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    Posted: 23 May 2008 at 5:24pm
Hello,

I am in process to study the Islam and I bought Journey To Islam cd.
I have several questions related to some things related to Torah and its explanations in Qur'an.
Here are the questions:
1. According with God's commandments which were given to Jewish people during their history and at Sinai there are a series of religious festivals which should be respected, such as:
   a. Passover
   b. Rosh Hana
   c. Lag Ba'Omer
   d. Yom Kippur
   just to name few of them.
My question is:
- Since according with the Islamic theology the Qur'an is the confirmation of previous commandments and the corrections of certain errors occurred in other Holy Books why these religious festivals are not observed by Muslims?
  Same question apply for us as Christians, but from this point of view I already have the answer.

2. Since the Sabbath was clearly mentioned by GOD at Sinai to be respected by the children of Israel, why in the light of Islamic theology the Sabbath is not also respected?

I would greatly appreciate your answer on these questions.


Respectfully,
Alex
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welcome SilverArrow.

Actually answer to both of your question is same.
There is a Term in Islam called Deen:
Deen of God is same from Adam to Mohammed PBUH. Deen means the true religion of God, Belief in monotheism, not to associate another god with God, Belief in all the chosen Prophets, Scripture, Life after death, Doomsday etc.
There is another term in Islam is called Shariah.
Shariah means how to follow Deen of God.
It includes, religious rituals, praying, fasting, religious festivals, dietery laws etc.

Now, what we believe is that Deen is one and only from beginning till doomsday. But we believe that God can change shariah whenever we he wishes.

We believe that Israelites were chosen people of God. But that favour and choice was not eternal. When they persistently broke that covenant, tried to kill Messiah, God chose last of His Prophets from among Ishamelites.
Shariah of Israel is now abrogated, though it has many similarities with Islam, as per shariah Islam is enough for us.

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Abuzaid,

Many thanks for your explanations.
I was looking for someone to explain this since I am doing a comparative study between Islam and Judaism.

It seems to me Islam is much more broad and encompassing every aspect of life.

All the best,
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 All the best to you too. Smile
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Abuzaid,

One more question I have though:
- According with my reading and understanding of the Bible, specifically of the Torah it is said by GOD himself the following regarding the Covenant between GOD and Israel:
- My covenant I make with you is eternal

The questions will be:
1. What are the Biblical and Islamic proofs that this Covenant is now canceled?
  So far there are some proofs in Torah regarding the fact that GOD says:
  - It will came a day when I will make a new covenant with you, I will put my words and commandments in your hearts
     It seems Jesus was the one doing this. But he was not accepted as Messiah by them. It is important to point out that GOD says that HE will do another covenant with them, the Jewish people, not the other nations.

2. How you relate these Torah proofs and what Jesus did from Islamic perspective?
3. Could we go to that extent to assume that Islam is latest covenant which GOD made with all the people of the earth?
   Even though I must admit that I don't know any proof of this assumption.
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Originally posted by SilverArrow SilverArrow wrote:

Abuzaid,

One more question I have though:
- According with my reading and understanding of the Bible, specifically of the Torah it is said by GOD himself the following regarding the Covenant between GOD and Israel:
- My covenant I make with you is eternal

The questions will be:
1. What are the Biblical and Islamic proofs that this Covenant is now canceled?
 
 
I do not know about Biblical proofs, but I believe there is a verse in the Qur'an that mentions something like this. Perhaps I can find it. Btw, can u pl explain what do u mean by the 'Covenant' . . .which Covenant is it? Of the Promised land. . . or of another messenger. . .a lil confused abt that.
 
Here are a few verses that I managed to find in the Qur'an about the Children of Israel, and Allah's covenant to them:
 
In the opening verses of Surat Al-Baqarah (Chapter 2 of Qur'an), Allah invites the Children of Isra'eel to come back - to remember the favor and blessing He bestowed upon them - and to fulfill the promise that they would follow the Prophet when he was sent to them.
[O Children of Israel, remember My favor that I bestowed upon you and fulfill My covenant upon you that I will fulfill your convenant (from Me) and fear only Me.]
- Surah al-Baqarah 2/40

The favours Allah is referring to is saving them of their slavery to Pharoah, he saved them from sea, and drowned Fir'own and his army. Allah selected them to receive food from the sky. Allah sent them Prophet after Prophet from amongst themselves, and sent the Holy scriptures - the Towrah and the Injeel. Allah preferred them over all others at their time.
[ ...And that I preferred you over the worlds (i.e. people).] - Surah al-Baqarah 2/47
 
I think in some later verses, the Covenant Allah is referring to is sending Messengers to the Israelites. That Covenant Allah fulfilled for them . . .because he sent numerous Prophets to them whom they rejected including later Jesus and Muhammad. Chapter 5 of Qur'an:[We had already taken the covenant of the Children of Israel and had sent to them messengers. Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a group (of the Messengers) they denied and another party they killed.] - al Maa'idah 5/70
 
If Allah makes a Covenant with His people, He ALWAYS fulfills it. Even though we know that Allah knows that in the future his people may disobey Him. He says so Himself in the Qur'an, Chapter 4, verse 87:
[And who is more truthful than Allah in statement!] - al Nisaa' 4/87. Allah does not go back on His word.
 
There is also a verse in the Qur'an that talks of Allah's anger at the Children of Israel for repeated gross disobedience over centuries. In that verse Allah punishes the Israelites by saying that they will wander homeless over the land etc Which we could see until post-WW2 when the Jews had no homeland (even now, Israel isnt exactly recognized internationally) I will try to find that verse later, I remember reading it, but cannot find/remmeber the verse/chap number.
 
