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Points: 4752 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 7:17am
Whisper, you have posted, probably some one else's material. That is all wrong. Ilyas Sattar is, as one of my friends who met him said that he is (I forgot the Urdu word he used, but meaning was "dsiturbed mind".) But we say that he is good man tries to indulge in religious debates.
 
Thatis neither here nor there, Munuteman, just post PROOF of your chap's Nabawat and I will talk with you. Till then no parleys. 
 
Now please note about that Hadith given by you, narrated by Hazrat Fatima
 
What hadith? Have you ever seen me in my entire career here to quote anything from the Quran or Hadith. STOP condusing the readers. Just PROOF of your chap's prophethood or no talk.
 
You and H300 are sheer fraudsters as long as you do not provide us exact proof of your Nabi's nabawat.


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Points: 4752 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 7:38am
Dear whisper u are again bringing in ur grand pa here. I have pretty clearly mentioned  the doubts i have about him. I live in this world and i know the type of people live around. I know the false propaganda that is being spread in the name of islam, in the name of being knowledgeable just to put down others or achieve ones own mission and most fall trap to it bcz of ignorance or bcz of love/attachment they have for the scholars as u have for ur grand pa but i'll not fall for it bcz it a serious issue and i cant just believe in anyones grand pa regarding such an important issue.and similarly its my request to all here not believe in stories as such. Im sure Allah will inquire  us of  where did we left our mind(intellect) when blindly accepting such a story.
 
Get off that high horse and stop dearing me.
I have no desire to be deared by the likes of you. I have plenty of people to dear me. In fact millions of them.
 
The fact is plain and simple. Don't try your smart ass techniques to confuse my point. THIS NABI OF YOURS WAS CALLED UP FOR A DUEL
- YES, BY MY DIRECT GRAND FATHER - AND THIS MAN DID NOT APPEAR FOR THE MUNAZARA TO DEFEND HIS OWN PROPHETHOOD.
 
Do you want witnesses to that effect? I would not be surprised to find some of our followers even living in Switzerland. They teach you a good lesson for being a rude idiot.
 
I am talking pure simple history. You may live in this world, Where the **** do you think we all live? Fraudster stop barking at us as if we are of your ilk.
 
You have been calling him Hazrat and anbi. PROVIDE ME PROOF OF YOUR ASSERTIONS OR WE WILL SHUT THE HELL OUT OF YOU.


Edited by Whisper - 27 September 2008 at 7:43am
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Points: 4752 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 7:52am
Dear whisper u are again bringing in ur grand pa here.
 
I will bring my grandfather 220 times here. He was far more respectable and learned than the fraud you are promoting asa nabi here.
 
Kunad hum jinse b'hum jins parwaaz
Kabootar b a kabootar - baaz b'baaz
- in short; birds of a feather flock together.
 
You don't like the mention of my grand father EXACTLY as much as your Prophet didn't like it! he never showed up and you don't even want his name mentioned.
 
Are you that afraid of the EXACT TRUTH?
That you are even scared about the mention of someone who played a relevant part in the HISTORY of your Fake Nabi?


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Points: 4752 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 7:58am
Shall I make you understand in Punjaubi?
Oye chore de puttar boriya bistar chook ke tay bhaj jaj. Jay Pathaan bhooter gaya tay pher ent koi na ho si.


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Points: 1642 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 8:01am
 There  is clear fraud here. That post regarding the age of Hazrat Eisa a.s. has been removed. In that Ilyas Sattar was discussing the age of the prophets. A Hadith was mentioned too from Hazrat Fatima about Jibreel a.s. visiting the prophet during Ramadhan.
 
 All that has disappeared from the forum. Who is doing that? And why it has been removed and now whisper is being clever that he never put up any Hadith. That sure is a great sign of the failure of the anti-Ahmadi group. Because I am being unduly attacked, I have to defend myself.
 I am sure they cannot tolerate the truth. That hadith was not put up by me. It was given in the post of whisper and now it has been removed. So how can any one discuss anything with the false and fraudulant people. I will look for the name of Ilyas Sattar in their posts and will not find it. It means it as been withdrawn.
 
 I am not supporting any Ahmadi here. But the opposite side is mighty afraid of things. I am sure they will not tolerate even a small bit of any truthful discussion. Whisper is denying having put up any Hadith. And asking me questions. Why? Why not tell me about that Hadith first which was shown here please. o.K. We will find out where that material is gone and why.
 And I have yet to see any reply about the grand pa of whisper. Did he see his grand pa? There is no reply.


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Points: 4752 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 9:50am
I have pretty clearly mentioned  the doubts i have about him.
 
Who cares what you think about or your doubts?
Who are you? anyway and also by the way.
As far as we are concerened you are trying to promote a fake nabi by just barking your assertions at us.
 
Proof? Hum proof mangta hay? Samjhay ya aur samjhaaoon?
Immediately before you bark anything else at us.
 
And Minuteman
Stop harrassing us with all your scholarly bull. Just provide us the proof of your man's prophet hood. Khalaas! Understand? or you wish me to make you understand Punjaubi style?


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Points: 215 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 10:11am
Originally posted by Whisper Whisper wrote:

I have pretty clearly mentioned  the doubts i have about him.
 
Who cares what you think about or your doubts?
Who are you? anyway and also by the way.


i can ask the same question, who is ur grand pa. is he a prophet of God or is it somewhere mentioned in quran that whenever ur grand pa says something just accept it with any question. so comeon plz be serious. u are just trying to create fuss and not answering my question that has been putup since the 1st post of this thread.

Plz and be respectful, u are surly not creating a good image of urself. im sure ur grandpa must have taught u some respect other than that story.

so plz answer my main question. im waiting


but if u dont have any answer then that automatically means that yes they're not harmful or insulting to islam in any way and so we should respect them and their prophet just as we respect other sects of islam, consider them a sect of islam and not a creation of Brit and let them do their business and leave the matter between them and God.

and im still reading and understanding about their prophets prophecy. the understanding just dont come in days so be patient. as soon as i reach any conclusion, i'll post but even if i dont, just dont badmouth them and leave in peace.

Thanks


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Points: 1642 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 September 2008 at 10:29am
 
 My mistake and apology to whisper. It was not his post but that of Seeks about Ilyas Sattar. I have found that post now. And the hadith too. i will post it here soon. My apology to whisper again and to all others. Nothing has been removed. All is well. But whisper seems to be quite hot.
 
 I was asking about his grand in good faith. But he did not trust me.
 
 Now for seeks, please see your post again about the matter of Ilyas Sattar and the Hadith narrated by Hazrat Fatima r.a. Do you believe that Hadith to be true? Let me know please.
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