What do you like about Islam?
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Topic: What do you like about Islam?
Posted By: Chrysalis
Subject: What do you like about Islam?
Date Posted: 01 January 2009 at 9:36pm
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I would like to hear from our non-Muslim brothers and sisters - if there is anything/any aspect about Islam that appeals to them, or they like. We dont neccassarily have to believe in it, but sometimes there are things about other religions, that we like or sound good to us.
So what is it about Islam, that you like? To make the discussion more interesting, you can also tell stuff that interests you about Islam / makes you curious. . .
So go ahead, pl share. ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
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Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 02 January 2009 at 4:40pm
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I like this verse. I think Mohammad understood that Jesus was the way. Was Mohammad originally a Christian? LOL! Or if the Quran is really GOD's word then all Muslims have disregarded this most important verse!! They have added more to the meaning then what is truly there.
------------- John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
Posted By: Saladin
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 1:07am
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Man... you are persistent! Pls tell me, what do you believe... In what you want to believe or in that which is the truth?
------------- 'Trust everyone but not the devil in them' |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 12:02pm
Or maybe Jesus was a Muslim . . . and if you believe in him Believer, maybe you should be one too? how about that? :) Jesus paved the way for Muhammad to complete the message - thats what Muslims believe.
The discussion isnt exactly going where I thought it would. But okay, lets assume this is the "part" about Islam that you like...this verse. In an attempt to steer back to the topic.
So what part of this verse tells you that Muhammad was a Christian? This verse tells us how Allah saved Jesus from crucifiction, and told him that he would clear him of those that blaspheme (i.e. call Jesus divine, or God's son.)
And by 'those who follow thee' Allah is referring to those who follow Jesus's message, which would mean - Muslims. Who are better 'christians' today, than the christians themselves - no disrespect. We worship the One True God, give Jesus his due respect as a Prophet/Messenger, believe in his prophecy of Muhammad, and avoid all the things he asked us to (idol worship, adultery, pork, alcohol, etc etc )
So. . . anyone has anything relevant to the topic perhaps?  ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
believer wrote:Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 7:04pm
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No I asked - Was Mohammad originally a Christian?
LOL!! You sound pretty sure of yourself!! LOL!! when you say-
"And by 'those who follow thee' Allah is referring to those who follow Jesus's message, which would mean - Muslims. Who are better 'christians' today, than the christians themselves - no disrespect. We worship the One True God, give Jesus his due respect as a Prophet/Messenger, believe in his prophecy of Muhammad, and avoid all the things he asked us to (idol worship, adultery, pork, alcohol, etc etc )"
LOL!! Guess what! We do worship the One True GOD. Now that is something I hate about Islam- you judge and do not accept a different perception Of GOD, you limit Him into a tiny cubby and say He can not be more than what YOU say He is!! LOL!! Our perception of GOD is different but it is the same GOD.
Rituals and outward appearances will not make you holy.
Matthew 22:34-40 34Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question:
36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." By the way that is hugely disrepectful, sick and yes obscene saying that you are better christians-Muslims do not accept the huge momentous sacrifice given by Jesus, part of GOD's plan to be a gift of grace for us.
It is nice knowing that this is in your Quran about the followers of Jesus!! There is always hope that Muslims may some day get the jist of the message. ------------- John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
Posted By: believer
Date Posted: 03 January 2009 at 7:04pm
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saladin I believe in the truth. ------------- John 3 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
Posted By: Hyposonic
Date Posted: 04 January 2009 at 6:39pm
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I like some of the pragmatic aspects of Islam. Unfortunately, from a philosophical-scientific standpoint, Islam is ideological like Christianity, therefore does not exist to me. ------------- "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" |
Posted By: Hunter
Date Posted: 04 January 2009 at 9:50pm
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I like its simplicity-- it's a relatively uncomplicated, or pragmatic (as Hyposonic said) religion without a lot of bizarre rituals. I think it's also one of the most inclusive religions-- anyone can be Muslim regardless of age, race, gender, nationality or prior religious history. Its primary religious text, the Holy Quran is very readable, easy to understand, and because it was obviously authored by one person, it has a continuity the Bible lacks.
------------- "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"-- DrDre |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 4:43am
Would you like to share more? we'd like to know.
