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JABARA: Sleep Walking, Straight To Hell |
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MOCKBA ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 September 2000 Location: Malaysia Status: Offline Points: 1410 |
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JABARA: Sleep Walking, Straight To Hell What happens when leaders sell their dignity, honor and the land their ancestors built and bled for? What happens to thinkers and writers when they think without their conscience? |
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ummziba ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Female Joined: 16 March 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1158 |
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Assalamu alaikum, Thank you for posting this most interesting article, brother Mockba. I have met quite a few Arabs over the past years. They have all been, without exception, kind, friendly and generous beyond belief. They have been, some, very religious, and others, not too religious, not unlike the average Muslim population. But when it comes to politics, the title of Mr. Jabara's article describes them competely! They know their home countries are run by despots, dictators and false kings. They know there is rampant corruption, illegal activity, and incredible injustice to the masses. Their attitude about the situation seems to be exactly like sleepwalking straight to hell. When trying to engage in conversation about their homeland, most would describe a place they love, but could not live in. And most would only shrug their shoulders at the situation and woefully mutter "masha'allah". I think this attitude pervades much of the Muslim world and is not exclusive of the Arabs. Look at how we sit by and watch injustices occuring all over the Muslim world and don't do anything about it. Look at how the negative media about Islam and Muslims dominates television, newspapers and the net, and we don't speak up. Look at how we spend more time arguing amongst ourselves than trying to help each other. The majority of the Muslim world, not just Arabs, are guilty of shrugging our shoulders and muttering "masha'allah". Seems many of us are sleepwalking straight to hell. Peace, ummziba. |
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
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herjihad ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2473 |
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Bismillah, The Taliban used Shari'ah law, and it succeeded in supressing and destroying many people. That is a poetic, simplistic dream. What about striving for something harder like developing a code of law using the Shari'ah law that is clearly Islaamic and fair to people? I don't want to live in a place where I cannot go outside unless my husband gives permission! No Way Jose! At least the despots like Bush and King Abdullah don't get into the details of my life like that! No, you have to offer a better trade of lifestyles if you want people to in reality support the movement. And really, whose hands would be cut off for stealing? A kid taking a candy at a store? A guy stealing money from a corporation? A mom stealing food for her kids? And nobody implements the adultery laws correctly. Women keep getting punished, but not the men. It seems her pregnancy is enough proof of her guilt; what about him? No, it's easy, really easy to say: Let's return to the Shari'ah, but put yourself and your families into that situation, and there might be a lot of danger for you. Despots will always be, whether it's in the guise of the Shari'ah or Kingships or Democracys. Edited by herjihad |
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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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MOCKBA ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 September 2000 Location: Malaysia Status: Offline Points: 1410 |
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Wa'alaikumu Salaam Ummziba, As I was reading through "The Life of Muhammad" by Muhammad Husein Haykal couple of years back, and as i recall some of the chapters pertaining to pre-Islamic Arabia which he describes in much detail, i become more and more convinced that the entire world today is Arabian peninsular of those days. Today's nations of the world are yesterday's tribes of Arabia, mostly pagan, hostile to each other, materialistic and ignorant. Handful of Muslims seeking refuge from the vulgarity of today's world is a flashback of the early Muslims scattered in the desert then, tortures inflicted upon innocent Muslims of today are the tortures brought on Bilaal (may Allah be pleased with him)... La ilaha illa Allaah is our message, is our life, and it infuriates the rejectors of God just like it did with the Quraish... angered by their worldy, self-installed and impotent idols they desecrate the Qur'aan not realizing that it is not the book that we worship unlike them... Regardless of our color, race, customs and national belonging - we are all "Arabs" of those early days! And we shall come together, insha Allah. Our objective now, is to strengthen our imaan (faith), establish habitual ihsaan (perfection), seek 'eelm (knowledge) and immediately reflect it in our 'alam (action). Meanings that are impossible to express in just one word... Jazzak Allahu Khair for your comment. I thought that the article might be interesting. Ma'a salaam. |
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Herjihad, Firstly, lets admit that there is no country practicing Shari'ah today. As such all claims of it being unjust, barbaric, or horrific are made up without any valid case studies. If the Law is not established how can we question only the crime and punishment.
