The Hereafter
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Topic: The Hereafter
Posted By: Friendship
Subject: The Hereafter
Date Posted: 14 September 2008 at 8:21am
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Assalamu'alaikum.
The month of Ramadan is the month of forgiveness. What I do not understand is the manner Allah is going to judge us with reference to how He dealt with previous generations. How can we enter paradise while our leaders are despots and tyrants who can not lead those they are governing in any of the five daily prayers do not preach?
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Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 10:51am
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The actions of your leaders (or lack thereof) should not effect your individual Imaan/Faith in Allah and Islam. And does not in anyway interfere with your actions, deeds and rewards. You will be judged (and sent to Heaven inshallah) based solely on your own actions and intentions. . . not on the actions of your leaders. Even if your leaders are not praying or preaching, there are other members of your community that do, even if they dont . . . you can.
Regards, ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 1:04pm
Surah 39 , Verse 7 (Az-Zumar):
. . . ."No bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another" . . . " ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Friendship wrote:Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:21pm
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Chrysalis.
You are quite right. But I do not meant that. Imagine what you did in Pakistan in electing your leader. If you participated in electing a leader who cannot stand in a mosque lead you in prayer and preach, who cannot judge in disputes according to the Sunna and the holy Qur 'an, how is going to lead you in the Hereafter. Please remember surah 17:71, 14:22; 34:32 etc. Compare yourself, and those who elected Abubakar, Umar, Usman and Ali? What is the diference betwen you and those who elected Nimrod or Pharaoh as a leader?.
Friendship.
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Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 6:02am
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First of all, your leader is not responsible for taking you to heaven or hell . . . and the crux of individual responsibility on your amaal i.e. actions is far greater than anything else. A person can have a great leader and still go to hell , or can have a corrupt leader and go to heaven. Individual Actions are the deciding factor.
The Prophet Muhammad already gave us guidance, and that is enough to 'lead' us to the hereafter, you have to do that, not your 'leader'.
Btw, Pharoah and Namrud were not elected leaders. ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 28 September 2008 at 2:14pm
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Assalamu alaikum. Let us be practical and not theoretical since we have lessons and warnings before us. The Old Testament is very clear on election of leaders and I believe this is also in our Sunna. Since you are in Pakistan you should tell us who you voted for and whether that was according to the Sunna or not. I do not vote for any party in my country for those contesting are not qualified according to the Sunna to lead believers. Allah will not call me to account in helping tyrants and illiterate leaders (who do not know the Sunna of the holy Prophet) in the Hereafter. The Qur 'an is clear on this and Dr. Abdulkareem Zaidani wrote commentary and quoted Sufyan Thauri saying that a Zalim (tyrant) and an illiterate Muslim ruler should be given water to drink if one sees him dying of thirst. He explained Zulm as putting something not in its proper place. What system will they establish: Mulk Nabwiyy, Mulk Siyasi or Mulk Tabi'iyy. Which of the three will lead one to Paradise? The name of the Book is Sunanun Uluhiyya. Friendship.
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Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 03 October 2008 at 8:50pm
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Ok, since you are insistent in knowing who I voted for; I didnt vote for anyone, since I wasnt in Pakistan during the elections. . . and I dont care for any particular politicians at the moment.
However, Had I voted, I would have chosen the lesser of all evils. . . (maybe Imran Khan . . .)
I still dont see thru ur last post, how worrying about good leaders is more important than focusing on individual imaan.
