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Well, in fact both the enteries, one posted by bro Fredi (without reference) and one pasted above, do allude towards the possibility of 'Jesse' being the contraction of 'Ishmael'. Whether one accepts it or not, is a matter of personal choice and faith, most of this has also been discussed on this thread. 

Regarding 'official' and 'alternative' version of family tree, one may like to mirror this question pertaining to Luke's and Mathew's account as well. Isn't it? Choose with your own personal liking/disliking.
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Originally posted by ibnuarradi ibnuarradi wrote:

Originally posted by George George wrote:

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Are you saying that Muhammad was a Jew?  Would you please provide Muhammad's family tree.  Thanks.

Let's not get into the genealogy of Jesus.  There are answers to what you posted coming from Jewish law.

 

Could you give me the link for the family tree, please.
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Originally posted by AhmadJoyia AhmadJoyia wrote:

Reference for Jesse as contraction of Ishmail: Encyclopaedia Biblica, Rev. T. K. Cheyne D.Litt D.D., J. Sutherland Black M.A. LL.D., Vol. 3, under "Names," p. 3292, item 52.

Could you please provide a direct link.  I looked and could not find it.  Thanks.
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Jesse was the father of King David. Obed -> Jesse -> David (Ruth 4:17).

The scriptures teach that "My covenant I will establish with Isaac" (Genesis 17:21). Later God repeated, "In Isaac your seed shall be called" (Genesis 21:12). Jesus came through the lineage of Isaac ... Jesse ... David ... etc. (Matthew 1:5-16).

From early on in the Old Testament, the Bible never deals with the descendants of Ishmael.

The fact that Jesus is the branch is clearly seen by Jeremiah (23:5-6) "The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when I will raise up for David a righteous Branch, and he shall reign as king and deal wisely, and shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. And this is the name by which he will be called: The Lord is our righteousness".

This is to be fulfilled in the future at the second coming of Christ. " ... its rider is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war ... he is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is called The Word of God ... on his robe and on his thigh he has a name inscribed, King of kings and Lord of lords" (Revelation 19:11-16).

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Originally posted by George George wrote:

Could you please provide a direct link.  I looked and could not find it.  Thanks.

http://www.bible-researcher.com/encyclopaedia-biblica.html
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