Status of Jesus and Mary in Islam

1st I want to make it clear that there is noting as your messiah and our messiah. He will unite the world in peace.

2nd Lets not hijack this thread I opened a new thread concerning the maschiah with a lot of information: http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9076& ;PN=1

 

Edited by mochiah

paarsurrey wrote: So this is how Paul and Popes dealt with the Christianity; how cruel they had been to humanity? Would the Christians now realize it, if they wake up from their great slumber of two thousands+ years!

The Christians did actually wake up. The first serious attempt to get rid of this cruel, oppressive, racist religion, took place during the French revolution.

This revolution went inevitably in the direction of getting rid of the ruling class of Lords and to war with the foreign Lords:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution
Nobles ... began to flee the country as �migr�s, some of whom began plotting civil war within the kingdom and agitating for a European coalition against France.

There are apparently existing synonyms for Lordism: Manorialism and Seigneurialism. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manorialism). Seigneur is just a French word for Lord.

After getting rid of the Lords on the guillotine, the revolutionaries obviously understood that they had to stop praying to that picture of a French Lord:

Against Robespierre's concepts of Deism and Virtue, H�bert's (and Chaumette's) atheist movement initiated a religious campaign in order to dechristianize society. The climax was reached with the celebration of the Goddess "Reason" in Notre Dame Cathedral on 10 November.

Even though they knew they had to get rid of Christianity, it was not simple at all to invent a new religion:

On the next day, the worship of the deistic Supreme Being was inaugurated as an official aspect of the Revolution. Compared with H�bert's popular festivals, this austere new religion of Virtue was received with signs of hostility by an amazed Parisian public.

You cannot just invent a new religion out of the blue. To many people, atheism was not attractive either. So, they had no choice than to tolerate the return of the Christians and their priests.

The French have become increasingly anti-Christian since the revolution, moving steadily in the direction of atheism.

Now we gradually discover, however, that atheism does not work either. People increasingly fail to form the family structures that are needed to raise the next generations. Europe is simply turning into one huge brothel of sexual promiscuity, which endorses and glorifies estranged types of sexual relations between men and men or women and women.

A return to Christianity won't happen. That class-based, racist, religion that promotes inequality, took too much time, effort and blood to get rid off. If you pray to the picture of a Lord, the Lords will be back.

In the decades following the insights gathered in the French Revolution, Ludwig Feuerbach wrote in The essence of Christianity that man has created God and God has not created man. He was correctly referring to the fact that Christians make an invalid man-like representation of God, and that this representation, these pictures, are just a fictional creation of man. This Christian god, who is actually a man, loosely related somehow to the jewish prophet, Jesus, did not create man. He is not even a god. According to Karl Marx, religion is an expression of material realities and economic injustice. Thus, problems in religion are ultimately problems in society. In fact, the purpose of this Christian religion is to create and support these injustices.

Much of the hatred of religion in Europe, is now spilling over on Islam. Christianity is bad, so all religions are bad. In Europe, they simply assume that Islam must also be oppressive and endorse social inequality, just like Christianity does.

The opponents of Islam connect to these social inequalities enforced by Christianity by arguing that women are oppressed in Islam. This argument becomes weaker and weaker with time, when we observe that the so-called equality between men and women in the West just leads to a brothel in which it becomes increasingly difficult to form stable families and raise the next generation.

The correct historical analysis is that the European hatred of Christianity is justified, but cannot be generalized to Islam.