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    Posted: 28 July 2006 at 12:27am
Dear All,

I debate with my friends over the translation of this ayah, 79:30.
I always use Islamicity source when it comes to Quranic Verses, and the translation is as follow:

79:30 And after that, the earth: wide has He spread its expanse,

Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Creation] [Earth:spread out] [Signs in creation]

Waalarda baAAda thalika dahaha
وَالْأَر 18;ضَ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ دَحَاهَا
My Friends insisted that the ayah should be translated as:

"God made the earth egg-shaped"

Since the new meaning is very different than the translation I've got from this site. I get confused. I don't speak Arabic and the friends said that Dahaha comes from a root word that means  "Egg-shaped".
I am sure many of people here come from Arabic countries or very fluent in Arabic, so I really need the help to overcome my confusion.
If the translation of my friends is correct, then I think Islamicity needs to change the verse's translation.

Please help me.

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Salam

The world is rather eggish shaped.

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Dear Anne Marie,

So, it means that the translation "extended" is wrong then

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Lamp Lighter Salam

I cannot really say that because I do not speak arabic.

However I do recall Dr. Badawi saying that when we finally got to see Earth from space they determined it was not completely round but oblongish eggish shape.

Translation I have learned is a challenge as even in english many words can have different meanings and be used in a variety of ways and I am assuming arabic may be the same.

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Hi Lamp Lighter,

There is no talk of egg-shape or oval-shape or or a pear-shape in the verse 79:30.

What it means is that God made the Earth so vast by spreading out that even being a sphere, it has such a vast surafce area that can accomodate oceans, rivers, mountains, water, vegetation, landscape, beauty, etc.

Dahaha means here, stretched or spread.

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If I may speak briefly...There are several opinions regarding this issue. One "Earth" as it is implied from a "gencentric" position is an expanse and perhaps it is talking about the land itself not the Earth as a planet. as brother BMZP noted...which I overlooked just now LOL
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Originally posted by Israfil Israfil wrote:

"Earth" as it is implied from a "gencentric" position ...



So the other position is "egg-centric"? 
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Israfil & David,

 

If the earth were really egg-shaped the wobbling might have been real bad.
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