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Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

Gen. 1: 27 (Moses 2: 27) God created man in his own image.
Gen. 5: 1 God created man, in the likeness of God made he him.
Gen. 9: 6

in the image of God made he man.

Gen. 18: 33 Lord went his way, as soon as he had left communing.
Gen. 32: 30 I have seen God face to face.
Ex. 24: 10

they saw the God of Israel, there was under his feet.

Ex. 31: 18 (Deut. 9: 10) written with the finger of God.
Ex. 33: 11 Lord spake unto Moses face to face.
Ex. 33: 23

thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not.

Num. 12: 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth.
Matt. 3: 17 a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son.
Matt. 4: 4 every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Matt. 17: 5 a voice out of the cloud.
Luke 24: 39 for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
John 14: 9 he that hath seen me hath seen the Father.
Acts 7: 56 the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Rom. 8: 29 predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son.
2 Cor. 4: 4 Christ, who is the image of God.
Philip. 2: 6 who, being in the form of God.
Philip. 3: 21 our vile body . . . fashioned like unto his glorious body.
Col. 1: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God.
Heb. 1: 3 the express image of his person.
James 3: 9 men which are made after the similitude of God.
1 Jn. 3: 2 when he shall appear, we shall be like him.
Rev. 22: 4 they shall see his face.

 

 

Thank you very much for exposing the contradiction of the Bible.

 Are the robbers, rapists, infidels, terrorists, atheists, hypocrites etc the image of God? Do you mean that your god is a robber, rapist, infidel, terrorist, infidel, hypocrite, atheist etc?

Thank you for exposing the contradictions of the Bible:

Gen. 1: 27, 5:1, and 9:6 contradict Isaiah 46:9 etc that states  that none is like God.

 Once again thank you for exposing the contradictions of the Bible. Lets us compare your verses with the other verses of the Bible.

We find that 

Gen. 32:30 and Ex. 24: 10 etc  contradict the Biblical verses below:
John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time.

John 6:46
Not that any man hath seen the Father.

1 Timothy 1:17
Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.

1 Timothy 6:16
Whom no man hath seen nor can see.

1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time
Had Moses seen God face to face? "Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the desert and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. There The Angel Of The Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. So Moses thought, "I will go over and see this strange sight - why the bush does not burn up."

The Burning Bush "When The Lord saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, "Moses! Moses!"

"And Moses said, "Here I am."

"Do not come any closer," God said. "Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground." Then he said, "I am the God of your father, The God of Abraham, The God of Isaac and The God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God." (Exodus 3:1-6)

Quran 20:10

Behold, he saw a fire: So he said to his family, "Tarry ye; I perceive a fire; perhaps I can bring you some burning brand therefrom, or find some guidance at the fire."

Quran 20:11

But when he came to the fire, a voice was heard: "O Moses!

Quran 20:12

"Verily I am thy Lord! therefore (in My presence) put off thy shoes: thou art in the sacred valley Tuwa.

Quran 20:13

"I have chosen thee: listen, then, to the inspiration (sent to thee).

Quran 20:14

"Verily, I am Allah: There is no god but I: So serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.

CONCLUSION: The entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made laws and corruption!  "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.  (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!

God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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Originally posted by AnnieTwo AnnieTwo wrote:

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

Originally posted by AnnieTwo AnnieTwo wrote:

Originally posted by AbRah2006 AbRah2006 wrote:

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

No, you do not do the same thing.....

You start off by saying Let me prove you wrong and then you just cut and paste. 

Besides, you've proven you cannot understand simple concepts like allegory, poetic prose and historical commentary.

Yes I don't understand simple concepts like  1 + 1 + 1 = 1. What kind of biblical mathematics is this? All I know is One means 1 not 3 ! I wonder why there are some so-called educated people who force themselves to believe that 1 + 1 + 1 = 1

Even children will say that 1+ 1 + 1 = 3 !



AbRah, it is not 1+1+1=3; it is 1x1x1=1

I've never seen the 1x1x1=3 analogy....nice comeback.  I may not agree entirely with Trinitarian Doctrine, but I applaud the creative comeback. 



This is how it is explained, Angela, and it is not creative. You can find explanations all over the web for the logic in the mathmatics.  1+1+1=3 is the Mormon view and not the view of Orthodox Christianity.

Annie


 

My response: I have refuted your wild claims. Please visit http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4983& ;PN=1&TPN=6   if you want to know my answer!

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AbRah said:

"That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus? "

Inexcusable disrespect!  What a sad reference to our Holy Mother.  I know Muslims honor Mary too.....so why do you find this sick statement so funny, and why was it permitted to be posted in the first place?  I truly do not understand this double standard.

May God Bless Us All.

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Originally posted by Patty Patty wrote:

AbRah said:

"That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus? "

Inexcusable disrespect!  What a sad reference to our Holy Mother.  I know Muslims honor Mary too.....so why do you find this sick statement so funny, and why was it permitted to be posted in the first place?  I truly do not understand this double standard.

May God Bless Us All.

My response: I never said "That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus?"

It was George who said:"That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus?"

Hey Patty... you are so desperate that you slander me by claiming falsely that I wrote the nonsensical sentence! You are so pathetic for slandering me. So slanders are your method to kill my personality! Are slanders a part of Christianity? I think so since you show me how you slander me while condoning George!



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Patty,

From you: ["AbRah said:

"That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus? "]

There seems to be a little misunderstanding here. That was written by our good friend George, who was trying to engage AbRah into discussion and wrote it teasingly as a question.

No Muslim would write that kind of remark about dearest Mary.

Please check again. 

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Originally posted by bmzsp bmzsp wrote:

Patty,

From you: ["AbRah said:

"That God had sex with Mary and out popped a little god named Jesus? "]

There seems to be a little misunderstanding here. That was written by our good friend George, who was trying to engage AbRah into discussion and wrote it teasingly as a question.

No Muslim would write that kind of remark about dearest Mary.

Please check again. 

BMZ 

Thank you BMZ for your good deed........May Allah bless and guide and reward you and your families for your good deeds....Ameen.

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Actually Muslims themselves seem to be doing a great job at discrediting Islam?  What with suicide bombers, Taliban's behavior towards women not allowing them to be educated, have property or any basic rights.  I am dismayed that Muslims did not rise to the defence of Afgani women and girls.

Surely when Muslims find behavior that goes against human rights we should do something and at the very least consult our leaders or other world leaders how to turn the behavior around without war.

Judgement day passes in the moment we decide something needs attention & we take positive action. Then there will be a great sorting out of people into groups, Inspired by Surah 99 Ayat 1-8
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Originally posted by amlhabibi2000 amlhabibi2000 wrote:

 

 

Actually Muslims themselves seem to be doing a great job at discrediting Islam?  What with suicide bombers, Taliban's behavior towards women not allowing them to be educated, have property or any basic rights.  I am dismayed that Muslims did not rise to the defence of Afgani women and girls.

Surely when Muslims find behavior that goes against human rights we should do something and at the very least consult our leaders or other world leaders how to turn the behavior around without war.

 

I believe that most of your sources are the western media that is biased against Muslims and Islam. Its reports are biased and it will not publish any news that will bring postive effect to Muslims and Islam. If you really want to know what has happened to Afghanistan and its people I suggest you make a research that will include the roles of the US govt and USSR in Afghanistan that cause so much suffering to the Muslims in Afghanistan.

God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)
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