What is the greatest act of love
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Topic: What is the greatest act of love
Posted By: believer
Subject: What is the greatest act of love
Date Posted: 20 January 2008 at 1:38pm
performed by Allah?
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: Nur_Ilahi
Date Posted: 23 January 2008 at 5:09am
Sending Muhammad as the last Messenger.
The Holy Scripture Al-Quran and Sunnah Rasulullah as a quide for humankind for eternity.
------------- Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 3:39pm
In what way?
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: Nur_Ilahi
Date Posted: 26 January 2008 at 1:54am
A Loving and Caring God, also a Merciful God would not let us be in this world without any kind of guide to reach Him?
He created us in order for us to seek Him. How to seek Him if there is no guides or guidelines for us to follow?
Try this anomaly. You are required to pass this exam, yet you are not given any notes, books or teachers to prepare you to pass this exam. And in the exams there are statements that says - Choose the correct answer. If you do not read any notes or read any books, or have any teachers to teach you, how do you know the answer? Perhaps one or two question you can get it right by luck, by getting all the answers correct has a very slim chance.
So He with His Mercy and Compassion, had sent prophets, messengers and scriptures as a guide to mankind to return to the folds of Allah's Love. to submit to the will of God.
------------- Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Posted By: layalee
Date Posted: 26 January 2008 at 5:32pm
The greatest love I feel I received is Allah( swt) forgiving me and allowing me to return back on the rightous path. Allah(swt) chooses who will go on the right path, and I'm very blessed that Allah has shown me the right way. Anyone that is on the right path by the grace of God has surely received great love.
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 28 January 2008 at 8:09pm
layalee- yes I feel very blessed too.
http://www.timshen.truepath.com/bigpic/Topic36.htm - http://www.timshen.truepath.com/bigpic/Topic36.htm
Interesting article on 2 different views of predestination in Christianity. Is there more then one view in Islam?
Nur-Ilahi very good analogy!!
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: Nur_Ilahi
Date Posted: 29 January 2008 at 6:15am
Believer,
Have you ever asked yourself, that we live in the same world, stand on the same earth, drink from the same water, breathe from the same air, eat from the same source, since Adam till now, how could there be more than One God managing this whole wide world and beyond?
Could there? What do you say?
------------- Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 29 January 2008 at 12:30pm
John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
greatest love of ALLAH is that he allowed liars to lie
greatest love of ALLAH is that he did not let IBLIS to die
In THORA in INJIL Jesus is just one INSAAN
no he is son of GOD now Say's john the BE IMAN
------------- awal
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 29 January 2008 at 7:36pm
There is only ONE True GOD- YHWH.
2 words poga:
Taqiyya
Kitman
YES, Allah does allow lying YHWH does not.
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 30 January 2008 at 12:57am
YHWH and Allah are the same God, the one and only God of Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. YHWH is the aramaic transcription of God, Allah in Arabic means the one and only God. Even arabic speaking Christians say Allah when referring to God
Jesus was the messenger sent to the descendants of Isaac. Mohammad was sent as a messenger to the children of Ishmael and the WORLD, To correct the deviations purpetuated by man in the other faiths.
Exodus 20 prohibits the followers of God to allow worship of any other than himself. No creation was to be elevated to the status of worship or to be associated as a partner with God. This has been stated in the Greek hebrew Gospels as well, When Jesus began his ministry and went to the temple to read, he read the traditional phrase used to this day in Judaism as an opening (from the Torah) "Hear, O Israel, the Lord your God is One God....."
Jesus, at no time, called himself a god or compared himself to the one that had sent him. The Council of Nicea injected that philosphy under the influence of the pagan Roman emperor Constantine in the 3rd century CE. It was a Indo-Roman-Greek philosophy that believed and practiced human divinity. Ever read greek or Roman mythology? All your gods and goddesses became saints, (patrons for different causes, comparable for example, Mary's attributes became that of Hestia, the goddess of the hearth and home and patron of mothers, etc.) the Roman feast of the Saturnalia became Christmas, etc. Most holidays today have pagan origins. Mohammad was sent by God to correct some of these misconceptions, as Jesus was sent to redirect the path of the Israelites.
This is the Great Love of the Merciful and Compassionate God, to offer a path of repentance and forgiveness, a chance to follow the path he makes available to us when we err from true worship. What are we but products of clay?