------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 4:58am
I didnt realise it was an actual question, sorry about that. Muslims believe that Muslims/Islam has been there since the time of Adam. However, the 'label' wasnt common until after Muhammad (sws). So before the Quran was revealed, Prophet Muhammad believed in the monothiestic Abrahamic religion, revealed upon his predeccessors including Jesus. So he did believe in Jesus. However he was not originally a Christian, since he did not worship/consider Jesus divine or nauzubillah God's son.
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Nowhere did I or any muslim say you Christians dont believe in God. You proabably do, alhamdulilah. Thats good enough. We have the same God. However, the difference b/w us is that we stop at worshipping God, and dont go beyond that. But I shall stop here, since this thread was not supposed to be about differences. I hope that corrected your misunderstanding. I agree that ours is the same God, and that our perceptions differ grossly.
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Let me rephrase what I said, since it offended you. Sorry about that. Muslims are better christians than most christians out there. Not all. Come on, really, how many practising Christians are there? Only believing in Christ doesnt make you a Christian, you have to 'follow' his commandements in order to be his true follower. And we do follow his commands, or try to at the least. Thats all I am saying.
------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Saladin
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 8:09am
Well, the truth according to the Quran is - O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendant majesty that He should have a son.....(4:171). [0]If you cant believe in this, you should as well stop giving your twisted interpretations of the verses. Didnt Shasta make this clear in another thread? Yet you persistently keep buzzing around. ------------- 'Trust everyone but not the devil in them' |
Posted By: Hyposonic
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 6:41pm
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Islam is pragmatic to me because like Judaism, it begins to tackle some of the �real-world� problems such as finances, law, philosophy, religion. Islam appears to cover a wide range of social issues that humans face everyday. If you [chrysalis] would like examples I can find some for you. ------------- "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism" |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 5:21am
This is one of the reasons I like Islam too. . .
 I was just curious about the aspects others liked - to get the discussion going and for my own curiosity.------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: CSK001
Date Posted: 03 February 2009 at 11:49pm
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Hi, Thanks for sharing your ideas and views with us. I'm a new one in this forum. Please keep updating me. CSK |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 07 February 2009 at 1:39pm
| I find Islam simple yet complicated (if that makes sense). It affects every aspect of life. Muslims seem to be very devoted to their belief system and for the most part all on the same page. |
Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 10:37am
good thread... ------------- When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi |
Posted By: JihadX
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 12:44pm
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Salam, What do I like about Islam?
There is so much that I can talk about on this subject. I like how Islam is a complete religion. The Quran teaches everything and tells you how to behave, live, etc..
I like how there is much more unity in islam than in other religions.
Islam seems like the way for everyone and everyone should be muslim. ------------- �The knife that slaughtered the guards at Bagram and set us free is now on its way to other places,� _ The Mujahid, The Eminent, Sheikh Abu Yahya Al Libi |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 8:15pm
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Jazakallah for the contributions :)
Nick: makes sense! I think I know what u mean... its very simple and basic - but still covers many aspects in great detail and depth.
JihadX: Nice point you brought up, about the muslim unity. Despite having diverse backgrounds, races, ethnicities, geographies and language - Muslims all over the world feel a strong bond with each other. There is a hadith of the Prophet (in my own words) that the Muslim Ummah is like the human body, when one part hurts, the rest of the body feels the pain and cannot sleep. (I think I mixed up the hadith, but I hope the reader gets the point)
------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Nazarene
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 3:43pm
peace to all
i truely believe you believe .
why else would you read the qu'ran so much!!
it makes me happy, thank you!
love
leland ------------- love for all conquers all |
Posted By: Nazarene
Date Posted: 27 February 2009 at 3:50pm
PEACE!!
YOU EXIST !
 and i love you for it. and there is no compultion. so we let god have his way.
love leland ------------- love for all conquers all |
Posted By: BelieverInOne
Date Posted: 03 March 2009 at 4:31pm
| Assalaam alaikum I like that Islam is a way of life not only our religion. |
Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 04 March 2009 at 5:17pm
My friend,
why then deny it when it is made manifest to you?
