End of the World
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Topic: End of the World
Posted By: Nasir
Subject: End of the World
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 12:48pm
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Is it true on some islamic sites where they come up with the number 1710 AH, the number of lunar years earth will survive considered true? It is said that in the 2015 the world will end, according to some mathematical calculations, and number taken from the quran, the world will end in 2015, hence the number 20:15, a verse in the quran.
read about it..
I say, only the almighty ALLAH knows when its coming, and I hope its not soon, with all the wars going, and the smoke which is a sign, meaning pollution. ICE CAPS are predicted to be melted entirely by 2010, and one of god's verse is that the world will end mostly by water, hence the sea levels growing.
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Posted By: semar
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 5:17pm
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Salam,
In my humble opinion, I think this is just "trash" bro. ------------- Salam/Peace, Semar "We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) "1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air" |
Posted By: seekshidayath
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:07pm
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As'Salamu Alaikum,
Don't go for reading such articles / sites. No true muslim predicts a date/ year. Its only Allah swt who knows about when the Last day shall be. Yes, we are told the signs of last day and we see most of them are almost happened except few major signs left.
------------- Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent." |
Posted By: Nasir
Date Posted: 26 June 2008 at 7:16pm
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Thank You my brother, it is only The Almighty (Allah) who knows! You know, these past couple of days I have started to pray and I suddenly stopped swearing, having an eye for women, and my heart feels so open and bright. I have not made fun of anyone, and sometimes I feel like crying when I read the Qu'ran... thank you brothers/sisters, thank you. Thank you allah for giving me a chance of being a muslim. haha, I feel like shouting it really loud infront of the world "I am a muslim" |
Posted By: robin
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 3:25pm
This planet will never be destroyed says Allah:-
Ecclesiastes 1:4
A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite.
Psalm 78:69
And he began to build his sanctuary just like the heights, Like the earth that he has founded to time indefinite.
Psalm 104:5
He has founded the earth upon its established places; It will not be made to totter to time indefinite, or forever.
Psalm 119:90
Your faithfulness is for generation after generation. You have solidly fixed the earth, that it may keep standing.
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Nasir wrote:Posted By: Nasir
Date Posted: 28 June 2008 at 10:01pm
Thankyou Robin, I respect your religion, but I take the path of Islam and believe nothing but the word of the Quran (the words of ALLAH).
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Posted By: robin
Date Posted: 30 June 2008 at 9:15am
Then you need to look at the following:-
THE QUR'AN' TESTAMENT ON THE BIBLE !! (Numbers Sura & verse) Su 4:163 We have sent thee Inspiration, as We sent it To Noah and the Messengers After him: We sent Inspiration to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob And the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, And to David We gave The Psalms 164 Of some apostles We have Already told thee the story; Of others we have not;- And Moses God spoke direct;- 165 Apostles who gave good news As well as warning, That mankind, after (the coming) Of the apostles, should have No plea against God: For God is Exalted in Power, ALL Muslims Must Believe The all the Apostles including Paul according to the Qur'an? 2:87 We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of Apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an Apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride? --Some ye call impostors, and others ye slay! 2:253 Those apostles we endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honor); to Jesus the son of Mary we gave Clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after Clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah fulfilleth His plan. 2:285 The Apostle believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His apostles. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His apostles." And they say "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys." 3:3 It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the Criterion (of judgement between right and wrong). 4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Apostle, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Apostle and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Apostles, and the Day of Judgement, hath gone far, far astray. 4:150 Those who deny God And His apostles, and (those Who) wish to separate God from His apostles, Saying: "We believe in some But reject others": And (those who) wish To take a course midway,-152 To those who believe In God and His apostlesAnd make no distinction Between any of the apostles, We shall soon give Their (due) rewards: For God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. 4:165 Apostles who gave good news as well as warning that mankind, after (the coming) of the apostles, should have no plea against Allah: For Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise. 5:13 Allah did aforetime take a Covenant from the Children of Israel, and We appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: If ye (but) establish regular Prayers, practice regular Charity, believe in My apostles, honor and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to Gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path of rectitude." 5:71 Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith. The Bible held in high esteem as being true and accurate!! Surahs: 2:38, 83, 91, 95; 3:2; 4:50; 6:34, 115; 10:65; 18:25; 45:19; |
Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 01 July 2008 at 7:06am
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Robin, you have given three verses of chapter 4 as follows: Su 4:163 We have sent thee Inspiration, as We sent it To Noah and the Messengers After him: We sent Inspiration to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob And the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, And to David We gave The Psalms 164 Of some apostles We have Already told thee the story; Of others we have not;- And Moses God spoke direct;- 165 Apostles who gave good news As well as warning, That mankind, after (the coming) Of the apostles, should have No plea against God: For God is Exalted in Power, I do not know from where you have taken the translation. But there are variations / diversions and translation is not exact, at least it is misguiding. Please see the right translation below because you had used the wrong words to translate the words Nabiyyeen and rasool and Rusul. See the three verses below with very little change made therein for your guidance. And please note that Wahi is not inspiration. And messengers are not apostles. Su 4:163 We have sent thee Revelation (Wahi), as We sent it To Noah and the prophets After him: We sent Revelation to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob And the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, And to David We gave The Psalms. 164 Of some messengers We have Already told thee the story; Of others we have not;- And Moses God spoke direct;- 165 Messengers who gave good news As well as warning, That mankind, after (the coming) Of the messengers, should have No plea against God: For God is Exalted in Power, ------------- If any one is bad some one must suffer |
Posted By: seekshidayath
Date Posted: 01 July 2008 at 5:49pm
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Yes, he has quoted wrong verses. They are not from the Qura'n. Another tactic of theirs. FOt instance i checked last two verses of 5th chapter.
