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Topic: Ibn Sa'd's said?
Posted By: believer
Subject: Ibn Sa'd's said?
Date Posted: 30 November 2008 at 6:41am
�O Muhammad, thou art the Messenger of God, and I am Gabriel.�

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John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.



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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 30 November 2008 at 6:50am
In another thread I was trying to find out why an angel and not GOD spoke to Mohammad and how the angel introduced himself.  The reply was:
 
�O Muhammad, thou art the Messenger of God, and I am Gabriel.� He raised his eyes heavenwards and there was his visitant, still recognizable but now clearly an Angel, filling the whole horizon, and again he said: �O Muhammad, thou art the Messenger of God, and I am Gabriel.� The Prophet stood gazing at the Angel; then he turned away from him, but whichever way he looked the Angel was always there, astride the horizon, whether it was to the north, to the south, to the east or to the west. Finally the Angel turned away, and the Prophet descended the slope and went to his house.
I am trying to figure out where this info came from. Who added: He raised his eyes heavenwards and there was his visitant, still recognizable but now clearly an Angel, filling the whole horizon, and again he said


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John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


Posted By: Hyposonic
Date Posted: 30 November 2008 at 4:50pm
Didn't Moses speak to an angel through a burning bush and not directly to God himself? Perhaps the angel was a mouthpiece a type of mediator between man and God.... As far as who mentioend what, you got me.

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"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 01 December 2008 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

In another thread I was trying to find out why an angel and not GOD spoke to Mohammad and how the angel introduced himself.  The reply was:
 
�O Muhammad, thou art the Messenger of God, and I am Gabriel.� He raised his eyes heavenwards and there was his visitant, still recognizable but now clearly an Angel, filling the whole horizon, and again he said: �O Muhammad, thou art the Messenger of God, and I am Gabriel.� The Prophet stood gazing at the Angel; then he turned away from him, but whichever way he looked the Angel was always there, astride the horizon, whether it was to the north, to the south, to the east or to the west. Finally the Angel turned away, and the Prophet descended the slope and went to his house.
I am trying to figure out where this info came from. Who added: He raised his eyes heavenwards and there was his visitant, still recognizable but now clearly an Angel, filling the whole horizon, and again he said
 
Dear Old friend,
you  are the one quoting and writing something, you should know where it came and who said it. And what is your purpose and question. That will be more fair to say.
Hasan


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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62



Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 12:29pm
Assalamu alaikum.

It was Ammar bin Yasir reporting what the holy Prophet told them. He was among the first Quraysh who accepted the much awaiting call to Monotheism as was then widely broadcasted by the Children of Israel.  His parents were brutally murdered by Abu Jahl.
Friendship


Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 07 December 2008 at 7:29am
LOL!!  honeto always trying to find fault with me. Ibn Sa'd- Is he a trusted hadith writter?
 
 


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John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 08 December 2008 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by believer believer wrote:

LOL!!  honeto always trying to find fault with me. Ibn Sa'd- Is he a trusted hadith writter?
 
 
 
no my friend I am not looking your faults as I have many of my own, for which I seek Allah's forgiveness. I was saying that only because, you quoted something without any referance, and asked a question. It would have been more clear if you have given some referance to it. So those of us who are not fimiliar with this know where to look!
Hasan


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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62



Posted By: TruthRealm
Date Posted: 09 December 2008 at 11:07pm
First, an angel of the Lord appeared in the burning bush to get Moses' attention. Once Moses noticed that the bush was not being consumed, he began to investigate. Once God saw that he was attentive and not running away, he begin to speak to Moses directly from the burning bush. 

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      �Moses dragged us for 40 years through the desert to bring us to the one place in the Middle East where there was no oil.� -Golda Meir



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