Nonmuslim praying over food.

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   Assalaamoalaikum. If I am at a seminar or at a friend's house, and someone prays for a polythesist god to bless the food, and at the same time I quietly ask Allah (SWT) to bless the food and  say to HIM that I do not associate partners with HIM, does that mean that I can still eat the food? Can you give me more examples if this is correct? If this is correct then would I have to do this as well to people who say they are five percenter muslims or people who belong to the Nation of Islam even though they will use they use the word Allah (SWT) for God? 

Edited by lady - 28 May 2011 at 5:43pm

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lady Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2006 Status: Offline Points: 314	Post Options Post Reply Quote lady Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Nonmuslim praying over food. Posted: 28 May 2011 at 5:41pm
	Assalaamoalaikum. If I am at a seminar or at a friend's house, and someone prays for a polythesist god to bless the food, and at the same time I quietly ask Allah (SWT) to bless the food and say to HIM that I do not associate partners with HIM, does that mean that I can still eat the food? Can you give me more examples if this is correct? If this is correct then would I have to do this as well to people who say they are five percenter muslims or people who belong to the Nation of Islam even though they will use they use the word Allah (SWT) for God? Edited by lady - 28 May 2011 at 5:43pm

islamispeace Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 01 November 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2187	Post Options Post Reply Quote islamispeace Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 2011 at 10:54am
	Walaikum as-salaam. If the person openly utters the name of another deity, then it is not permissible to eat that food since the Quran states that any food over which the name of another deity other than Allah (swt) is mentioned is haraam. According to IslamQA, if there is no obvious evidence that the food is haraam, then you can eat it. But, if there is evidence, then it is haraam. In this case, if someone openly prays to a polytheistic god, then you cannot eat that food. See the following for more: http://islamqa.com/en/ref/128632
	Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

lady Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2006 Status: Offline Points: 314	Post Options Post Reply Quote lady Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 2011 at 3:29pm
	I called my Imam yesterday and asked him this question. And he said that it was permissible to eat the food. Thank you for your reply.

honeto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 20 March 2008 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 2487	Post Options Post Reply Quote honeto Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 June 2011 at 4:32pm
	Salam, I agree with Islamispeace, Quran is very clear on this issue and there is no need to look any further. There are things Allah have made clear for us and with the following verse from the Quran it is obvious and clear. Remember, the Quran also tell us to not to go over and over something that is made clear once. Here is the Quran on this issue: 5:3 (Y. Ali) Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah. that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. Hasan Edited by honeto - 15 June 2011 at 4:37pm
	The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

lady Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2006 Status: Offline Points: 314	Post Options Post Reply Quote lady Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 June 2011 at 6:51pm
	Salaams. I will ask my Imam why did he say that it was permissible. I somehow forget to ask him that part. I even gave him this same scenario, and he said that it was permissible.

lady Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2006 Status: Offline Points: 314	Post Options Post Reply Quote lady Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2011 at 4:27am
	Is permissible because you are praying over YOUR own food, and if someone prays outloud over the food then they are praying over their food. If I say in my heart as this person is praying, that "Allah I associate no partners with YOU, and I am aware that YOU are the ONE GOD. Then It is permissible to eat because Your food has nothing to do with that person's food. And also you have declared to Allah (SWT) that you do not agree with the prayer. For example, it is the same as if someone prays outloud, "Oh Lord, we know that you sent us down Jesus, (AS) to worhip him, and to believe that he is god." This prayer if said outloud does not affect what you believe in your heart. So does that mean that when the person says WE that you will be held accountable for her statement, and that you following what she said because she made the prayer out loud? NO, so the food will be permissible.

semar Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Male Islam Joined: 11 March 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1830	Post Options Post Reply Quote semar Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2011 at 5:01pm
	Salam, In humble my opinion we need to refer to this hadith: As Abu Huraira related: The Prophet said, "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded." (Bukhari book 2 #38) The only haram food is: blood, swine, carrion, alcohol and meat of animal that slaughter for other than Allah. So you can pray for your own food. Per the hadith don't make it complicated. Becasue sometime wae are too bussy to think about small and in grey area we miss the big and very clear thing such as corruption, abuse, working hard, honesty, etc. Perhaps this that make we muslim behind.
	Salam/Peace, Semar "We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) "1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"

Hayfa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Female Joined: 07 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2368	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hayfa Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 June 2011 at 9:49pm
	Jazakallah Lady...
	When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi