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    Posted: 15 April 2006 at 10:15am

Observation:  Some Christians at times seem quick to deride every absurd doctrine that they cannot claim as their own or as having originated with them.  I close with a select reading from the troubled Tertullian: 

 

 ��credibile est, quia ineptum est��

 

[�� because it is absurd, it is to be believed ��]

 

 

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Thanks Serv.  I needed the laugh.
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***You simply do not get it.  What you are doing to Angela is nothing short of harassing and stalking her. ***



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The reference you deleted was a response to what Servetus posted from Tertullian.  Are quotes from the Church Father's now harrassment posts? If Tertullian can be quoted to mock Christians, then surely Ignatius of Antioch can be quoted to counter that!  Or, do you allow Christians to be mocked here continuously, and then when they defend Christianity, resort to your tyrannical "deletions" and bannings, etc.  ?

If only heretical opinions regarding Christianity are allowed here (and Tertullian was heretical in many ways) then come out clearly and post that rule.  But don't make a pretense of being even-handed, SK, because you are not.

 



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Athan,

Go away, Serv was just posting something to make me laugh.  Or is not having a sense of humor now a requirement to be a Christian?

Leave me alone.  You didn't need to post here.  It was a comment from one board member to another that did not need your opinion.

Romans Chapter 12:9-21
9: Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10: Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; 11: Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; 12: Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; 13: Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.
14: Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15: Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16: Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
17: Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18: If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19: Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20: Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21: Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

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I was responding to Servetus, not to you. 

Also, who are you to tell me to "go away?"  Are you a monitor now?

Furthermore, I don't consider the mocking of the Christian faith to be a laughing matter, as you obviously do. 



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Bull,

You're harassing me and using Serv as an excuse.  I'm doing what I have to legally to tell you to leave me alone.  Harassment is a crime you know. Mr. Carey.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Servetus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 April 2006 at 4:39pm

�If Tertullian can be quoted to mock Christians, then surely Ignatius of Antioch can be quoted to counter that!�

 

Dear Athanasius,

 

It�s too bad that I couldn�t hear the rejoinder; I do empathize  with your plight.

 

At any rate, and in case this is Judgement Day, I shall hereby mount my defense.  Tertullian was not in this case quoted to mock Christians.  I quoted Tertullian (to Angela) not least as proof that a pugnacious Church Father, identified in my above post as �troubled� exactly because of his little foray into Montanism, himself recognized that one of his chief contentions, that Christ had been resurrected, was absurd.  He then employed that absurdity to his polemical advantage.  Just exactly because it was absurd, it was therefore to Tertullian believable.  He had a fantastic sense of paradox, as I see it, and employed it well in this dialogue.  I am, at times, quite a fan of his, actually (although more so of Origen), and do wish that I had paid a bit more attention in Latin so that I could read him in the original.

 

As for mocking �Christians,� in that massively generalizing sense of the word, well, were I to do that, I would have both Hell and my mom to pay, now wouldn�t I?

 

Continuing here with the post-card theme:  �having a heck of a time, oh dear, glad you are here.�

 

Regards,

 

Serv

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