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Where does the Quran confirm that the Holy Scriptures were changed?

We have the original Torah and the original Gospel.  Actually there are more inconsistencies in the Quran that can not be explained.  GOD for sure is not inconsistant nor incapable.

Your heart is closed to the fulfilled prophecies- that is the only true way to prove if a book is from GOD.  Otherwise all you have are the words of a man, no witnesses, although Paul did have witnesses.

You are correct in believeing that GOD does not have a wife, sister, brother.

Jesus as a manifestation of GOD does in fact have the One True United GOD, as His GOD.

 

Remember though that Jesus was 100% man and 100% GOD 

John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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You are correct in believeing that GOD does not have a wife, sister, brother.

Jesus as a manifestation of GOD does in fact have the One True United GOD, as His GOD.

Remember though that Jesus was 100% man and 100% GOD 

 Believer, you have the inconsistency in your words, Jesus 100% man and 100 % god. That is the most impossible thing that any one heard. In actual fact, you are all in trouble and you cannot explain the contradictions in bible without having Jesus as a man and son of man and common man and as a prophet too and as a god too.

 That is very funny. Just convince your self with some truth please.

 Now look what you have written above. God does not have wife, sister and brothers. As Jesus was a god, did he not have a mother? and sisters? and brothers? What would you say please? Jesus had the sisters and brothers.

 So how do we know when he was a God and when he was a common man and when he was a minister and when he was a prophet?? Was Jesus an ordinary man till the age of 25?? Was jesus a god when he was 5 years old. that would be child god??

 God has to be worshipped. Was Jesus ever worshipped as a god at any time. I know that never happened. Even his apostles never worshipped Jesus even one day.   ??????



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Where in the Quran does it say the Torah and Gospel were changed and altered?

minuteman- hypostatic union,  The divine nature of GOD attaches the human nature to Himself.  The divine nature of GOD wrapped in human flesh.

The human nature of Jesus did have a mother, and possibly a brother or 2.

minuteman - you really need to read the Gospels to understand.  Have you read the story about Jesus at the temple?

Luke 2

The Boy Jesus at the Temple

 41Every year his parents went to Jerusalem for the Feast of the Passover. 42When he was twelve years old, they went up to the Feast, according to the custom. 43After the Feast was over, while his parents were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it. 44Thinking he was in their company, they traveled on for a day. Then they began looking for him among their relatives and friends. 45When they did not find him, they went back to Jerusalem to look for him. 46After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions. 47Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his answers. 48When his parents saw him, they were astonished. His mother said to him, "Son, why have you treated us like this? Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you."

 49"Why were you searching for me?" he asked. "Didn't you know I had to be in my Father's house?" 50But they did not understand what he was saying to them.

 51Then he went down to Nazareth with them and was obedient to them. But his mother treasured all these things in her heart. 52And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.

LOL!  your own Quran says He spoke from the cradle.

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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

Where does the Quran confirm that the Holy Scriptures were changed?

We have the original Torah and the original Gospel.  Actually there are more inconsistencies in the Quran that can not be explained.  GOD for sure is not inconsistant nor incapable.

Your heart is closed to the fulfilled prophecies- that is the only true way to prove if a book is from GOD.  Otherwise all you have are the words of a man, no witnesses, although Paul did have witnesses.

You are correct in believeing that GOD does not have a wife, sister, brother.

Jesus as a manifestation of GOD does in fact have the One True United GOD, as His GOD.

 

Remember though that Jesus was 100% man and 100% GOD 

Hi believer,

let me ask you: Do you believe in logic, reasoning or truth? Because in all honesty you seem to deny those very principals needed to get to the truth. When things are shown to you, you say you agree and in next line you repeat your song of denayal again. I do not mean to offend you in any way and I respect your interest in learning if that is the case honestly, but I feel your purpose is to make fuss if you don't like what you hear.

You asked, "Where does the Quran confirm that the Holy Scriptures were changed?"

Before I answer that question, let me ask you, will you believe it than?

Hasan

The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

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Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

Where does the Quran confirm that the Holy Scriptures were changed?

We have the original Torah and the original Gospel.  Actually there are more inconsistencies in the Quran that can not be explained.  GOD for sure is not inconsistant nor incapable.

Your heart is closed to the fulfilled prophecies- that is the only true way to prove if a book is from GOD.  Otherwise all you have are the words of a man, no witnesses, although Paul did have witnesses.

You are correct in believeing that GOD does not have a wife, sister, brother.

Jesus as a manifestation of GOD does in fact have the One True United GOD, as His GOD.

 

Remember though that Jesus was 100% man and 100% GOD 

 
No, Jesus was a philosopher and a political activist, and then he got killed. That's it.
 
Everything else was nonsense by ignorant people who couldn't handle the fact their group leader is gone, no second return, even though they were expecting it within a short time. Nothing to show, but a book, a book that is not referenced. There are thousands of unreferenced books, they are mostly used for enjoyment, fiction.
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The Qur'an says it accepts the �the Book,� the word  �Bible� means the book

 
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Quran did acknowledge the Injeel sent to Jesus alaihissalam.
 
The Injeel that was not corrupted, the Injeel that has no contradictions, the Injeel that was not altered by men, the Injeel that was pure.
 
Can that pure book be found now?
Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Yes, the books of today-Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are the very same Gospel used by early Christians up to present time. 
 
Mohammad realized that these books were the True GOSPEL of Jesus.
 
How did Muslims fall away from this Gospel and start calling it corrupt?  Mohammad never did!!  Is it in hadith?
 
Every Muslim should understand this- are they being lied to by imams?
 
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