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Sign*Reader 
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 Posted: 08 December 2007 at 3:44am |
 Tom123 wrote:
Angel wrote:
Israfil wrote:
Tom123 wrote:
What I find to be surprising and a bit sickening is that while this government arrested a woman and there was a big deal about whether naming a teddy bear Muhammad was a crime or not, they are at the same time committing genocide and war crimes in Darfur and the Sudanese governments' members have led a war in Southern Sudan where starvation, enslavement and mass murder were used as weapons to murder over 2 million people.
Isn't it a bit hypocritical of the mass murderers in Khartoum to be debating over whether a woman who called a teddy bear Muhammad is a criminal yet they themselves are responsible for some of the most horrific recent crimes against humanity? Shouldn't Muslims be also considering whether Khartoum's actions are not offensive to Islam's teachings?
Cristo Vive!
- Tomasz
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I 100% agree.
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Awww... thanks guys. 
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kind of surprized Tom and Israfil sharing the same banner and slogan! May be Tom has not investigated or informed about the instigators of this Sudanese civil war! The oil has destroyed lot of nations in the area so why should this be free of violence thanks to our capable cia. I know first hand the beginning of this going back thirty plus years, the us supported rebels didn't realize that it will drag this long and Khartoum will not buckle no matter how many people get killed. The black gold kills, religion or no religion! Who ever cared for the African folks getting killed anyways, remember Rwandan Tutsis!
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Chelle
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Posted: 08 December 2007 at 7:17am |
Sign*Reader wrote:
Are you a Muslim yourself?
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No, I am not. I don't currently belong to any church.
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Angela
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Posted: 08 December 2007 at 12:50pm |
Sign...
Mindful of the 'a' at the end of my name. Angel and Angela are two different people.
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Sign*Reader
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Posted: 08 December 2007 at 3:46pm |
Angela wrote:
Sign...
Mindful of the 'a' at the end of my name. Angel and Angela are two different people. |
Angela dear, ooops my typo, have dropped that "a" from the post. If you noticed the quote box does belong to Angel Now if an "a" can cause consternation imagine the thread itself! It is poignancy in serendipity, thanks so much!
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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.
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Angela
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Posted: 09 December 2007 at 12:44pm |
Spacebo bolshoii 
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Tom123
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Posted: 09 December 2007 at 3:06pm |
The war in Sudan started when Khartoum decided to occupy Southern Sudan. The rebels began fighting after their land was occupied by Arab armies and their land was being taken from them. Funny that you mention oil, that is the exact reason why Khartoum was ethnically cleansing the Southern Sudanese- to make way for drilling that would benefit the North. Khartoum is the instigator of the civil war in Sudan, as Putin is the instigator of the war in Chechnya and America is the instigator of the chaos in Iraq. Unfortunately few people care about the suffering of Africans- and this applies to Arabs as much as it applies to the West. Cristo Vive! - Tomasz
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Angel
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 6:43pm |
Sign*Reader wrote:
Angel wrote:
The teddy bear was named after a student not the prophet. As i said earlier many people have the name Muhammed, spelt in varies ways.
Student defends teacher jailed in Sudan
November 28, 2007 - 2:33PM
A 7-year-old Sudanese student today defended his British teacher accused of insulting Islam saying he had chosen to call a teddy bear Mohammad after his own name. |
Angel: You have copy n pasted quite a few news clips
Don't you think 54 year teacher should have more brains than this 7 years old student?
And in place like Sudan she has put this poor 7 years old on the hot seat! |
The parents of the child put him in the hot seat not the teacher. The parents urged the child to do the right thing and come forward.
| Do you know how much trouble he has bargained for a dumb teacher? He might get tarred and feathered by other kids in the neighborhood while the teacher is safely back home? |
The teacher is not dumb!
The principal knew about the activity and the parents knew about the activity and naming the teddy bear, notices where sent out to parents beforehand informing them of the activity if there was in objection it would have been then not after the fact.
The consenus is the naming had nothing to do with the prophet. I would think that the principal would have stepped in otherwise and mentioned something to the teacher.
Why is the teacher solely to blame for being ignorant, the principal didn't complain so why isn't she not being labelled as ignorant??
I read, and yet to confirm, that those who sent the teacher to jail realised they were in the wrong and themselves to jail.
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Chelle
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Posted: 10 December 2007 at 7:31pm |
Angel wrote:
I read, and yet to confirm, that those who sent the teacher to jail realised they were in the wrong and themselves to jail.
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Unfortunately, that was from a spoof site. It wasn't really true. They still think they were right.
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