He pasted this verse :
5:13 Allah did aforetime take a Covenant from the Children of Israel, and We appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: "I am with you: If ye (but) establish regular Prayers, practice regular Charity, believe in My apostles, honor and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to Gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path of rectitude." Which in Qur'an is13. So, because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them and made their hearts grow hard. They changed the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them. But forgive them and overlook (their misdeeds). Verily, Allah loves the doers of good.)
And an other verse which he pasted was
5:71 Say: "O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith. Which is like this one in the holy Qur'an
71. They thought there will be no Fitnah (trial or punishment), so they became blind and deaf; after that Allah turned to them (with forgiveness); yet again many of them became blind and deaf. And Allah is the All-Seer of what they do.) Allah reminds that He took the covenant and pledges from the Children of Israel to hear and obey Him and His Messenger. They broke these pledges and covenants and followed their lusts and desires instead of the law, and whichever part of the law they agreed with, they took it. Otherwise, they abandoned it, if it did not conform to their desires
Remember Robin, every muslim shall say the same as brother Nasir says - "
Thankyou Robin, I respect your religion, but I take the path of Islam and believe nothing but the word of the Quran (the words of ALLAH)."
------------- Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent." |
Posted By: Nur_Ilahi
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 6:01am
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Thankyou Robin, I respect your religion, but I take the path of Islam and believe nothing but the word of the Quran (the words of ALLAH).
Salam brother Nasir,
Alhamdulillah. The more we are grateful to Allah, the more blessings we will get from Him.
Stay put in your Islamic faith, the True Religion of God Almighty.
As to the end of the earth, one of the signs is the emergence of Dajjal who has only one eye. I had read alot about Zionism, Illuminati, The New World Order and these people really worship Dajjal. They have human sacrifice as an offering to their God Dajjal. Astaghfirullah!
The Zionists have a lot of power and they even could create tsunamis that destroyed part of South East Asia and the latest one is the earthquake in China.
Now, war can be created with just using a remote control.
Qiyamah is indeed not far. We do not have to bother when it will happen, but take care that we die in iman and Islam.
------------- Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention. |
Posted By: afeefa
Date Posted: 04 July 2008 at 4:02am
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quran:chapter 5 Al MAIDAH; verse:77 "say:"O people of the Book!exceed not in your religion the bounds(of what is proper),trespassing beyond the truth,nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by-who mislead many, and strayed (themselves)from the even way!" verse:86 "and those who reject faith and belie our signs- they shall be companions of hell fire." translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali |
Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 5:55am
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http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/ - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/ Robin - I have been directed to the above site- there is still questions though to the correct translation of the Quran.
check out:
http://books.google.com/books?id=227GhaeKYl4C&pg=PP1&dq=inauthor:Christoph+inauthor:Luxenberg&sig=6yS7kWa4d5ksPwr5vriYzlkKL1s#PPA9,M1 - http://books.google.com/books?id=227GhaeKYl4C&pg=PP1&dq=inauthor:Christoph+inauthor:Luxenberg&sig=6yS7kWa4d5ksPwr5vriYzlkKL1s#PPA9,M1
http://www.syriacaramaicquran.com/gpage3.html - http://www.syriacaramaicquran.com/gpage3.html
------------- John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 5:57am
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005.013 This is not talking about the written words and that they changed them in writing, but have twisted the meanings in their minds. If the Quran is talking about the written word isn't there a word for BOOK in arabic?
No scribe is mentioned as changing the written word. Are there arabic words for these thought?
The Dead Sea Scrolls show us that the writen words have not changed
------------- John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
Posted By: robin
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 1:00am
FROM http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/ - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/
004.163 004.164 004.165 I thought the Islam taught the the Quran never changed?
