Awrah of the Muslimah with other Sr’s.

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaykum

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Bismillah and Salaams,

So you banned me?  How uncool!!!  And kiddo, when you want to do a favor for someone, especially someone who you respect and care about their feelings and reactions to your actions, it is always a great idea to check and see how they feel about your favor first.

Because causing someone to disappear is sort of a bigbrother type of thing that doesn't seem cool or copacetic or filled with anything nice to me.  And being as the post I was unjustly and foolishly banned for was right here in this topic, it is relevant.

Salaams 

Sister caring for some1 does not mean not caring for rules any more regarding that person. It is clearly stated in the rules that scholar bashing is not allowed. In past few months rules were broken left, right and centre and something had to be done about it. Suspension was brought up so every1 is clear about how many chances have they got left. There is no favour specially for you, if the suspension does not require an open anouncement, we would not do that in future as well. I tried to explain why it was done for you, you making it open is your own choice and in future that choice is open to other suspended members too. 

The moderator team is told that once a fair discussion about any matter is finished among ourselves and decision is made. We dont need to explain the decision to any1 but i have chosen to explain it to have better relations with members not as a favour.

wassalam

rami wrote: Women Covering in Front of Other Women Answered by Shaykh Amjad Rasheed What is ruling of hijab if a woman is at a women�s gathering? I know it is permissible for her to remove her scarf, but how much of her body can she expose? If she is in the presence of trustworthy Muslim women, her nakedness is only between her navel and knees. As for what is above that, such as her chest, it is permissible for her to uncover it in front of them, as often happens with nursing women. As for if she is in the presence of: a non-Muslim woman, or a Muslim woman who is wicked through extramarital sexual intercourse (Ar. zina), or a Muslim woman who is wicked through lesbianism, then it is not permissible for her to expose any of her body except that which shows during work, this being: her head, neck, arms up to the upper arms, and legs up to the knees (Tuhfa, 7.194,200). However, it is better for her to cover herself [m: more than what is strictly required] because a non-Muslim or wicked woman might describe her to a man who is not permitted to look at her. Amjad Rasheed Amman, Jordan (Translated by Moustafa Elqabbany) The shaykhs in saudi often claim to be following the hanbali madhhab as Ibn Taymiyah was hanbali, Being Hanbali: A Muslim Woman's Awrah In Front of Non-Muslim Women for general prupose, The Fiqh of Covering One's Nakedness (Awra): A Detailed Explanation

As Salamu Alaikum

According to this fatwa I can socialise and move around trusted women with the upper part of my body showing, completely uncovered, as nakedness is between the navel and knee, and all I need is to trust the women I am with.

Common sense tells me something is wrong with this fatwa. So where is Haya and modesty? When mothers nurse their young only one breast is uncovered and many women either use a small hand towel or something to cover her breast.

Thanks brother Rami for this enlightening fatwa. Regarding this issue, I would definitely opt for a fatwa of a salafi scholar.

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala forgive us our shortcomings and protect us from our own whims and desires. Ameen!

Wa Alaikum Salam

As Salamu Alaikum  Brother Rami,

Alhamdulillah! We do agree on something.

I dont apretiate how quickly you moved from a ruling by the madhhabs to endorsing a so called salafi ruling, you could have simply said this particular shaykh must be wrong rather than all three madhhabs and thus further investigated the matter.

Brother the only reason why I used the term salafi was because this whole thread was about the extreme views of these scholars.

Personally I take Fatawa from any scholar who can prove his point using the Glorious Qur'an or Sunnah or other renowned scholars. I don�t follow any particular Madhhab.

Jazakallahu Khairan for the Nasiha brother.

Wa Alaikum Salam