------------- "Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.
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Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 30 January 2008 at 10:29am
believer wrote:
There is only ONE True GOD- YHWH.
2 words poga:
Taqiyya
Kitman
YES, Allah does allow lying YHWH does not.
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i am not an ARAB i am BENGALI
so TAQIYYA and KITMAN means as far as i know holy hypocrisy to save ones life
in INDIA Taqiyaa means bed and there we use holy hypocrisy to save our life
and as for your YHWH i gave you part of SWEETSWORDS 53 [ ALLAH ]
Mr Barzakh Fitrath Ullah : GOD said YA HU GOD said it is i who alone speaks and listeners are all of you GOD said i gave four stones engraved with divine letter GOD said these four pure alphabet is my name what no impure JEWS have right to utter So JEWISH priests They placed the four stones like piano reeds They purified them self before they can even touch the stone Like the telegraphic buttons for the ALLAH'S phone GOD said YA HU GOD said i am the pure ISLAMIC name not for the filthy JEW
from SWEETSWORDS 53 [ ALLAH ]
------------- awal
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Posted By: The Guided One
Date Posted: 30 January 2008 at 2:31pm
The greatest love from Allah is creating the Earth (s) and Heavens and all that dwell in them.
I feel Allah's greatest love when I think of my existance, He created me when I did not exist. All praise and thanks are due to Allah.
------------- A. Suleiman
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Posted By: Andalus
Date Posted: 06 February 2008 at 10:34am
believer wrote:
There is only ONE True GOD- YHWH.
2 words poga:
Taqiyya
Kitman
YES, Allah does allow lying YHWH does not.
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Perhaps now you are lying, or you have not actually read your bible.
Genesis Chapter 27 goes into detail of how Rebecca and Jacob had to lie and scheme to save what would be the great "Israel" through theft. This is due to the Torah's description of a completely incompetent Issac who could not tell the difference between the back of his hand or his rear end. This supposed lack of common sense of such a man of God is problematic and places doubt on the historicity on the Torah and is further evidence that the Torah is only interest in bolstering the the clans of the southern kingdom, as opposed to the northern kingdom of Israel.
God (in your bible) condones the lying that took place to "steal" another man's inheritance. You cannot rationaly justify it by making it out to be "good, wholesome, Christin lying", vs the every day run of the mill lying, without committing the fallacy of special pleading. The last time I checked, Allah does not allow theft, nor the theft of anothers rightfully gained inheritance.
------------- A feeling of discouragement when you slip up is a sure sign that you put your faith in deeds. -Ibn 'Ata'llah
http://www.sunnipath.com
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/
http://www.pt-go.com/
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 12:38pm
believer wrote:
performed by Allah? |
Hi,
As a believer in the Quran, and what I understand from it, every act of God is Great, there is none that are not so great. That is unlike Judeo-Christian Bible, where God sometimes need to repent for what He intends (read Jonah 3:10).
But to answer your question, in my opinion and understanding it is the guidance (the Word of God) and the ability He gave to each one of us to benefit from it. This is because of His love for us. And thus for you "The Geatest act of Love".
He guaranteed our salvation and success if we truthfuly use them both.
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 10:45am
Is Taqiyya and Kitman in the Quran? Or is it hadith?
LOL! Andalus- finish the story. Here is a link to it in a nutshell:
http://www.childrenstory.info/biblestoryforchild/chdbbljacobandesau.html - http://www.childrenstory.info/biblestoryforchild/chdbbljacob andesau.html
Rebekah thought she was doing the right thing by sending Jacob away so he and Esau would not harm each other. Little did Rebekah know that sending Jacob away "for a while" would turn out to be twenty years!
Nor did she know that she would never see him again; Rebekah died before Jacob returned. Imagine how much happier their family could have been if they had trusted God to follow through with his plan.
We are often impatient and think that we need to help God along. True, we should simply just sit around waiting for God to do his thing. We do need to be careful about pushing and doing what we think is God's will. Many times God surprises us in showing us what he has planned. Let's keep our eyes and mind open to God's possibilities.
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 2:03pm
Rebekah thought she was doing the right thing by sending Jacob away so he and Esau would not harm each other.
Believer, you have not been able to answer the question of andalus. There had been a clear case of cheating the prophet of God i.e. Issac by his own wife and son. How could that be true. I have visited the site mentioned by you. But that is just like a novel.
