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    Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:11pm
Ramadan Karim,
 
I am a Muslim and I've been taught that Muslims can not ask forgiveness in our prayers for Non-Muslims, but that we can pray that they are guided. A friend of mine who is new to islam asked me why and I don't have a good answer for her, nor can I find references in the Quran and Sunnah.
 
Why can't we ask forgiveness for non-Muslims, and what is permitted (i.e. if they are sick can we pray they are healed?)?
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    Asslamu Alikum Wa Rahmatu Allah

  Welcome to the IslaimCity Forum. I hope you get the full benefit.

   Before everything welcome to Islam. Sister you have to thank Allah with every breath, every morning and evening for Islam. Allah has guided to the truth and make it clear to you while it is invisible to many lost. Allah is Great.
  
  Sister .. I am not a knowledgeable person, but at least I can answer this question. Yeah we should not pray for the non-Muslims the forgiveness because in Quraan Allah ordered us not to do that.  We obey Him without asking why. Simply because He knows while we do not. Here is the Aya from Quraan Attaubah9:

 


Edited by Full of Hopes - 15 September 2009 at 12:52am
And whoever seeks a religion other than Isl�m, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers(3:85)
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Asalaam Alaikum Hanan,

This is why we have scholars! I have been listing to many lectures o my CDs and can truly say.  For instance:

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Question: Respected scholars, as-salamu `alaykum.

Please refer me to the Sunnah, the proper words, any du`aa', or anything else one should do when visiting a non-Muslim sick.


Jazakum Allahu khayran

 

Wa `alaykum as-salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.


In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.


All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.


Brother, we really appreciate your forwarding this question to us, and we commend your keenness on getting yourself well-acquainted with the teachings of Islam. May Allah help us all keep firm on the right path, amen!


When visiting a non-Muslim sick, a Muslim is permitted to make du`aa' for him or her the same way he makes du`aa' for a Muslim. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), who was sent as a mercy for all humankind, gave us prime example in visiting the sick from among non-Muslims and setting an ideal example for them and helping them find the true path.

In his response to your question, Sheikh Mohamed El-Moctar El-Shinqiti, director of the Islamic Center of South Plains, Lubbock, Texas, US, states,

Imam Al-Bukhari reports that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) used to say this du`aa' (Arabic for: supplication) for people who are sick, whether he was visiting the sick person or the person was brought to him.

Adh-hibi al-ba�sa, Rabba an-nas, ishfi wa anta ash-shafi, la shifaa� illa shifa�uka, shifa�an la yughadiru saqaman (Arabic for: Remove the affliction, O Lord of Humankind, and send down cure and healing, for no one can cure but You; so cure in such a way that no trace of illness is left).

The hadith does not distinguish between a Muslim and a non-Muslim. And since we know from other authentic hadiths that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) visited some non-Muslims who were sick (including a Jewish boy, as Al-Bukhari himself reports), we suppose he made the same du`aa' for them.

I don't understand why some Muslims want to have two moral systems: one for them and one for non-Muslims, and are willing to discriminate against non-Muslims even in praying for healing a sick human being, while the message of the holy Qur'an is universal, and the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was sent as (a mercy to humankind) (Al-Anbiyaa' 21:107).

 



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Dear scholars, As-Salamu `alaykum. I am a convert. I always come across the following questions from the new converts: Is it permissible for us to make du`a� (supplication) for our parents, family members and relatives who are non-Muslims? What can we pray for them? What can we not? Jazakum Allah khayran.

 

Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear brother in Islam, we congratulate you for reverting to Islam and commend you for your desire to know the Islamic teachings. We implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.

Islam certainly allows its adherents to pray for their non-Muslim relatives and friends who are still living. However, this is not the case for dead relatives and friends if we are certain that they died in disbelief. In case we are not sure about the faith they died in, we can make a general supplication for those who died in Islam and hence they will be included in our supplication.

