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Assalamu alaikum.
 
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I cannot remember in any of the scriptures where Allah said that Adam is superior to all mankind. Allah talked of TAFDIILI (bestowment of something at His Exclusive Right to someone). What Allah told us in the Scriptures was He Breathed into us His Characteritics and in Qur'an 16:78 He says, "And Allah has brought you out from the wombs of your mothers while you know nothing. And He gave you hearing, sight and hearts thay you might give thanks (follow his Ordinances and Shari'a). I have forgotten that Law of Entrophy in Physics. Do not involve yourself in speculations or theories, although it is allowed only if it could increase your faith. Such issues should b discussed only with those versed in that field of study. That was  the teaching of Muhammad,  Moses or Jesus.
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Hello Friendship :-)
 
What are the characteristics of God that were breathed in us ?

Slightly off topic. Is God referred to as He in the Qu'ran ? If God is not referred to by the masculine pronoun - why is God always referred to as 'He' ? Just wondering about this if it's true.


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Assalamu alaikum.
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Allah is in Masculine and not feminine tense. We use capital 'He' and not 'he' to donate Allah's Characteristics, and Works etc in the Qur'an. We use also I and We, but not they. We use also Whom. This is dictated by Arabic grammar and inflexion as a sign of respect.
There are many characteristics. The most important is Justice and Just. He said, "He hates injustice and does not allow it on mankind. He is Good and does not accept anything but that which is good". Although the Muslim scholars gave 99 such characteristics they are more than that.
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Originally posted by Gulliver Gulliver wrote:

 
Slightly off topic. Is God referred to as He in the Qu'ran ? If God is not referred to by the masculine pronoun - why is God always referred to as 'He' ? Just wondering about this if it's true.
 
Hello there Gulliver.
 
Allah/God is Unique , He does have the same attributes as us mortals, hence transcends the limitations of gender. Which is why it is wrong and perhaps even sinful to suggest that Allah is masciline or feminine.
 
According to Yusuf Estes, the word 'Allah' describes Him perfectly - because it has no gender connotations. The arabic word Allah, does not connotate any gender (male or female), the word is also always singular, and never plural.
 
This basically an issue of translation. You have to understand that Arabic is a very unique language, especially when it comes to grammar etc. Thus, english translations do not do justice to the actual meaning when comprehended in English. For example, many times . . .there is not a proper word to translate something from Arabic into English.
 
According to Zakir Naik; "The Arabic word �Allah� has no gender. The Arabic grammar has only two genders, male and female and male gender is of two types: 
 
1.Masculine Haqeeqi i.e. Real, which is used to denote the masculine gender in humans, animals.

2. Masculine Majazi i.e. Unreal, wherein it is used as Masculine but in reality it is not so e.g. (Angels) Malak, Layl (Night), Bab (door). The word Allah (swt), too falls in the second category i.e. Masculine Majazi. "

 
We use the word 'He' , because there is no other word that may perhaps explain the Arabic version better, that does not in anyway imply that Allah is nauzubillah a man, or masculine in nature. Allah is beyond such human concepts we have of gender. Masculinity or Feminity are not amongst the attributes of Allah.
 
In lots of languages, many things have masculine/feminine genders, why is for example a glass in the Urdu language referred to as a masculine gender, and a plate is in the feminine gender? In french, why is a castle referred to as 'he' , while a house is reffered to as a 'she'?
 
PS: To answer your previous question, Chrysalis is a 'she' :p
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Thank you Chrys.  I think Jesus talks about 'Father' to give a sense of the closeness of God to each of us.
 
In OT God is compared to a mother hen with her chicks. I do wonder about God as seeminly 'only male,' and all the implications of that in any religion. Some people may have very real reasons for being unable to relate to God as 'male'. Poor parental role models or within church organisations - very poor male role models, who are supposed to be the 'male' God's 'representatives'. You get those across the board too.  I've known quite a few people in that kind of situation  -  where they cannot relate to a 'male' God for a variety of reasons, having suffered at the hands of certain individuals, and are left in limbo not feeling they can relate to God at all - especially in times of great need, when a belief and ablitity to relate to God would be of real help to them.
 
It's an awful situation and very tragic. I think it's the same for women too perhaps. That they maybe felt they had to need to relate to a 'man' God - when often they would rather have wanted to relate to the 'feminine' of God. If you know what I mean. It's all bout balance I suppose.
 
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I love your little budgie. When I was younger - one of my bros and I would bring in all the stray animals from around and about and take care of 'em. Was like a menagerie. Drove our mother nuts.  One time we had sixty budiges in a big cage thing made from an old wardrobe. Started off catching one little green budgie like yours in the street. It must have escaped from somewhere. Would not have lasted long in our climate. One became sixty.  Now think about that one ;-) How was that for an immaculate conception miracle.  LOL


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In Islam, there is a similar parable about Allah. In a hadith, it is stated that Allah loves His people more than 70 mothers combined. . . .imagine that! Its just an example ofcourse, the number '7' is often used to stress upon quantity in arabic. . .so one should take it accordingly.
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In Islam, there is a similar parable about Allah. In a hadith, it is stated that Allah loves His people more than 70 mothers combined. . . .imagine that! Its just an example ofcourse, the number '7' is often used to stress upon quantity in arabic. . .so one should take it accordingly.
 
What budgie r u talking about? The one in my Avatar? lol. Thats not my 'budgie', it is one of Islamicity's, I'm just using it. I liked it Smile. Oh, and its A Yellow-Headed Amazon Parrot . . . :p (thot i'd share) I like parrots. . .
60 for a budgie is a huge accomplishment. I didnt know they could grow up to be that old! wow!


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