That is like doing a bad thing and then trying to justify it. It is very clear that Issac was cheated. He was going to do the right thing, i.e. giving the blessings to his eldest son Essau. But the matter was cleverly (very cleverly and rather shamefully) snatched away from the rightful heir.
This is nothing to do with any christian. It only concern the Jews. But the christians are also tied up with it through the king David who killed an innocent man (Commander) and snatched his wife. What are all these things in the sacred books of Jews and christians about their ancestors !!
We Muslims do not believe that any such thing happened. So our minds are at rest and we do not blame Rebeka or Jacob. But the material is there in bible OT and knowing that, the believer should not please talk about Kitman. He should look after his books in which clear lies are being told and cheating is done to snatch the spiritual inheritance.
The answer given by believer is worse than the crime committed by the elders in the books.
------------- If any one is bad some one must suffer
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 7:25am
minuteman - this story has to do with everyone, it is an example for us to not follow. Deception, lying- ALWAYS has a price! Lying is against the GOD of truth.
I am sorry I am not better at explaining it to you
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 15 April 2008 at 3:32pm
believer wrote:
performed by Allah? |
Forgiveness, for those who seek and ask for it.
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 15 April 2008 at 11:15pm
believer wrote:
minuteman - this story has to do with everyone, it is an example for us to not follow. Deception, lying- ALWAYS has a price! Lying is against the GOD of truth.
I am sorry I am not better at explaining it to you
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But you are looking for lies in the Quran and Muhammad. Muhammad never allowed any one to lie. He preached that every one uphold the truth even before a tyrant king. He told every one not to cheat. Cheating is also bad. Specially in religous and spiritual matters. Let us all be careful in future please.
------------- If any one is bad some one must suffer
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 16 April 2008 at 2:50pm
yes honeto- very good one.
066.002 YUSUFALI: Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths (in some cases): and Allah is your Protector, and He is Full of Knowledge and Wisdom. PICKTHAL: Allah hath made lawful for you (Muslims) absolution from your oaths (of such a kind), and Allah is your Protector. He is the Knower, the Wise. SHAKIR: Allah indeed has sanctioned for you the expiation of your oaths and Allah is your Protector, and He is the Knowing the Wise.
Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857:
Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba:
That she heard Allah's Apostle saying, "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar."
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 17 April 2008 at 6:48pm
Hi beleiver,
good idea to use more than one translation, less chance for a mistake, also you are able to see three different minds interpreting the same. Any reason you chose those three, as there are many others, just wondering.
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: Rukkaiyah
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 8:26am
Alahmdullilah!
Subhanallah!
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Posted By: Rukkaiyah
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 9:28am
Posted By: robin
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 1:08am
believer wrote:
performed by Allah? |
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 20 June 2008 at 5:39pm
Robin,
can you stand behind that claim of yours, of Jesus(pbuh) being 'the Only Son'.
Or is it not so and God has more sons according to the same Bible.
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: robin
Date Posted: 26 July 2008 at 12:01pm
honeto wrote:
Robin,
can you stand behind that claim of yours, of Jesus(pbuh) being 'the Only Son'.
Or is it not so and God has more sons according to the same Bible.
Hasan |
The only thing he, God, directly created was Jesus, all other things were created via Jesus as his, that is God's "master worker":-
Proverbs 8:27-31
When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, 28 when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be strong, 29 when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth, 30 then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time, 31 being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men.
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Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 29 July 2008 at 2:40am
The human sacrifice is forbidden. Since Allah asked Abraham to sacrifice his most beloved thing and he tried and tried until it occurred to Abraham that the most beloved was the son (Ishmael), the son of old age. So he got ready to sacrifice his most beloved only son. But God stopped him.
That was a lesson forever for the mankind that there should never be any human sacrifice.
Jesus was also a human. How could God allow the sacrifice of Jesus (supposed to be the son of God) when God had previously disallowed Abraham to sacrifice his first born most beloved only son? The killing of Jesus on cross means that GOd had changed His plans.??
------------- If any one is bad some one must suffer
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Posted By: myahya
Date Posted: 29 July 2008 at 3:32am
Proverbs 8:27-31
When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he
decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, 28 when he made firm
the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be
strong, 29 when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves
should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth,
30 then I came
to be beside him as a master worker, and
I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before
him all the time, 31 being glad at the productive land of his earth, and
the things I was fond of were with the sons of men.
