the word maolud nabiy

ridwanullah wrote: some moslims proclaimed that maolud nabiy is bidyatul hasan,is it true my brothers in islam?

We are Muslims not moslims and the maolid naby you mean is birth of the Prophet, correct? which is a fact so how is that bidyatul hasan meaning good innovation?

BTW if you are talking about celebration of Prophet's birthday then it is debatable amongst different schools of thought...I don't think the Ahle hadith folks do it!
Then people who do celebrate it use lunar calender which is unscientific for birthday time frame cuz in roughly 18 years the day for someone born in spring time will be celebrated in winter, sounds crazy doesn't it?...That we tell the Christians all the time about Xmas that he was born when dates got ripe So 25th December is a conjecture or rather misappropriation of Roman Winter Solstice!
Now I read Prophet(s) birth date mentioned in "The Sealed Nectar" the prophet's biography to be April 20th 571 CE/12th Rabiawwal with no Islamic calender yet which was springtime! The islamic calender got established by Caliph Umar(r) around 638 almost 7 years after the death of Prophet!
So now do we use Islamic calender that cycles through the seasons or the one gives the same time frame! The birth time frame doesn't repeat in Islamic system. The answer is obvious! It creates  an issue may be you shouldn't  celebrate the birth days using a impractical system or go to the system that gives the proper time frame... Take a pick...

Now don't confuse this with rituals of month of Fasting and Hajj please! They have to be by Lunar system and not Solar system! Anyone needs understanding of this miraculous secret can PM me to find the answer!

No one celebrates the birth days theirs or the kids using lunar calender that I know!
Do you know any?



Edited by Sign*Reader - 01 March 2010 at 9:39pm

Doing what we've been commanded to is a struggle, so whats up with bida hasan or unhasan.

ridwanullah wrote: reply to the question asked by ummfatimah."Do you know why ALLAH used lunar month", summarily,ALLAH{S.W.A}recognised lunar month only.Q9VS35 "ALLAH{s.w.a}ordained the months twelve in number when HE created the heaven and the earth".... THE PURPOSE OF LUNAR MOHTH ALLAH{s.w.a}the omnipotent knew what fit,match or suitable the world, HE ordained or prescribed the lunar month as our basis of doing things. ALLAH attached some ibaadah to it,like fasting in the month of ramadan,hajj in zul qadah and zul hijjah,shaban for budget of mankind as stated by prophet muhammed {s.a.w}

Duh! What you stated is known information!

You still haven't come up with the critical wisdom of fasting in a lunar Ramadan and not solar Ramadan! 


Edited by Sign*Reader - 03 March 2010 at 6:17pm

Saladin wrote: Doing what we've been commanded to is a struggle, so whats up with bida hasan or unhasan.

I whole heatedly agree with you brother about the struggle part! Tha is hard work!
The Muslim have been too averse too long characteristically to do what their messenger commanded them but they are  into the birth day celebrations party particularly in the subcontinent!
On the bida part: The controversy is between the Salafees and non Salafees!
 A Salafee won't do it, Period! The Non salafee says it a good innovation(bida hasan)!
IMHO the celebration of the Prophet(s) must not only be on the 12th of Rabi` al-Awwal(BTW how many people know the lunar calender by heart and  run their lives by it?) but should be on each and every day by being a good living model of the prophet's teaching! Action speaks louder than words...
If you look at the state of affairs of Muslim societies in general and and their leadership in particular... most are occupied territories of the neo colonials with rampant chaos, lawlessness and misery all around.
What I have seen here on the west coast the good Nat khawans who come from Pakistan on yearly basis in the season are from the Shia background, any wonder the Salafees are so wary about it! Enough of my rant on this I guess!


Edited by Sign*Reader - 04 March 2010 at 6:51pm