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Honzo 
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 Posted: 18 January 2009 at 10:14pm |
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U hv again ignored the verses posted, "O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you .
he is an unbeliever. |
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Posted: 19 January 2009 at 8:23pm |
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Believer you really haven�t presented anything that supports your view in fact, it remains nonsensical. |
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believer
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Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:28am |
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LOL!! now that is the kettle calling the pot black or how ever that saying goes!! Muslima continuely take verses of the Bible out of context!!
Thats a problem with a christians they donot like to read verses of Quran in its proper context.
So 2:112 has to be read with:
"O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination. (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"
Too bad they weren't compiled together in the Quran!! I have asked that before not even context of where the verses fall in the compilation but what events were taking place to Mohammad and his group, where they lived etc.
Sorry but Mohammad is not in the Bible. At least I have not in the 5 years now that I have been studying the Quran that I have found proof.
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16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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Honzo
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Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:00pm |
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sry can u provide more detail ?
U r trying to find Muhammad (peace be upon him) in bible by studying Quran ?  |
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honeto
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Posted: 26 January 2009 at 2:02pm |
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believer,
following a prophet is not worshipping the prophet. All the prophets were followed through their example in practice of God's teachings.
The messanger lived and taught what God wanted mankind to follow, thus following the prophet in essense is serving God because that's what the messanger did, for which he was sent.
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted: 28 January 2009 at 7:19pm |
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So why can't a believer in the One True GOD follow Jesus?
How can you be sure the Apostle is not Jesus?
What if the whole Quran is meant to be about Jesus and not Mohammad? I am going to start a thread on this!!
LOL!! no. I just never thought to look for Mohammad in the Holy Bible before I came on these forums.
062.002 Literal:
He is who sent in the illiterates/belongers to a nation a messenger from them, he reads/recites on them His verses/evidences , and he purifies them , and he teaches/instructs them The Book , and the wisdom , and (even) if, they were from before in (E) clear/evident , misguidance. Free_Minds:
He is the One who sent to the Gentiles a messenger from among themselves, to recite to them His revelations, and to purify them, and teach them the Scripture and the wisdom. And before this, they were clearly astray. Khalifa:
He is the One who sent to the gentiles a messenger from among them, to recite to them His revelations, purify them, and teach them the scripture and wisdom. Before this, they had gone far astray. Yusuf_Ali:
It is He Who has sent amongst the Unlettered a messenger from among themselves, to rehearse to them His Signs, to sanctify them, and to instruct them in Scripture and Wisdom,- although they had been, before, in manifest error;- Shakir:
He it is Who raised among the inhabitants of Mecca an Messenger from among themselves, who recites to them His communications and purifies them, and teaches them the Book and the Wisdom, although they were before certainly in clear error, Pickthal:
He it is Who hath sent among the unlettered ones a messenger of their own, to recite unto them His revelations and to make them grow, and to teach them the Scripture and wisdom, though heretofore they were indeed in error manifest, Arberry:
It is He who has raised up from among the common people a Messenger from among them, to recite His signs to them and to purify them, and to teach them the Book and the Wisdom, though before that they were in manifest error, George_Sale:
It is He who hath raised up a midst the illiterate Arabians an Apostle from among themselves, to rehearse his signs unto them, and to purify them, and to teach them the scriptures and wisdom; whereas before they were certainly in a manifest error: Hilali_Khan:
He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from among themselves, reciting to them His Verses, purifying them (from the filth of disbelief and polytheism), and teaching them the Book (this Quran, Islamic laws and Islamic jurisprudence) and Al-Hikmah (As-Sunnah: legal ways, orders, acts of worship, etc. of Prophet Muhammad SAW). And verily, they had been before in mainfest error; Malik:
It is He Who has raised among the unlettered people a Messenger of their own, who recites to them His revelations, purifies them, and teaches them the Book and Wisdom, though prior to this they were in gross error, Maulana_Ali:
He it is Who raised among the illiterates a Messenger from among themselves, who recites to them His messages and purifies them, and teaches them the Book and the Wisdom -- though they were before certainly in manifest error -- QXP:
He it is Who has sent a Messenger among those who had never before received a Scripture - to convey unto them His Messages, and to make them grow in humanity, and to instruct them in the Scripture (as it is being revealed) and Wisdom, Judgment and establishment of Allah's Rule on earth. Whereas before that they were obviously lost in error. Sarwar:
Have faith in God and His Messenger and strive hard for His cause with your wealth and in persons. This is better for you if only you knew it. Le_Coran:
C'est Lui qui a envoy� � des gens sans Livre (les Arabes) un Messager des leurs qui leur r�cite Ses versets, les purifie et leur enseigne le Livre et la Sagesse, bien qu'ils �taient auparavant dans un �garement �vident, Chouraqui:
Lui qui a suscit� dans les matries un Envoy� issu d�elles, il leur scande ses Signes, et les purifie, il leur enseigne l��crit et la Sagesse puisqu�elles �taient dans un fourvoiement manifeste. |
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Mansoor_ali
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Posted: 29 January 2009 at 2:46pm |
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Here is story of former Roman catholic bishop of the Uniate Chaldean and read it how he rightly describes Prophet Muhammad in the Bible:
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