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    Posted: 20 February 2006 at 6:27am
This is eminently sensible. The dole was created for those who cannot work because of disabilities or some other legitimate impediment, not for those who refuse to accept the mores of the society in which theyhave chosen to live.

Women in burkas face benefit cuts

By Anthony Browne, Brussels Correspondent, The Times
A DUTCH city is to cut benefits for unemployed Muslim women whose refusal to take off their burkas stops them getting jobs.

Utrecht City Council voted for the measure the day after the Dutch Government announced plans to ban women wearing the burka in some public places as a security measure, and on the same day that Maria van der Hoeven, the Education Minister, urged a ban on burkas in schools.


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The burka, a traditional women�s dress in some Muslim societies, covers the entire body except the eyes. The sanctions also apply to women wearing a face-concealing veil, or niqab.

Utrecht made the decision after two Muslim women receiving �550 (�380) a month in unemployment benefits told the jobcentre that they did not attend job interviews because no one would employ them because of their burkas, which they refused to remove.

A spokesman for the city said that the problem was not widespread, but added: �It is a point of principle which applies to all women who refuse to remove their burkas for job interviews. People get benefits when they are out of work but there is also an obligation to do everything to get a job. These women were educated, spoke good Dutch and had opportunities in the labour market.� The city will cut the women�s benefits by 10 per cent a month if they continue to refuse to take off their burkas for job interviews.

Utrecht based its decision on the Work and Social Security Act, which states that somebody receiving welfare must not do anything to prevent getting work. The city also noted that the Equality Commission, an official anti-discrimination body, backed employers who refused to give jobs to people wearing burkas, because being able to see someone�s face was an essential part of many jobs.

Rita Verdonk, the Minister for Integration and Immigration Minister, said that wearing the burka should be banned where it is a threat to security because it could be used by terrorists for concealment. She announced an investigation into when and where the burka should be banned, and will give details in two months.


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If there is a legitimate job, take it!  No one is entitled to the peoples money because they refuse to work!  And it is other peoples money they are getting from the government. 
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Rezz,

This really is a very ominous development. This has nothing to do with getting a job or not getting a job and everything to do with compelling uniformity, or volunteer for accepting discrimination. This should be resisted by everyone. If this development spreads it would be a 'green light' to ghettoise anyone who dose not 'fit in' with what the authority says. It is the beginnings of fascism. Again! It shows the extent of the economic crisis which underpins all these provocations and communal conflict. "If they come for you in the morning they will come for us in the night".

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Whats next? concentration camps?
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I watched a tv show earlier this month where in Saudi there were a bunch of women in a venetian blind factory wearing niqab.  There are man jobs women can do that don't require their face to be seen.  I'm a receptionist, that would not be a job for a niqab wearing Muslimah, but my contract manager never leaves her office and deals with people via fax and phone.  Rarely do they see her.  Why couldn't a niqab wearing Muslimah get a job like that??????

One word:  Discrimination.

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Bismillah,

There's a social stigma against camps, so it has to be everything but camps.

Thanks again for your deep understanding of the situation and concern for the human beings involved, Sister Angela!

there is also an obligation to do everything to get a job.

Many of us have moral  limitations on what we would do to get a job, and guidelines to help us in choosing our paths in life,  Al-Hamdulilah!

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim Evans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 February 2006 at 10:12am

They already have concentration camps all over the USA, full to bursting with African Americans. The prisons in Britain are bursting with poor illiterate, mostly young unemployed, men, a disproportionate number are black and 'Asian'.  The same in France.

This latest development should alert everyone!

 

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Bismillah,

Tim, what are you talking about please?  I really need you to elaborate because I don't get the connection between criminals being in jail -- although many people shouldn't be there for simple, poverty-based monetary crimesor personal drug use in my opinion -- and people who are simply different being put in concentration camps as the Japanese were in America?

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