[And they were covered with humiliation and poverty and returned with anger from Allah (upon them). That was because they (repeatedly) disbelieved in the signs of Allah and killed the Prophets without right. That was because they disobeyed and were (habitually) transgressing.] -Chapter 2, Verse 61.

The above verse refers to the numerous Messengers the Israelites harrassed and killed. Including thier assassination attempts at both Jesus and Muhammad.

 
I hope that helps u in your comparitive study of Islam and Judaism. An interesting subject you took. Both religions share numerous similarities, and I am personally very curious/interested in learning about Judaism as well, given our long history togther.. . .
 
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Originally posted by SilverArrow SilverArrow wrote:

Hello,

I am in process to study the Islam and I bought Journey To Islam cd.
I have several questions related to some things related to Torah and its explanations in Qur'an.
Here are the questions:
1. According with God's commandments which were given to Jewish people during their history and at Sinai there are a series of religious festivals which should be respected, such as:
   a. Passover
   b. Rosh Hana
   c. Lag Ba'Omer
   d. Yom Kippur
   just to name few of them.
My question is:
- Since according with the Islamic theology the Qur'an is the confirmation of previous commandments and the corrections of certain errors occurred in other Holy Books why these religious festivals are not observed by Muslims?
  Same question apply for us as Christians, but from this point of view I already have the answer.

2. Since the Sabbath was clearly mentioned by GOD at Sinai to be respected by the children of Israel, why in the light of Islamic theology the Sabbath is not also respected?

I would greatly appreciate your answer on these questions.


Respectfully,
Alex
 
Jesus Christ did away with the need for rest on Saturady by his fufilling the law of Moses for Chrustians.
 
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Originally posted by SilverArrow SilverArrow wrote:

Hello,

1. According with God's commandments which were given to Jewish people during their history and at Sinai there are a series of religious festivals which should be respected, such as:
   a. Passover
   b. Rosh Hana
   c. Lag Ba'Omer
   d. Yom Kippur
   just to name few of them.
 why these religious festivals are not observed by Muslims?
   
 
Like I mentioned, I am vry curious abt Judaism. And until now I didnt even realise there were so many religous jewish events I had heard of and didnt knw abt. So I did a quick search , and I thought I'd share my Islamic viewpoint on them. (As to why we dont celebrate them)
 
Passover:
Islam essentially does not have a problem with the concept of Passover, since it is to celebrate the Jews exodus, somthing the muslims believe in and also consider Allah's blessing on Moses and his people. Perhaps because the rituals involved seem so far from religion, especially from an Islamic point of view.
  • For e.g: one of the Passover rituals is "Remove all traces of prohibited food, called chametz (any leavened products, including grains, bread, cereal, vinegar, cornstarch and alcohol). " Well, In Islam food is either prohibited or its not. And prohibited food should not be consumed EVEN on non-religous occasions. Plus, apart from Alcohol. . .there is needless prohibition of other foods, something Allah does not ordain.
  • "Conduct a final search for chametz(prohibited food) and store it in a remote, sealed-off part of the house. "Sell" the chametz to a non-Jewish friend to be redeemed after Passover. " - Again, why is the prohibited chametz being redeemed after sale to a non-jew?
  • All the rest of Passover rituals are just that - rituals.  In the Islamic essence, one celebrates a happy-occasion by making supplication, making charity, praying and thanking God. Not undertaking needless ritual after ritual.

However, I would like you to know that Muslims and Islam itself holds ALL Prophets in very high esteem, including Moses. Which is why the exodus is dear to us Muslims as well. And I would like to share an interesting piece of information . . .that we Muslims DO follow ONE of the Jewish rituals of Passover. Actually, we consider it a Muslim ritual, but the reason is ALSO because it was a sunnah of Prophet Moses (and we consider that Moses essentially taught Islam ) And that is, that we too Fast around the time of Passover (atleast, I think it coincides with Passover because both our reasons are basically the same, Moses' emancipation from Pharoah and the exodus) Jewish Male Firstborns are supposed to fast at Passover, while both Muslim males & female fast.           

I realised this whilst reading about Passover. It suddenly popped into my mind, when I read about the Jewish fast, that our Muharram fast is essentially due to the same reason! Smile I didnt know however that the Jews of this time ALSO continued the tradition. I was pretty excited at finding this bit. And that is, Muslims have a non-obligatory Fast on 9th/10th Muharram (Muslim Month). There is no compulsory date, and Muslims may fast either on the 9th & 10th or the 10th & 11th of Muharram. (They may fast for one, two or all three days. However I believe the Sunnah states any 2 consecutive days). Sunnah means that the Prophet also fasted on these days (Sunnah=action/recomendation of Prophet). This can be seen from the Prophet's example:
 
"It is the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to fast on the 9th and 10th of Muharram. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him used to fast on the day of `Ashura'. When he came to Madinah, he found out that the Jews of Madinah were also fasting on this day remembering Prophet Musa (peace and blessings be upon him). The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) admired this tradition and said to the Jews, "I am closer to Musa (Moses) than you are." He fasted and he also told his Companions to fast on this day. Later, before the end of his life, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) told Muslims to add the 9th day also. Thus, it is recommended to fast on both the 9th and 10th of Muharram."  -Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi, former President of the Islamic Society of North America.
 
In another Hadith, Imam At-Tirmidhi reported that Ibn `Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them both) used to say: We should fast on two days: the 9th and 10th of Muharram to distinguish ourselves from the Jewish community. (At-Tirmidhi)
 
The reason was basically because the Muslims were following the example of Prophet Moses, (like Prophet Muhammad instructed) , however they wanted to distinguish themselves from the Jews of the time since they did not agree with other Jewish Beliefs.
 
I'm definitley going to look up the other's later as well. And I'll try and post any interesting/relevant bits I find. This has piqued my curiosity.
 
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