unless your willing to say Islam is an Arab religion, your comparison of trying to make it seem Isaac with Judaism and Ishmael with Islam is a false analogy. Jews are both a people and religion, Muslims aren’t, they come from many different backgrounds from Arabs, to Europeans, to Chinese. Also not all Arabs are from Ishmael even the ones that are from Ishmael doesn’t make them legitimate of the line of Abraham. Ishmael was a ****** born of Abraham’s concubine Hagar, he is not legitimate. And Incase you try to point to that verse in Genesis 16 where it says Sarah was given to Abraham to be his wife, the word used in Hebrew that is translated in English as “wife” is simply “woman”, also the marriage of Abraham to Hagar isn’t mentioned either.
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Originally posted by JerryMyers JerryMyers wrote:


How was Muhammad ‘not sinless’ ?? You are probably confused between a mistake and a sin. Prophets of God are strengthened by the Spirit of God, and thus, they did not and would not sin, that is, they did not and would not disobey any of God’s Command - that’s why they are prophets and we are not. But as humans, they could make mistakes. You think Jesus never made a mistake ?


Actually Allah has given a blanket amnesty to prophet Muhammad for all his past and future sins.

That Allah may forgive you your sins of the past and the future, and complete His Favour on you, and guide you on the Straight Path (Qur'an 48 2)
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Rabbis are never reffered to as lord, if they are give us proof. The only person called “Lord” in the Bible is God himself no one else, even the Quran doesn’t call anyone “Lord” except Allah whom you take as the “Lord” of Jesus.


Rabbi, translated from Hebrew, literally means ‘my master’. Jesus is a rabbi and thus, he’s often referred to either as ‘rabbi’ or ‘lord’ in the scripture. Jesus was never referred to ‘lord’ to mean he is God in the scripture, that reference is only by the Christians today.

And you are wrong if you think only Almighty God is called ‘Lord’ or ‘my Lord’ in the Bible. Here’s some of them -

Sarah called her husband, Abraham, ‘my lord’ - So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, “After I am worn out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?”’ – Genesis 18:12

Obadiah called prophet Elijah, ‘my lord’ – ‘As Obadiah was walking along, Elijah met him. Obadiah recognized him, bowed down to the ground, and said, “Is it really you, my lord Elijah?” – 1 Kings 18:7

Aaron called Moses. ‘my lord’ - “Do not be angry, my lord,” Aaron answered.” – Exodus 32:22

The son of Ahitub called King Saul, ‘my lord’ – ‘Saul said, “Listen now, son of Ahitub.” “Yes, my lord,” he answered.’ – 1 Samuel 22:12

Hannah called the priest, Eli, ‘my lord’ – ‘“Not so, my lord,” Hannah replied” – 1 Samuel 1:15


Originally posted by Al Masihi Al Masihi wrote:

I absolutely have no idea where you get your interpretations from,


I don’t blame you as I don’t think you have any idea about your own Bible too, other than just listening to what your church and scholars tell you.

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first of all your definition of lamb of God as an obedient servant would mean that all the prophets should have been called lamb of God, but strangely only Jesus is.


Maybe the question you should ask is – who else, other than John the Baptist, referred to Jesus as ‘lamb of God’ ??

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If you’ve ever opened a Bible you’d know that Jesus forgave people’s sins pretty much for most of his time being a preacher.


Why don’t you quote the verse(s) that said Jesus forgave other people’s sin and I will gladly explain to you what it really means.

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Also what does Ishmael have to do with Muslims not all Muslims are Arabs, unless your willing to say Islam is an Arab religion, your comparison of trying to make it seem Isaac with Judaism and Ishmael with Islam is a false analogy. Jews are both a people and religion, Muslims aren’t, they come from many different backgrounds from Arabs, to Europeans, to Chinese.


It’s not so much of whether Islam is an Arab religion, just as it’s not so much whether Christianity is an offshoot of the Jewish religion or Jesus is a Jew or Muhammad is an Arab - it’s about who Muhammad is. Muhammad came from the lineage of Ishmael, who is the firstborn son of Abraham and Hagar, an Arab/Egyptian descendant. See the connection between Muhammad and Abraham ?? Likewise, Jesus’ lineage can be traced from his earth father, Joseph’s lineage which can be traced right up to David to Isaac and to Abraham. So, can you see the connection between Jesus and Abraham ?? In other words, it’s not about religions, it’s about having the true relationship with the Almighty God and understanding His prophets.

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Also not all Arabs are from Ishmael even the ones that are from Ishmael doesn’t make them legitimate of the line of Abraham. Ishmael was a ****** born of Abraham’s concubine Hagar, he is not legitimate.


So now you are ‘more knowing’ than God Himself ?? Can you show me from your scripture where God said Ishmael was an illegitimate son of Abraham ?? In fact, God never made any distinction between Isaac and Ishmael – they are both honorable in His Eyes. I am beginning to doubt whether you have read and understand your own Bible.