The Taliban never had a chance to establish Shariah Law. Shari'ah is clearly Islamic and not unfair to people, it just can't be otherwise.
Let's not oversimplify matters that need complex and expert approach. There are numerous evidences of theft cases that did not necessiate cutting of hands during the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) what makes you so sure that a kid snatching a candy is to have his hand immediately cut with a chain saw before the eyes of his screaming classmates, splashing blood in their eyes. Take it easy and no drama, please. A candy taken lightly at an early age can result in something more serious like sinking teeth into national resources of another country and having innocent people's blood dripping of the jaw... one may not necesarily grow up to commit, but approving such act is a crime, too.
The very reason why the laws are not implemented correctly is because the Shari'ah has not been established. And anyone, provided that his beard is long enough, places himself in the position to hijack the responsibility and come up with a verdict. It is the very opposite of Shari'ah that has allowed instances of such behaviour. It is that "development of code law" to suit human cultural and other lusts that eventually results in such barbaric acts... but for the media and "progressive" minds it provides an excellent opportunity to turn tables and do "positioning" of the Shari'ah.
Your argument is not so much Shari'ah related, rather one of its many constituents, mainly criminal investigation. Establishment of Shari'ah would also mean establishment of all parts it is comprised of, including a qualified team of criminal investigators to study all available evidences. It is not chauvinistic butchery stuff... no, not that easy. If people are against death for rape, strict measures against adultery and perversions, adequate answer to murder... there is nothing to refute suggestion that those people are thieves, adulterers, perverts and murderers... or their supporters, in the least.
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ummziba ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Female Joined: 16 March 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1158 |
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Assalamu alaikum, brother Mockba, Yes, that is wonderfully insightful to compare today's world with the Arabian penninsula of the Prophet's (pbuh) time. Back then, a small handful of people led the world into Allah's light, through the leadership and example of Muhammad (pbuh). Today, as you point out, "a handful of Muslims seeking refuge from the vulgarity of today's world", are being inflicted with numerous injustices. I absolutely agree that those who live Islam do infuriate the rejectors of Allah, infuriates them to actions that are unjust and despicable. The thought of Allah's justice on the Judgement Day is the only thing that makes their actions even bearable to me. Can we realistically expect to help spread Islam and bring the ummah together, as those in the dawn of Islam did? Even if we all do our very best to live our Islam as Allah meant it to be, can we still make a difference in today's world without a leader? This is the part that frightens me. All I see everywhere in the ummah is arguing, discord, and unfortunately, a people broken into their own "camps" of Islamic thought and ideas, each declaring that "theirs" is the correct way. The concerns that Herjihad brings up about inconsistency of implementing shari'ah, certainly speaks to the problem of leadership. Is it the return of the Messiah that we must wait for in order to finally bring the ummah together? It is all so depressing, though important to think about and to try to act on. I must go sit in my garden and ponder the exquisite creation of Allah. Thank you, this conversation is most interesting! Peace, ummziba.
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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
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Assalaamu alaikum Agreed�.. Nice conversation How�s the exquisiteness of His creation getting along? No doubt, perfect indeed! Insha Allah Mokba� The word �chore� springs to mind. People engrossed in sinful pleasure, perceive religion as a �bore�. The Shari�ah� I know, is also seen as a chore. However you know, it constitutes so much more! Been a slave to ones bondage, is the real lasting chore!
(ps can somebody please clear something up for me, is Wasalaam the male version of saying peace! upon leaving? & Masalaam the female?... confused! [not with my gender! tut tut!])
can't blame me for not trying! heee heee just for You i will try to suffer gracefully!
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