I'll probably regret this but I have to ask

They don't feel entitled to insult or rape women who wear short skirts - sadly, in a western country with a growing muslim population, it seems we have to get used to being called names in our OWN country.

Hey Freespirit, are you a man or a woman? Let me tell you fear or rape or insults has NOTHING to do with religion. I teach self-defense and you are delving way too much into stereotypes. And if all the Muslim men felt "entitled" to rape there would be more male Muslim rapists. Nothing, nothing shows that there is any correlation. In fact the vast majority of women are raped by someone they know. I just taught a self-defense class to teenagers, Muslims were not mentioned once.. you need to check your facts.

If you don't think MEN, in general are obsessed with porn, sexuality, etc as a whole you know nothing about the BILLION dollar industry that exists all over the world. Did you know that buying sex is bigger business that making cars in Japan? That's enlightenment for you. The fact that so many men buy prostitutes and child prostitutes all over the world shows sexual obsession is a problem that lots of men deal with. Tiger Woods comes to mind as a public example.  Muslim men are no different then the vast majority of men all over the world. Some are good, some are not so good.  

You are right that some young people are forced into marriage. Some young people all over the world are forced into prostitution. Religion has little to do with it. Christians in certain countries "force" their children into marriage, so do Hindus.

Considering the state of your "free" world,  I really doubt society will suddenly repress teen sex, naked women all over and the "almost anything" goes culture. That genie is not going back in the bottle so to speak. Many young people are raising themselves cause their parents are too busy either making money or living the "free life" with no accountability.

Honestly, you may be watching too much news. I"d be more worried about the senseless wars, deficits, loss of "freedoms" by our government and the Chinese economic power. If there will be a collapse, it won't be from the Muslims.

Yes and we have reached the age of "reason and enlightenment" enough to cause world wars, send 58,000 US people to their senseless deaths in Vietnam, using the atomic bomb, the detainment of innocent people and the rise in "free sex" diseases such as AIDS. We value people only in terms of the "work production" they represent to the economy, we also shuffle our old people off to homes when it is no longer convenient to us. We are so enlightened we have used our own children, nonwhite people in medical experiments...  so much "enlightenment."



Edited by Hayfa - 15 May 2010 at 6:54pm

freespirit wrote: I am a non-Muslim and I fear Islam. How can I not fear a religion that seems so violent? You hear the words Allah Akhbar (sp?) while roadbombs go off killing people. You hear them yelled by hate-filled men who stone women or cut off heads (with delight it appears). So yes, I fear it. I see it as a threat to the lifestyle I love. Any comments?

I have to admit that this time I agree with you my friend.
After all, we have to see who is the real victim, who are loosing lives every day. As I recall one former US soldier saying in an interview on either NPR or Democracynow.org , " we are there on a population reduction mission"

Free spirit, you say you fear Islam. You know what you are saying is that you fear submission to God, that's what Islam means. You should fear God, who knows and records all you deeds and intentions and those will be used one day in your favor or against you, depending if they were in line with His teachings or not.

Hasan


Edited by honeto - 27 May 2010 at 8:43pm