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And Incase you try to point to that verse in Genesis 16 where it says Sarah was given to Abraham to be his wife, the word used in Hebrew that is translated in English as “wife” is simply “woman”, also the marriage of Abraham to Hagar isn’t mentioned either.


Well, the word in Hebrew means ‘woman, wife, female’. So, if you read Genesis 16:3, the Hebrew definition for ‘wife’ in both of the statements ‘Abram’s wife, Sarai’ and ‘gave her to her husband, Abram, as his wife’ is ‘woman, wife, female’ - http://biblehub.com/lexicon/genesis/16-3.htm

In fact, most, if not all, of today’s English-translated Bibles you have, interpreted that as ‘wife’, NOT ‘woman’. Only those who think they know better than God will interpret that Hebrew word as ‘woman’.
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Originally posted by JerryMyers JerryMyers wrote:

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

THERE IS A BIG DIFF BETWEEN LORD AND RABBI THEN A SIR AND A KING MUST ALSO BE EQUAL.


You cannot really compare a King to a ‘Sir’ or a rabbi to a ‘Lord’ because ‘Sir’ and ‘Lord’ are respectful titles, while rabbis and kings are appointed personnel. A rabbi is an appointed Jewish religious leader/scholar who is addressed by the Jews as ‘Lord’, just as a King is an appointed monarchy head of a country and is also addressed by the people as ‘Lord’. God is also often addressed as ‘Lord’ being the only one Supreme Creator. Being addressed as ‘Lord’ don’t make a rabbi or a king or anyone the Supreme Creator too – which is often misunderstood by Christians.


Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Let me give you some insite to your knowledge what does this meant?


What insights can you give me when you cannot even differentiate a ‘Lord’ and a rabbi or a king and a ‘Sir’ ?? Anyway, let’s go through your ‘insights’ -

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Jesus said "Truly I tell you among those born of women there has not risen risen anyone greater than John the Baptist Matthew 11.John certainly did see himself as great he did not see himself as worthy enough to baptize Jesus.


Well, those are words of Jesus, not John the Baptist. Matthew 11:11 reads “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he”. So, how can you quote this verse and said “John certainly did see himself as great he did not see himself as worthy enough to baptize Jesus” when it was not even John the Baptist who said that ??

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

This not a prophecy that meant their wil be a greater prophet after him like the muslim apoligist claim Muhammad to the greatest and last prophet.


As I said before, Muslims do not make any distinction between prophets and as for Muhammad being the last prophet, that’s because he is, and so said Jesus when he spoke of ‘another Comforter’ after he’s gone. There’s no such thing as another Holy Spirit because there’s always only ONE Holy Spirit, BUT, there can be another Comforter, as like another prophet, and the only prophet after Jesus is Muhammad, who, like Jesus, only spoke what he hears.

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

One reasen that Jesus called John the great-est was that John held the honor of bieng chosen by God as the fore-runner to the Messiah.
John's mission was to personally prepare the world for Christ's arri-val.


Well, all prophets are chosen by God and all prophets are forerunners to the next prophet after them. So, what are you talking about ??


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John introduced Him to world as the Lamb of God who would take away the sin world.


So, what about ‘Lamb of God’? Christians normally understand the phrase ‘lamb of God’ as a reference of Jesus to be slaughtered (that is, to be sacrificed) as they like to think a lamb as an animal that get slaughtered and ended on our plates and they believed John the Baptist, in making this reference, was also indicating that Jesus will be sacrificed, of course, not to be eaten, but, to die for their sins. But, was John the Baptist making an analogy comparison of an act of ‘a slaughter of a lamb’ to the act of ‘sacrificing for mankind sin’ when he said “Behold, the lamb of God!” ?? Of course, NOT. Christians are so obsessed with Jesus ‘dying for their sin’ that they totally missed the other aspect of reference to a lamb. Fact is, a lamb is a subservient animal – that is, an animal which is always subservient to and guided by its herder. In other words, John the Baptist was using the analogy of a lamb (‘lamb of God’) to show to the people that Jesus is someone who is subservient, devoted in pleasing only God, that is, he’s subservient only to God Almighty, just like a lamb is subservient to its shepherd.

So, let me ask you this - why would you believe that Jesus preached about his death and resurrection when he had clearly said repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached (Luke 24:47) ??


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Pardon was MUHAMMAD the forerunner to the Messiah answer no!
Muhammad did not take away ayone's sin he led them more in to sin as anything else.


Of course not, in fact, it’s the other way round – Jesus was the fore-runner to Muhammad and that’s why Jesus spoke of ANOTHER Comforter, that is, another prophet like him, who is Muhammad.

And no one can take away the sins of others except God Almighty. Not even Jesus can take away the sin of others. Perhaps you don’t understand your own Bible.

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

So Muhammad's claims to be a so called Abrihamic religion is zero nothing just a waste of time.
The Jews was the children and family and great great grand children of THEIR FATHER Abraham so they don't have lay claim by any means of who is who and Who is going to be the next Caliph.


