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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chrysalis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 July 2009 at 3:36am
Monia: I think we have a slight misunderstanding. Since you are a new member, your post is reviewed by the moderators before it appears. Your post was not visible before I replied. . . so my reply was not in response to your post at all. Its a coincidence that we both talked about the same thing (divorce & astaghfar)

I was basically recommending divorce & astaghfaar to the lady in question, just like you. Hope I was able to clear the misunderstanding.

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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah

All Praises be to Allah swt, who is the Controller of our hearts. He Guides whom He wills. Am happy to know that she realised, she's wrong.

Its a very delicate case brother.

We all know that her marriage itself is invalid, as Allah swt says in the Qur'an,  �And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you.---"

[al-Baqarah 2:221]

When there's no marriage, how come will there be divorce.Anyways,Allah swt is very Merciful, that He made her realise that she is wrong.The life of this dunya is very short, while our Hereafter is Forever. Our destination is Hereafter. I hope she shall soon seek forgiveness from Allah swt. Repentance, shall save her from consequences of hereafter.

Now, coming to both of them, if she really likes him, then ask her to invite to Islam {She must have done that}. Let him study Islam. The only next step that would bond them would be there marriage, only when he embraces Islam.

Insha Allah, when he likes her, surely he shall look for the option of studying Islam. Convey her that when she really likes him, she shud also bother of his aakhirah, which is a life forever. Right now, she shud get separated as soon as possible. Let her give some time to him to study Islam.

Yes, he may feel cheated, but let her explain him that she was wrong then.Let her explain that by going against the commanments of Allah swt, she will have to face severe punishments. At such times, he cannot help her. None can save her then. This way, she can talk about concept of Hereafter. Let him also think of his own hereafter.

I guess since you are a brother-in-Islam, you can help him alot.See that he gets influenced by Islam {Its Allah swt who bestows Guidance}, not for the sake of that girl but that he is really contended by Islam being the truth.

Lastly, make lots of duas {prayers} for him. Duas are very powerful weapons.They may have to face threats from there community as well. But again, once when we get into faith, it gets so stronger that we get ready to face even if the whole world gets hostile.

My best wishes and duas to them. May Allah swt bless them and all of us with hidayah. Ameen.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mmtofeeq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 July 2009 at 4:16am
Asalam alkum every one!
Thanks very much. I m very happy that all of u have give me loads of information and courege. Now I have another aspect of this story.
The main source of information and guidlines for her was me that relised her that she was wrong. Because at the time of her marriage I was not with her to tell her what is right and what she need to do so I came closer to her and relised her that this is wrong and what ever is happening inbetween her and her husband was counted as a zanah. May Allah will forgive her.


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If we look back at Islamic history, especially of those early days of early Islam, when Prophethood was bestowed to Muhammad {Sallal lahu alayhi wasallam}.There were families like family of Yasir, wherein all the members of family embraced Islam. There were families where, brother was a mushrik, while sister was into folds of Islam, on the other side, father was mushrik and son was a muslim. Likewise,a mother was mushrik, while son embraced Islam.

Now coming to the relation of husband and wife,there were homes where wife was a muslim and husband a mushrik. Prophet {Pbuh}  got his three daughters already married before he was bestowed with Prophethood then. Eldest daughter Zaynab RA was married to Abu�l-�Aas ibn al-Rabee� al-Qurashi (may Allah be pleased with him), who was the son of her maternal aunt Haalah bint Khuwaylid. Other daughters,Ruqayya RA was married to Utbah ibn Abi Lahab, Umm Kulsum RA was married to Utaybah ibn Abi Lahab. When Muhammad {Sallal lahu alayhi wasallam} was bestowed with Prophethood and then was commanded to convey the message of Islam first to his family and nearest relatives, his daughters too embraced Islam. But there husbands did not.Zaynab RA's husband however did not like leaving the religion of his forefathers and he refused to adopt the religion. And other two son-in-laws were like there father Abu Lahb. Infact they tortured daughters of our Prophet.

The Quraysh felt that it was intolerable for their sons to remain married to Muhammad's daughters. They also considered that it would be an embarrassing and difficult situation for Muhammad if his daughters were to be returned to his household.Abu-I-Aas,did not want to divorce his wife as he loved her very much, while the sons of Abu Lahb, left there wives. The Prophet in fact was delighted when they came back to him and he had hoped that Abu-l Aas would also return Zaynab to him except that at that time he had no power to compel him to do so. The law forbidding the marriage of a Muslim woman to a nonbelieving man was not yet in force.{Ayah 221 of Surah Baqarah, which we have been reading}.

Anyways,it happened that Zaynab RA had to return to her father {after battle of Badr, Abu-i-Aas, was held captive, and he was set free, on the condition that he shud return his daughter Zaynab. When she was returned, the law was revealed {ayah 221 of chapter 1}. Am going very long, To cut short, Zainab RA was returned to her husband only when Abu'I Aas RA, embraced Islam.

What i intended to say was, even the Prophet's daughter, had to separate herself from her husband, though they liked eachother. They did humbly obey this law.

To look at other examples, we have

Al-Qurtubi said:

Talhah ibn �Ubayd-Allah was married to Arwaa bint Rabee�ah ibn al-Haarith ibn �Abd al-Muttalib. They were separated by Islam, then in Islam Khaalid ibn Sa�eed ibn al-�Aas married her. She was one of the [Muslim] wives of the kuffaar who fled to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Prophet{Pbuh}kept her in Madinah and married her to Khaalid.

The daughter of al-Waleed ibn al-Magheerah, the wife of Safwaan ibn Umayyah, became Muslim before him, and the marriage was annulled. Then he became Muslim later on, and she went back to him

Umm Hakeem bint al-Haarith ibn Hishaam, the wife of �Ikrimah ibn Abi Jahl. Her marriage was annulled, then he became Muslim during her �iddah, so she went back to her husband.

{the above three examples are pasted from Islam-qa}.

Its a long post but i wish you to read out to her so that she gets strong with her decision to stay separate with that person.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Monia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 July 2009 at 8:32am

ooooooh, I am sorry chrysalis Shocked as you said I am new and I thought you were responding to my post, thank you for the explanation "sorry again"

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chrysalis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2009 at 5:30am
No problems Sis Monia . . . Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Akhe Abdullah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 July 2009 at 6:01am
As Salamu Alaikum,Seek.I always loved that story.JazakAllah Kheiran for sharing it with us.
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