Answering your questions,Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:

�We are certainly allowed to make du`a� for our non-Muslim relatives and friends who are living; we can pray for them for their health, wellbeing and guidance. But the most important prayer that we can do for them is to pray for their guidance to the path of Islam; we must do so on a continuous basis. Our prayer for guidance for them should be complemented by our earnest efforts to persuade them to embrace Islam through wisdom and beautiful preaching. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, �If a single person were to be guided to the right way through your efforts that would be better for you than owning the whole world as a treasure!�

As for our non-Muslim relatives or friends who have died, we are not allowed to pray for them if we know for a certain fact that they have died in disbelief:

Allah says, �It is not fitting for the Prophet and the believers to pray for the forgiveness of the polytheists, even though they may be near kin (to them) after it has become clear them that they are the people of Hell.� (At-Tawbah: 113)

Since, according to Islam, every person is responsible for the choice he has made in life, and he has chosen the path of disbelief, we are not to pray for his forgiveness. If, however, we are not sure what kind of faith they died in, then we are allowed to offer the following general prayer which includes all believers. If they had died in faith they would certainly be included in it; let Allah be the judge:

Allahumma ighfir li al-mu�minia wa al-mu�minat, al-ahya� minhum wa al-amwat: (O Allah, forgive all believers, males and females, those who are living and those who have died).

We may also pray in the manner of Prophet `Isa (Jesus�peace be upon him), who prayed to Allah concerning the Christians who associated him in the worship of Allah:

�If you punish them, they are Your slaves, and if You forgive them, You are the August, the Wise.� (Al-Ma�idah: 118)

Excerpted, with slight modifications, from: http://www.islamicinstitute.ca/

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503547224

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An excellent website for information is:
Islamomline.net

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  Asslamu Alikum
 Sister Hayfa, Thanks a lot for this information but I hope you do not judge me or misunderstand me. I did not say anything about praying for the sick because simply I know nothing about it not because I feel they do not deserve it or I have no mercy on non-Muslims. I am happy that Allah knows what is in my heart for them. I wish the whole world is Muslim. And many non-Muslims are VERY good and even doing great deeds many Muslims failed to do.
 And the other part about forgiveness I answered because I studied it before.
 
   I am OK with non-Muslims if they respect my believes and Allah. But when they dare to deny Allah or say something wrong about Islam or Muslims, forgive me sister it is out of my control I ca not keep silent.  I must at least educate them and show them my proofs.

  


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Salams Hayfa,JazakAllah Kheiran for the link very good info.
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Asalaam Alaikum Full of Hopes,

I pray you are having a good day.
My posts had nothing to do with you. Really. I was answering the person's questions. They asked about if they are sick or not, etc. They asked about the differences in people.

Its great you want to help educate people. AND we all need to remember we are not scholars.  That is all.  And if you read the Ayas they talk about people who have intentionally acted in a certain way- as enemies. So you must SHOW  or KNOW that. Just because a person is not a Muslim does not at all make them in this category.  You even wrote this yourself.  What I wrote was nothing to do with what you wrote. I was answering the question.

Most people here in the US, actually DO believe in God or a Higher Power. Most people do not act against Islam. They go to work, go home, take care of their kids and go to bed. For instance. When I became a Muslim, my mom who was Catholic gave me 100% support when I told her I had become a Muslim. Some people here are disowned by their families. Others are treated horribly.

One of the benefits of being on this board is we can all learn from each other. If someone posts another perspective or adding on, its most likely nothing to do with you personally. Smile

One thing, having lived and grew up in te US is that there is a whole separate Fiqh for Muslims living in nonMuslim lands.  Have you ever heard of Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah? He is on the Fiqh Councils (or was) for both Europe and Saudi Arabia. He came and did a whole series on this.  Islam is so vast and amazing.

And also, if you lived here.. you would see that it is not always obvious what it  what. I can honestly say when I was about 18 years old, (awhile ago) that I did not believe in "God." mY childhood was very, very difficult. And the logic of a young person is why would so much bad happen if "God was good." And if Jesus was God why are not things better if he had come to "save us."  I was VERY anti-religion. I came to believe in  a "Higher Power" many, many years later. It had nothing to do with Islam. Islam, religion were the furthest things from my thoughts. Interestingly, my parents and others who were religious, never gave up.  My parents may very well have prayed for me.

I am glad you are on this Board. And if someone posts something that is a bit different, just take it as information and most likely hs NOTHING To do with you as a person.

Take care

Hayfa




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