Well war in itself is depressing. I'm sure the opposition (meaning the patriots of Iraq fighting against the coalition) are also depressed in some way as well.

Gibbs wrote: Well war in itself is depressing. I'm sure the opposition (meaning the patriots of Iraq fighting against the coalition) are also depressed in some way as well.

It must be interesting for the percentage of people who join the military for 'better' reasons and end up in Afghanistan or Iraq. You get there and you realize that what you are doing is not really benefiting anyone but a few people. Its not the Afghanis or the Americans. But a few who benefit from the war machine.

Especially you get there and you realize that the people there have very few material possessions in comparison, have now with the Russians and now US invading, have had little opportunity to restructure and rebuild their lives for the past 20+ years.

And I am sure the Afghanis would feel that Obama has deserved the Nobel "Peace" Prize.

Gibbs wrote: "Indeed war is depressing, however your analogy comparing coalition forces with those defending their homeland and honor is weak at best."   Excuse me Sign Reader for the mistatement. Iraq, Afghanistan it's war in general so they are all connected in some way. Anyway, addressing the above comments statement how is a weak argument. If you are going to make a statement please support your words.

I concur with you in one regard that this war is connected cuz it is waged by the same entities in both places...

It is not a war in the true sense of the word, real war has semblance of some kind of parity...here this is plain craze of jingoism against people who did no aggression to any of the NATO chauvinists...this is plain Military Industrial Complex out to rob the tax payers dry as President Eisenhower talked about ...

Let's compare some numbers here for an exercise cuz they don't lie as propagandist in politics and the shills in media do...

NATO comprises twenty-eight members: Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

Total population of these states comes to about 800 million
and spread over 8 million square miles of good god's earth plus their hegemony over at least the same number of people who in their bondage in neo colonies (previously they were European colonies)...and the resources!
This group has an estimated GDP of no less than 25 trillion dollars with a trillion $ spent on the war machines...backed by the most advanced technologies known to the mankind that can easily annihilate the human race!

Now look at Afghanistan...A population of 20 million scattered over 250,000 sm with a GDP of may be 10 billion$..when she was attacked...

How anyone with any sense of justice can accept their charge ... the former group being under threat by the latter!

From the shear numbers it looks like a drummed up charge under the disguise of religiously conflicted hate and hubris ... There is no ratio or proportion if you look at the color coded numbers above...
In an article in TIME of 10/05, I caught "All share an interest in combatting Sunni-based religious extremism as well as the drug trade", now I get it what the issue is to keep the Sunnis suppressed at all cost...

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1927095-2,00.html

Question comes up what have the Sunnis done to the Europeans recently? Can't think of any...other than all the colonies were ruled by the them before the European pulled the rug under them...Do you see what I saw in Gelbs article?

Any wonder the US installed Shii control over another neo colony Pakistan via an NRO aka get out of the jail pass for the current president Zardari which similar to President Karzai's rigged and stolen election...

At least support of this waste is going down in the US population and that is a good news...May be with Nobel Peace Prize BHO pull a surprise...I am not going to hold my breath!


Edited by Sign*Reader - 12 October 2009 at 8:30pm