Answering Josh on Prophet’s marriage

Josh 87, you did not read a word of what has been said above. Had you done so, my tone would have been different.

josh87 wrote: why do you accept the propet's actions just because he said he was told to do so?

We accept the prophet for what he says, because it is a binding on every Muslim to accept what he has to tell us. This is the part of our faith. The Quran orders the muslims to take what the Propeht has to give them! - you dont like it, you are free not to!!

josh87 wrote: is questioning not in your will?

Sure it is a choice thru our will to question, but we choose to submit our will to Allah and His beloved prophet. We trust absolutely in what Allah has told us thru the medium of His most excellent creation. And all shall be judged for the actions and choices of their will.

A muslim is one whose will is in the will of Allah.

josh87 wrote: Having sex with a 9yr old is wrong:

says who? you? and who are you?

josh87 wrote: she is not mature mentally or physically,

You may think this way, but she was more mature mentally to love, respect, and honor her beloved husband than any who throw alligations on him!

josh87 wrote: she cannot exactly say no to the most powerful man,

you do not know her! and you will never be able to, because your line of question is not to understand. You are here with a fixed mind set!

josh87 wrote: and if the prophet is exempt from blame as he followed custom,

THERE IS NO BLAME ON HIM FOR MARRYING A 9 YEAR OLD AISHA(RA)!!

josh87 wrote: that does not hide the fact it was a very wrong custom.

Again, by whose standards those customs were wrong? who are you to judge those custom? and with what principles are you judging those?

thru the priniciples of the mordern society? - where a 15 yr old starts dating? where there are more teen age illegitimate pregnancies than a planned one?

or thru the priniciples of a society that allows gay marriages!!

thru these principles those customs were wrong? right? NO! wrong, dead wrong!!

josh87 wrote: He was perfect, he should've ignored custom...

He was perfect thus he elevated the status of mankind thru his very presence. The favors granted on him in this life and the next are beyond measure. He will be glorified till the end of time, but those who doubt him and bear enimosity  for him will perish along with their very names! - this is how perfect he was.

None of even his deadly enemies of that time have raised a finger against his marraige to Aisha, do you know this?

Or do you know that Aisha (RA) never complained about this, not even once, neither during her marriage, nor when she became a widow? why? who stopped her?

Whatever she ever had to say about her husband was only eloquence! And what is your problem with this? 

Her place is in Jannah, and those who accuse her husband will be cut off from all good, as promised in the Quran!

 

josh87 wrote: But Allah told him to do such. Would Allah really do such a thing?

YES allah really did such a thing.

josh87 wrote: And why trust a man because he said he had a dream...

becasue we love him more than we love ourselves.

josh87 wrote: would allah tell someone to do something that is intrinsically wrong, in every aspect?

If YOU think something is wrong does not really make it wrong. 

You are looking at it from a wrong perspective, that is the only thing wrong about the whole issue.

btw, basics of islam are not for you. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS FORUM. Please post in a forum we have created for the non-muslims. BECAUSE YOU ARE NO AUTHORITY TO QUESTION OUR BASICS!!

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josh has wrote every objections by considering that our prophet has married to a girl who was 9.

1- In that age the Arabians were used to last digit of the numbers which have two digits. because their tradition is not written but oral. they tried to abbriviate of their speechs. so what if 9 is actually 19?

 2- In a hadith Hz. aishe says "when the surah-i Qalam (pen) is revealed i was a kid who is as big as i can remember and I was playing with my friends ." That surah has been revealed in early years of Mecca (thirth or forth year). that time probably she must be at least 7 years old. And the prophet has married to her in the first year of Medinah. (approx. 10 years later). I am sure you can calculate.

Peace be with you all!

Assalamu alaikum,

This was my response to this same subject in another thread:

Assalamu alaikum,

INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO. 1: Only the Holy Qur�an is infallible. While many ahaadith rise to the level of �sound,� this does not ensure they are preserved in absolutely uncorrupted form.

INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 2: The various ahaadith concerning the marriage of our beloved Prophet, salallahu allaihi wassalam, to Aisha, radiallahu anha, contradict one another. This leads to the logically inescapable conclusion that at least some of these ahaadith have been corrupted.

INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 3: Countless experiments on human memory have proven conclusively that even when presented with simple information, the human mind will distort that information, even when the person is deliberately trying to convey the information accurately. See for example http://pages.slc.edu/~ebj/IM_97/Lecture7/L7.html

INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 4: The overwhelming body of ahaadith concerning the life of our beloved Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam, testify to his humility, modesty, self-sacrifice, charity, compassion toward all but especially women and children. In short, the ahaadith describe the perfect example of humanity, and crush into dust the efforts of slanderers to cast even the slightest of doubts about his noble character. Furthermore, he did not seek to marry any other young women, but rather married widows and divorcees, despite the fact that he could have wed anyone he desired.

INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 5: Aisha, radiallahu anha, became the Prophet�s most valuable companion, serving him selflessly throughout their marriage to such a degree that she has become known as the mother of all the believers. This confirms that she was Divinely selected to accompany the Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam.

CONCLUSION: The transmission of these ahaadith have been subjected to distortion. All that we can assume from these ahaadith is that Aisha, radiallahu anha, was betrothed to our beloved Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam, as a child (a common occurrence in that society) and that the marriage was consummated when she reached puberty (a normal occurrence in nearly all societies prior to the 20th Century).

Those who use these ahaadith to besmirch the name of our beloved Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam, have no concern for the truth. Therefore, we should have no concern for them.

Anything of value here is a result of Allah, subhanahu wa ta�ala, while any errors are exclusively my own.

18.21.Thus did We make their case known to the people, that they might know that the promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour of Judgment. Behold, they dispute among themselves as to their affair. (Some) said, "Construct a building over them": Their Lord knows best about them: those who prevailed over their affair said, "Let us surely build a place of worship over them."

22. (Some) say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them; (others) say they were five, the dog being the sixth,- doubtfully guessing at the unknown; (yet others) say they were seven, the dog being the eighth. Say thou: "My Lord knoweth best their number; It is but few that know their (real case)." Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear, nor consult any of them about (the affair of) the Sleepers.