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Greetings and peace to you, Hasan.  We will have to agree to disagree.  You believe the Bible to be full of untruths and I believe the Quran to be a work of fiction and deception. One of the chief differences between our beliefs is who you think Yeshua is.  He is not Isa of the Quran, though you consider such a one to be a prophet of allah.  We can only defend our individual beliefs based on the book we believe in and the character of the God we believe in.  There is only one God, Hasan, and I think you agree with that.  Christians, Jews and Muslims are in accord on that.  The difference is the way in which we approach Him.  Jesus said in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth and the life.  No man comes to the Father but by Me."  Three Person in One Godhead.  It is humanly impossible to explain because eternal matters beggar description and understanding by mere flesh.  So, you either believe Yeshua was speaking the truth about his being the way to the Father, or believe that He lied and was a megalomaniac.  That's your choice. Your Isa was just a man.  The Jew, Yeshua, was God the Son. 


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Originally posted by Muslim75 Muslim75 wrote:

This we know from the traditional Islamic knowledge.

Greetings Muslim75,

What makes 'traditional Islamic knowledge' correct?
Everybody tells their own story, their own way.
'Traditional Islamic knowledge' is merely what you personally believe in.  That does not necessarily make it correct.  It is correct to you because it is how you have been taught, but who can say what is truth?  Only the Creator above who sees and knows all can say and judge us on the correctness of what we have been taught to believe, or what we have come to believe, or what we have been led by the Spirit to believe.

"I know those which are mine"

asalaam and blessings,
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14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

19 There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.



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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever
"I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis
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Muslim75 wrote:
Kingskid,
 
We will not agree to disagree. Who do you think the Muslims are ?
 
Everyone knows about the Night Journey. Everyone knows about the holiness and the heavenliness of Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family). You have the responsibility to correct your beliefs.
 
As to your lies about Jesus, and Mary for that matter, the curse of Allah Almighty and the curses of all the inhabitants of the heavens is upon you, everytime you make that lie. This we know from the traditional Islamic knowledge.

Ah, Muslim75...my comments about agree to disagree were directed to Hasan/honeto .  If your name is also Hasan, there is no way I'd know it.  Who do I think Muslims are?  I think they are my brothers and sisters of the human race, created in the image of Almighty God and seek to know Him but have chosen a completely different path by following the Quran rather than the Bible, which preceded the Quran by hundreds of years.  Who do you think Christians are?  Surely militant Muslims such as yourself do not consider Christians to be your brothers and sisters.  If that is the case, such prejudice or hatred is a deep stain on your soul and does not honor God, Who created us all.

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knows about the holiness and heavenliness of Muhammad?  You are deluded.  Muslims may believe that because it is what they are taught from childhood.  Christians are not so indoctrinated.  Many of us may have had "church" upbringing, but did not become followers of Yeshua until the Holy Spirit touched us in some way at a foreordained time chosen by God.  To make a general statement, then, I offer this hypothesis:  that Muslims are Muslims by indoctrination, and Bible-believing, Jesus-following Christians (as distinguished from those Christians who may, out of habit or tradition, go to church but are not vocal or even able to defend their faith) are Christians by choice. 


Lies about Jesus and Mary??  I have spoken what has already been written about my Lord and Saviour, Yeshua HaMashiach, in the Holy Bible.  That you consider the Bible to have been corrupted and full of lies is simply part of the hate-inspired indoctrination you grew up under.  I feel for you because that path of hatred leads away from God, not towards Him.  As for Mary, I don't believe I have even mentioned her in any of my posts because even though the Holy Spirit overshadowed her to bring forth the Son of God, she is not efficacious at all in the atonement work of salvation.

You curse me, but I feel led to pray for you, brother, and I'm going to do that right now.......and may God open your eyes, touch your heart, and draw you close to Him and lead you into truth
and the way everlasting Yeshua said, "I am the way, the truth and the life.  No man comes to the Father but by Me."  John 14:6.


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