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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Caringheart Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 October 2015 at 10:53am
Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:

Originally posted by TG12345 TG12345 wrote:

Have you ever been to the West Bank? I have, and three times.

Yes, I know.  I have read your reports on this forum, and I admire the work that you are doing.  If you had actually been a witness to this incident, I would believe you.

Quote I have seen soldiers shoot Palestinian kids who were throwing rocks.

Yup, I totally believe that.

Quote I have also seen them falsely arrest kids who weren't doing anything, like this summer in Hebron when some school age kids playing soccer at night were almost arrested after a soldier claimed they were throwing rocks at him.
Fortunately, a Palestinian man with a camera was there, and what was on film was the soldier throwing rocks at the kids and trying to provoke them. When tha didn't work, he tried to get them arrested.
Due to our presence and the video, his commander did not arrest the kids, but the soldier was not disciplined also.

Do you have the video by any chance?  I'd like to see it.

Anyway, IMHO there is still a considerable moral distance between those sorts of things and deliberately shooting a three year old girl in the face.

Quote How would a stray bullet hit someone in a balcony who is nowhere near the stone throwers and above them? I have been to that village also and have seen the houses there, to shoot her the soldier must have aimed upwards. During the clashes, people throw rocks from the street or the road, not from the houses.

I don't know.  Possibly a bullet ricocheted.  Possibly the girl wasn't actually on the balcony.  Possibly the intended target was her father, who perhaps was shooting from the balcony.  It does seem an odd coincidence that it happened to be the daughter of the Nablus police chief who was shot.

There are now several similar sites reporting the incident (e.g. http://palestineinsight.net), in which Fatah leader Morad Eshteiwy claims that Israeli forces directly shot her.  They don't say whether Eshteiwy witnessed the incident himself.

Sorry, but I'm still finding it easier to believe that a Fatah leader would make up a story like this to discredit the Israeli soldiers, than that an Israeli soldier would deliberately shoot a three year old girl in the face.  I know Israelis do a lot of terrible things, but I also know that false accusations are commonplace in conflicts like this.

IMHO the real atrocity here is the very fact that we have an Israeli tank driving down a Palestinian street spraying sewage at houses and people, as shown in this video.  I can hardly think of anything more disgusting or dehumanizing, or more provocative, or less likely to lead to peace, than that.  

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Originally posted by Ron Webb Ron Webb wrote:


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I guess my main message here is that if you want to convince people like me (not that I need much convincing to begin with) of who the real aggressor is, and which side the world's condemnation needs to focus on, I would concentrate my message on the skunks and the destruction of the water supply and similar acts.  With stories of casualties or body counts or missile attacks or the like, it's too easy to get into questions of who fired the first shot and whether it was in self-defence or whatever; but videos like the one I saw are irrefutable evidence of moral degradation and pure purposeless depravity.  They should be played on nightly newscasts all over North AmericaThen maybe something might change.

Or not.  I must confess I'm losing hope. Unhappy

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