Robin: The only thing he, God, directly created was Jesus,
all other things were created via Jesus as his, that is God's "master
worker"
Proverbs 8:27-31 do not prove what you claimed. However, these verses
really interest me again. Two questions:
1-
Who is the speaker here? Isa
a.s.?
2-
Who are the sons of men, with whom
was the delight of the speaker?
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Posted By: Rukkaiyah
Date Posted: 29 July 2008 at 4:57am
So, If God created Jesus why do christians believe in the Trinity? Why would god need to create himself?...Doesn't make sense to me.
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Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 30 July 2008 at 7:37am
robin is writing that God so much loved the mankind that He gave his only son...
That is no way of love. Even today, nobody would give there any son to die for the sins of the sinners. The christians believe that it is the act of love and that fatherly relation is the greatest... Not so. Allah is well above that relation. It is an old and minor way of describing the love. There used to be like that in the old ages in old scriptures and the word for father in Arabic is Abb. That has some indication for love.
But is the GOd the father of all men? Is He the father of Jesus only? What about his other creation?
The animals and abstract things? The stars and galaxies, the ideas and elements? How about love of God for those things?
The Quran has given the right answer for that. It has described that Allah is the Lord (Rabb) of all creation. He is Al-Rehman (Merciful for all living bodies, man and animal, plants etc, believers or unbelievers, alike). He is the Al-Raheem (The Meciful for the believing mankind only, Hindus, christians, Jews and Muslims whoever believes in Allah and prays to Him).
Above all that, He is is the Maalik of the day of judgement. He is not a judge but the owner (Maalik) of the day of judgement and He has very special mercy for His saints and Servants, prophets and Messengers whom He may reward as much as He likes.
Please note that the wrd Abb (father) is not needed any more. The word Rabb is in action which is for all Creation. Rabb is the one who created everything, then looked after it and then showed to it the way to progress and perfection. He is Rabb not only for the Muslims but He is Rabb for all animal kind, diseases, rusts and dusts, typhoons, oceans, galaxies, plants, cures, technologies. ideas, all living or dead matter. He is Rabb for the souls and bodies.
The christians should please pay attention to the description of the God given in the very beginning of the first chapter in Quran. The general attribute of Allah is Rabb. The word Abb is no more in use now. Rabb is much more superior to Abb (father).
------------- If any one is bad some one must suffer
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Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 01 August 2008 at 9:38am
Greatest act of love..well at the moment, after a tough workout.. it is a toss up between ice and ibuprofen
------------- When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 2:42pm
robin wrote:
honeto wrote:
Robin,
can you stand behind that claim of yours, of Jesus(pbuh) being 'the Only Son'.
Or is it not so and God has more sons according to the same Bible.
Hasan |
The only thing he, God, directly created was Jesus, all other things were created via Jesus as his, that is God's "master worker":-
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Robin,
can you answer my simple question, can you stand behind your claim of Jesus being the Only son of God?
And that this statement is without contradiction to the rest of Bible? Let us be objective.
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 25 October 2008 at 12:21pm
LOL! http://www.islamicity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=57884&FID=7 - Anatolian - God didn't create himself!!
------------- John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 11 November 2008 at 6:14pm
Robin,
you have answer to my question?
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: Nazarene
Date Posted: 23 November 2008 at 12:07pm
the greatest act of love.
to live for god. and to live for your fellow man.
------------- love for all conquers all
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Posted By: goodguy
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 5:21am
Nazarene wrote:
the greatest act of love.
to live for god. and to live for your fellow man. |
I think this is very nicely summarized! This is truly a great act of love.
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 24 November 2008 at 6:25pm
Nazarene wrote:
the greatest act of love.
to live for god. and to live for your fellow man. |
If you guys are lost, I think the original question was:
what is the greatest act of love performed by Allah?
Hasan
------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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Posted By: Nazarene
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 4:33am
honeto wrote:
Nazarene wrote:
the greatest act of love.
to live for god. and to live for your fellow man. |
If you guys are lost, I think the original question was:
what is the greatest act of love performed by Allah?
Hasan | you know your right! lol . i didn't realize.i just jump in head first
so then, the greatest act of love allah gave and contiues to give is all about us . the whole of eveything itself.
------------- love for all conquers all
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