In case you have forgotten, Ishmael was the first born son of Abraham, and the Arabs came from his lineage. So, yes, the God of Abraham is also the God of Muhammad and the Muslims. So, what's your problem ??
 
Galations 4

Tell me now, you who have become so enamored with the law: Have you paid close attention to that law? Abraham, remember, had two sons: one by the slave woman and one by the free woman. The son of the slave woman was born by human connivance; the son of the free woman was born by God’s promise. This illustrates the very thing we are dealing with now. The two births represent two ways of being in relationship with God. One is from Mount Sinai in Arabia. It corresponds with what is now going on in Jerusalem—a slave life, producing slaves as offspring. This is the way of Hagar. In contrast to that, there is an invisible Jerusalem, a free Jerusalem, and she is our mother—this is the way of Sarah.

Remember what Isaiah wrote:

Rejoice, barren woman who bears no children, shout and cry out, woman who has no birth pangs,Because the children of the barren woman now surpass the children of the chosen woman.

 

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Originally posted by JerryMyers JerryMyers wrote:

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

Originally posted by JerryMyers JerryMyers wrote:

Originally posted by Peace maker Peace maker wrote:

 
What do you meant by this?
 
So, no, Muhammad is not eternal or have a pre-existent life, BUT, he was the Comforter who God had sent to the world as promised by Jesus to his disciples.
 
Will he be with us forever?



What will be forever is not the person, BUT, the Spirit of God and the legacy and teaching of the said (another) Comforter, Muhammad, just as the true teachings of Jesus will be with us forever. Likewise, my dad passed away long ago, but he’s always be with me in spirit and in his sayings/guidance.
 
You do not understand what Jesus said the comforter is the spirit of truth who abide with us "forever"
can you see truth have anyone seen truth? define truth for me.
The Apostles of Jesus have received the spirit of truth on the day of pentecost, Did they received Muhammad?
The spirit of truth is the Holy spirit so do not be confused. 



Actually, you are the one who is confused. The Spirit of Truth IS a reference to a person whose own spirit have been strengthened by the Spirit of God. In 1 John 4:1, Jesus told his disciples to test all spirits to know whether they are from God or not. Was Jesus asking his disciples to test the Holy Spirit ?? No, he was asking his disciples to test those who came and claimed they are apostles/prophets or man of God. Why did Jesus issue this warning and who came, not long after Jesus’ departure and claimed he was an apostle/man of God ??

As for the day of Pentecost (Acts 2), that was NOT the fulfillment of Jesus' promise of the coming of the Comforter, but, the day of Pentecost was the fulfillment of the words spoken by prophet Joel (Acts 2:16), So, DO NOT BE CONFUSED.
 
Again you are confused cause you want to.
 
Muhammad was not the Holy Spirit or any sort of comforter.
 
Read and understand clearly.
 

John 14:16

Before His death, Jesus promised His disciples that He would not leave them as orphans. "And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever" (John 14:16). This "Comforter," Jesus said, would guide the disciples into "all truth" (16:13). The Greek word parakletos is rendered "Comforter"  "Helper" and "Counselor"  The term denotes the Helper or Counselor who is always there to give special care in times of need.  

But the Holy Spirit is more than a Comforter, Helper, and Counselor. The Spirit is also an Advocate and an Encourager. From this we can clearly see and understand that the Holy Spirit is the representative of the Son Jesus Christ, even as the Son was the representative of God the Father.

John 14:26

Muhammad was never send in Jesus's name or anybodies name.

The comforter the Holy spirit was send in Jesus's name.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

When Jesus said these things, these events had not yet transpired. The Comforter had not yet come. Although Jesus was Himself the great Comforter while He was on earth, the task of being the Comforter eternally was the role of the Holy Spirit. 

Jesus was a Comforter to the woman who had bled for twelve years. He said, "Daughter, be of good comfort for thy faith hath made thee whole and the woman was made whole from that hour" (Matthew 9:22). She said within herself, "If I may but touch His garment, I shall be whole" (verse 21). But Jesus explained that it was not His clothing that had healed her; rather, her faith in reaching out to the one Person who could heal her had allowed that healing to take place. Not only did she have faith, but she had also placed her faith in the right Person. At that moment, she was delivered from her bleeding and her pain.

In anyway there was and is no Prophecy of Muhammad in the old and the new testament.

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“Lord” in capitals refers to God, it’s different from “lord” as an earthly title, Thomas call him my “Lord,” not my “lord.”

Mark 2:1-12
When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.”

Oh so your going to explain what it means, you meant twist it to fit your interpretatio with no backing from any commentary.

Genesis 17:

As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him, and will make him fruitful and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation. “But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to you at this season next year.” When He finished talking with him, God went up from Abraham.

Abram didn't marry Hagar, as there’s no verse which says he actually married Hagar, Sarai demanded that Abram have a child with Hagar as a common solution to when a legal wife couldn’t have a child she’d let her husband sleep with her handmaiden.

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