Thus The Bible is to be followed.
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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 5:48pm
Robin sorry to say it, but your Bible disagrees with you again:
Genesis 6:13 So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. Shall we call it an other contradiction of the Bible or will we will carve up some explaination? Hasan ------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62 |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 26 October 2008 at 6:05am
May Allah bless you for your personal Jihad - and ease your struggles. . . your delight with your discovery of Islam is contagious Bro. . . :) Just one thing tht popped into my mind, and I thought I'd add, for the benefit of non-muslim readers.
Islam is not a monastic religion - hence 'women' are not considered a devil's weapon of mass distraction . . . rather, its natural and acceptable for Men in Islam to have an 'eye' for women within marital boundaries.
Regards,
------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Al Qalam
Date Posted: 25 November 2008 at 10:42pm
| I remain convinced that The Quran has accurately described how the world will end; and the Quranic description is supported by modern science. Our sun will eventually undergo a "supernova" as it approaches its death. It will result in an expansion of the sun's circumference, causing temperatures on earth to soar, literally boiling our oceans and incinerating everything on land. Tremendous geological upheaval will occur before this mass incineration, simply because of the sun's increased electromagnetic activity prior to it going supernova. Scientifically, this event is far off into the future, and only Allah truly knows when the time will come. |
Posted By: Nazarene
Date Posted: 27 November 2008 at 6:33am
your signture sums it up!
thank you
leland ------------- love for all conquers all |
Posted By: robin
Date Posted: 14 February 2009 at 4:07am
God's Prophet Jesus said:-
John 14:6
Jesus said to him: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father (God/Allah) except through me.
John 17:17
Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word (The Bible) is truth.
Psalm 119:160
The substance of your word is truth, And every righteous judicial decision of yours is to time indefinite.
You reject the sayings of Jesus and use somthing he never said was to come, The Qur'an.
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Posted By: robin
Date Posted: 14 February 2009 at 4:38am
Not so when you understand what The Bible really means:-
Genesis 6:13
So God said to Noah, "I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them
and the earth.
Again you totaly neglect or do not understand the context:-
So what was "the earth" God was going to "destroy"?
Here it is:-
Genesis 11:1
Now all the earth* continued to be of one language and of one set of words**.
KJV Gen 11:1 And the wholeH3605 earthH776* wasH1961 of oneH259 language,H8193** and of oneH259 speech.H1697 *Strong's Hebrew Dictionary No. 776 ארץ 'erets eh'-rets From an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land): - X common, country, earth, field, ground, land, X nations, way, + wilderness, world.
**Footnote Or, "of one vocabulary." **Strong's Hebrew Dictionary No. 1697 דּבר dâbâr daw-bawr' From H1696; a word; by implication a matter (as spoken of) of thing; adverbially a cause: - act, advice, affair, answer, X any such (thing), + because of, book, business, care, case, cause, certain rate, + chronicles, commandment, X commune (-ication), + concern [-ing], + confer, counsel, + dearth, decree, deed, X disease, due, duty, effect, + eloquent, errand, [evil favoured-] ness, + glory, + harm, hurt, + iniquity, + judgment, language, + lying, manner, matter, message, [no] thing, oracle, X ought, X parts, + pertaining, + please, portion, + power, promise, provision, purpose, question, rate, reason, report, request, X (as hast) said, sake, saying, sentence, + sign, + so, some [uncleanness], somewhat to say, + song, speech, X spoken, talk, task, + that, X there done, thing (concerning), thought, + thus, tidings, what [-soever], + wherewith, which, word, work.
So Gen 11:1 in the context of God's mission for Noah etc. "the earth" in reffering to the whole of the human race as they had "one set of words" or "languange" so it is not talking of the planet it is speaking of humans!
Again scritpture taken out of context so as to misquote and mislead!
2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
So what will be "destroyed"? The ontext reveals; which you again totaly neglect, very unscholerly and shows lake of any depth of true understanding of what Tye Bible realy says!
Here in Ch. 3 Peter draws a paralle with the flood of Noah's day (as above) and says:-
2 Peter 3:5-7
For, according to their wish, this fact escapes their notice, that there were heavens from of old and an earth standing compactly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and by those [means] the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water. 7 But by the same word the heavens and the earth that are now are stored up for fire and are being reserved to the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly men.
Then the planet during the flood was not destroyed, only humans that God considered to be wicked thus, Peter here shows the God will do the same thing again and bring about the "destruction of the ungodly men" NOT THIS PLANET, SO THIS PLANT WILL LAST FOREVER AS ALLAH SAYS. The way you use the Bible confirms to me that you do not even know what you are talking about what it come to The Bible! |