Also, by focusing on your imaan, you can actually achieve something, and increase possibilities of Jannah. Fretting about ur current leaders will take you nowhere, since you cant do anything about it - but fret. ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 04 October 2008 at 3:15am
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Assalamu alaikum. Now you have understood me. You see, I am a professional - a doctor -and you know that we do not break rules, procedures and guidelines unless the case is obscure. At that time one can have an opinion. This is what Islam is also about, I believe. If you had read Maududis commentary of the holy Qur'an and other books written by Muslim jurists and scholars on what the Qur'an and the Sunna says on how to elect leaders and that if that is actually the Shari'a, then the question of choosing the lesser evil does not even arise. I mean I cannot use tap water to give a drip to a dehydrated patient nor to use a razor blade to open up the abdomen of a patient! If rules and regulations in sciences and associations are to be complied then it is impossible for me to claim not understanding what Allah said in Qur'an, "But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhamamd) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission:. Again Allah said, "We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered". Equally, no one can say there is another interpretation or meaning other than what i believed is clear and should have no other interpretation. Or do you know of any abrogation? Can the holy Prophet rule against such clear injunctions? This is a few of what I read by the Muslim scholars and jurits. Imam Ahmad (d. 241 AH) in his book Usul Sunna (item 28-32) on Afdalul Nas, the Amirul Mu'min, said"...Observing the Friday Prayer with him as your Imam and also behind anyone he appoins as an Imam). Imam Mawardi (d. 450 A.H)said so in his Book Ahkaamal Sultaniyya P. 131. Ibn Taymiyya in his book Minhaj Sunnatu Nabwiyy Vol.1 PP.114,115,509,510,525,558 said, ' Obedience to a leader is not an open space without traffic controllers. Obedience is only to the one who has the qualities and abilitys to lead the Umma. He is to be obeyed only if he obeys Allah'. This is also in Exodus 31. Al-Jawziyya in his Book I'laamul Muwaqqi'iin An Rabbi Alamiin V.3 p.145 said, 'Ash-Shari' commanded obedience of one Imam in Imaamat Kubra who leads in Id Prayers and Juma'at. Istisqaa' and Hawf'. Imam Zuhra in his Book Taarih Mazaahibul Siyaasa p.78 also mentioned the Imam Kubra leading the prayers. The problem is that the Muslim Umma have separated politics from Islam. Siyaasa is a jewish word originally not an Arabic word. They (Jews) said, 'Saasahum Anbiyaa uhum' in Arabic 'Ra iyyaa'. Aliyu Ahmad Kafuri in his book the battle of Badr p.104, said, 'Whoever separates Ad-diin from Siyaasa has indeed dislodged himself fromIslam'.
I hope you understand my approach. I want know the truth so that I can enter paradise, but not to be engaged in polemics and unnecessary controversies against the Sunna. I hope you read what Abdullah ibn Umar said in Mubaahith fii 'Ulumal Qur'an by Qattani or Dr. Sabhi, that 'one letter of the Qur'an is a warning to one that he should fear Allah'. So I do not believe in argument because that one letter that convinced me to fear Allah may not have convinced you to fear Allah. So out of the 340,000 letters, one should look for the one to convince him to fear Allah so that we do not argue on the Sunna!. I cannot disregard what I know and is accepted universally for something else. Do we have such standards in the Sunna of Muhammad? Then why for example should the Saudi do the Id Fitr when the moon scientifically did not appear and people followed them? We do not follow the mistakes of our professors in Medicine. But a ward attendant has the right to show him his mistakes and he must correct them. We do not se thsis in the Umma.
You see, I contested for the presidency of my country on the basis of what I read from my Books qualifying me. I lead the juma'a prayer in the hospital mosque and the peole knew about it. But look at the Muslim intellectuals they did not support my candidature, while none of those contesting know Islam and the Shari'a more than me. I preached in the media using my own resources. So, I did not vote for the least of the evils, becaus the holy Qur'an is clear on this on so many verses that I do not have to quote. Please advice me of what to do to enter paradise. I am on my own as you said because this is what the holy Prophet said one should when the Umma are aversed to his Sunna. You know that during the fitnat ibn Umar and ibn Abbas all retired to makka and Madina. You know also what ibn Taymiyya and Al-Ghazali, Abdulqadir Zailani, Nuruddeen salahuddin etc, did. Do not join the evil society! This chapter is closed.
Friendship.
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