Hijab issues

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   As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu 

I agree with you sister Nausheen, this is a subject that will never go away.

It is very distressing:

When we have countries where the majority are Muslims and the Government has banned the woman from wearing Hijab in Universities, Government jobs, etc.
When women achieve a high status in politics etc, they takes of her Hijab as a sign of freedom, misleading the world, that Hijab is not an obligation for woman.
When women who once wore the Hijab and Niqab with pride now are discarding it as old fashioned, not part of Deen.

None the less it is a confirmed fact that Hijab is an obligation (Fardh) for woman. What I cannot understand is why Hijab is always an issue. Wearing or not wearing Hijab does not measure one's piety. (Sister Hayfa quoted a nice article from Muslim Woman league). But denying the fact that it is an obligation is a sin. Whether a woman wishes to wear it or not it is her choice and only she is accountable to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala for her disobedience. It is the same if one does not pray the Salah, it is a personal relationship between the individual and Allah and HE will reward or punish the person.

Sister Jenni, your attitude towards sister Nausheen is uncalled for. Firstly no matter how divided we are in our ideas, this is an Islamic forum and we are here to help each other towards what is good and prevent each other from falling victims to our whims and desires.
Secondly sometimes when things are being discussed, from time to time, some where along the line it will benefit someone. 

Since my return after a two months break from cyberworld, I found that in most threads, brothers and sisters are abusing each other. At least let us unite here in Islamicity. Let this forum be a place for healthy discussions, a place where we can hold onto the Rope of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala together.

May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide us to what is good and keep evil away from our paths. Ameen! 

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Alwardah Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2005 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 980	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alwardah Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 August 2005 at 12:20pm
	As Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu I agree with you sister Nausheen, this is a subject that will never go away. It is very distressing: When we have countries where the majority are Muslims and the Government has banned the woman from wearing Hijab in Universities, Government jobs, etc. When women achieve a high status in politics etc, they takes of her Hijab as a sign of freedom, misleading the world, that Hijab is not an obligation for woman. When women who once wore the Hijab and Niqab with pride now are discarding it as old fashioned, not part of Deen. None the less it is a confirmed fact that Hijab is an obligation (Fardh) for woman. What I cannot understand is why Hijab is always an issue. Wearing or not wearing Hijab does not measure one's piety. (Sister Hayfa quoted a nice article from Muslim Woman league). But denying the fact that it is an obligation is a sin. Whether a woman wishes to wear it or not it is her choice and only she is accountable to Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala for her disobedience. It is the same if one does not pray the Salah, it is a personal relationship between the individual and Allah and HE will reward or punish the person. Sister Jenni, your attitude towards sister Nausheen is uncalled for. Firstly no matter how divided we are in our ideas, this is an Islamic forum and we are here to help each other towards what is good and prevent each other from falling victims to our whims and desires. Secondly sometimes when things are being discussed, from time to time, some where along the line it will benefit someone. Since my return after a two months break from cyberworld, I found that in most threads, brothers and sisters are abusing each other. At least let us unite here in Islamicity. Let this forum be a place for healthy discussions, a place where we can hold onto the Rope of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala together. May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala guide us to what is good and keep evil away from our paths. Ameen!
	�Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An�am 6:165) "Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)

Hayfa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Female Joined: 07 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2368	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hayfa Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 August 2005 at 1:01pm
	hmm sometimes we think we are doing more good and do more harm. Secondly sometimes when things are being discussed, from time to time, some where along the line it will benefit someone. Yes but what type of discussion is there when people are like: "Its a rule you should do it. That's it you are a bad Moslem" I find that often people who just see a rule and say do it and have no comprehension or ability to have any empathy towards others. Frankly, people on these web sites discourage more then encourage. Compassion is lost. Yes this is a Moslem web site and it makes me wonder what makes a Moslem? It is highly discouraging.
	When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi

firewall Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 November 2004 Location: Malaysia Status: Offline Points: 215	Post Options Post Reply Quote firewall Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 August 2005 at 5:14pm
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Nausheen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Female Joined: 10 January 2001 Status: Offline Points: 4251	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nausheen Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 August 2005 at 5:22pm
	*Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,* *Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,* Assalamualaikum wa rahamtullah wa barkatuhu, Jazak allah khair everyone who took their time to post on this thread. Alhamdulillah, as I hoped some of our sisters do agree with the subject. To those who do not, just letting you know, I wanted to post thru the authority of a scholar that hijab is an obligation not a choice. It is not that we wear it or not, and both is okay. The above post was not to point a fingure at anyone, as I hardly know anyone personally. I am in no position to call anyone good or bad, and those who do not wear hijab for whatever reason they may have, their best judge is allah(SWT). The best duty a muslim has is to tell them what is a part of religion and should be observed. There are hardly any people in my family who wear hijab ... I grew up, went thru school and college not wearing it, and always thought it was just a part of religion which is not as necessary as others or I would have been told about it. Alhamdulillah, it was after my marriage - in a country far away from home, I met a muslim sister from pakistan who pointed out to me that the order of hijab is there in the quran. She recited the translation of the verse for me in urdu, and I was left speechless ... I always knew denying anything that is in Quran is not a muslim should do - that evening I realised, I have not even read the entire quran in a language I can understand ... tho I observed the five pillars of Islam, and there was no queastion in my heart about my muslim identity. I did not read the quran right away, not did I dig into all the hadith related to the issue right away. It took me a while to understand and accept this as a part of my individuality. Eventually when I did, it was not easy to expalin to all those who knew me without a hijab, but alhamdulillah, the hidaya was from allah, and I have always been quite comfortable with this new change, despite the odds. Since I was once, one of those who did not wear a hijab, yet lived the spirit of Islam, and was never forced to wear it ... I would be the last person to make it compulsory to anyone from myself. Yet, as a muslim we should tell the sisters that it is an obligation, so even if you do not observe it, at least do not deny it as an obligation, and that would be better for you, insha allah. May allah give you the hidaya, and create circumstances for you to observe His commands. Like I said in the other thread, a hijab alone cannot determine the piety of any muslimah. There are several obligations in a muslim,s life and all require different levels of sincerity. The more one observes, the closer the person gets to allah (SWT). I agree with sister Alwarda, there should not really be an issue, but there is ... thus when there is let us all try to find a common ground to solve it, in a manner which would best please allah(SWT). Insha allah this will be best for all, ameen. Maa salaama, Nausheen
	<font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR]

Alwardah Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2005 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 980	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alwardah Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 August 2005 at 12:37pm
	As Salamu Alaikum I agree with you sister Hayfa, sometimes we do more harm while we think we are doing good. I also agree that sometimes compassion is lost, but remember we cannot control the feelings of others. We must remember that none of us are perfect, each one of us are trying to express ourselves the best we know how. And as sister Ummziba pointed out there is no compulsion in religion so no one can force another to do any thing they do not what to do, but at the same time it is the duty of each and every Muslim to enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil. Muslims like everyone else on the face of this world are human beings, with good and bad qualities. Only a Muslim who really and truly follows the teachings of the Glorious Qur'an and the Sunnah in letter and spirit has no bad or very few bad qualities. Unfortunately in the world today, we don't have any Muslim (Please note this is based on my opinion) that come near to the qualities and characteristics of the early Muslims. If we look at the world today, it is highly discouraging to follow any religion not only Islam. But as human being we know we need to worship a God that is our natural instinct. Alhamdulillah despite being born in a Muslim home (practicing just the basic pillars), I have now, this past 4 or 5 years realized the true meaning of Islam and have discovered its beauty and inner peace all by the Grace and Mercy of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala who guided me and brought me out of the darkness to His Light. Even so I am no where near the level of piety that the early Muslims had. Even though each day I am trying to improve myself, I am still far, very far away from the level of piety, they reached. Insha Allah, Allah does not abandon HIS servants who seek HIS Guidance and there is hope for each and every one of us. Alhamdulillah there are many sisters like me, sister Nausheen an example, whom Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala has blessed. But more blessed are those who after searching for the truth, Allah guided them to and they reverted. These brothers or sisters accepted Islam after true conviction and they try their best to implement the teachings in their lives step by step. I truly admire them for that. (oops of the topic here) Firewall a very good question - Why the Ayat? Take care Wa Alaikum Salam
	�Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An�am 6:165) "Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)

habiba Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Starter Joined: 19 August 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote habiba Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 August 2005 at 5:07am
	sallam to every1 thank your for some of the quotes and after eading some of thease posts my intension of wearing a hijab has strengthend as i am very scared but may allah help me