Hasan ------------- The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62 |
Posted By: Servetus
Date Posted: 10 March 2009 at 4:18pm
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There are plenty of things I like and respect about Islam. Above all, I like Muslims, generally speaking, both individually and collectively (except the ones who put a fatwa on my and my saintly Christian mother�s heads for our sole crime of being Americans). Some of my best friends (but not awliyas, let it be clear, because I am at least nominally Christian I think, in general, that I like Islam because, to put it crudely, it is a sort of macho Christianity. Moreover, though it might sound unintentionally glib, when I first read the Quran, in English, of course, I thought that it sounded like the God of the Old Testament, the thundering, temperamental deity of Sinai, on anti-depressants. Gone, too, from the Quran, is the preoccupation with blood rites and rituals, so evidently favored by the followers of Moses. I could go on, but this is enough for now. Serv |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 11 March 2009 at 9:17am
Thankyou for the interesting viewpoints . . .
' Macho Christianity'  ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Nazarene
Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 3:40pm
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peace!
IT'S NOT AN INSTITUTION
------------- love for all conquers all |
Posted By: Pati
Date Posted: 10 April 2009 at 12:05pm
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What I like the most in muslims is their sense of commitment with their familly.
I feel that the Christians, we had it in old times, but we are loosing it because of our growing selfish.
Best regards
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Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 11 April 2009 at 8:48am
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Hello Pati! Nice to see you here. . . thankyou for your contribution. . .
Yes, Islam does stress a lot on family - and the muslim society still upholds the family structure.
However, I think that even with Christians, those who stick to thier faith - still have strong family bonds and values! ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Pati
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 1:56pm
You are right on that, the christians with an strong believe are still giving meaning to the word "family".
But the problem is that not much people are believing in this time. Now, the easiest thing is to keep away from religion, which means commitment, which means responsabilities, which means helping other people... we just keep thinking about ourselves and wanting to get more money, a better a car, a bigger house... but after all, nothing is having any value if you are alone.
The increasing rate of divorces in our society is the best example of that: in old times, my parents times, for instance, the meaning of the wedding was "together until death", but now, the meaning is just let's see what's up!! They get married just for the party, so the marriage has no meaning.
That's why in our society, it's much better to have a short convivence before marriage, and obviously to leave every point clear about everything (children, future expectatives, personal needs, etc...).
Nice to talk with you!
Regards
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Posted By: Nazleen
Date Posted: 27 July 2009 at 5:23am
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. Pati, well said.
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Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 28 July 2009 at 5:54am
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Hey Pati, It would be interesting to see the difference between say Europe and South America in terms of the concept of family. ------------- When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi |
Posted By: Pati
Date Posted: 29 July 2009 at 2:03pm
Hi Hayfa, I don't know if I am the right person to talk about this  The first thing I want to say, is that we have to make difference between educated people, and the rest of the people, the "mass". Educated people are developing a normal life, almost the same life we have here in Europe as europeans. The problem, in my opinion, is with the mass, people who didn't get to understand religion in the whole meaning, who only received a cultural heritage. In one side, they are very familiar, and really they are a united group... but at the end, they are more selfish than us. If you check out social rates in Latin American Countries, you will see that the rates of raping, girls pregnancies (even above 14 years old!!), neglecting, divorces, infidelities, etc... are the biggest all over the world. The worst part of all, is the related to rapes. On the other side, they are always with the word "God" in their mouths, but their way of living is not fitting with the believes. They missed something there. In Spain, due to languages matters, we have lot of immigrants from there, and those rates are increasing... raping, killing, drugs, etc. It's not only because of them, sure, but our society is spoiled because we were not able to assimilate the amount of immigrants we received, and they are changing our way of life. We can see it in the shops, where most of women clothes, for instance, are flashy dresses, too much opened (or better to say covering almost nothing...). They are drinking every day, and not only at home, even in parks or in the middle of the street. They are noisy, with loud music up to 3 or 4 in the morning... They are very problematic here, really. Another point, they are always fighting. The rate of infidelities between them is so high... it's very difficult to find an stable couple, who didn't betray each other... Their religious feeling is not Catholic, also. In Latinam�rica, most of the people belongs to sects, which are just telling them what to do and how much they are supposed to pay. They are listening to people who are supposed to talk in the name of God, but at the end, are asking for money everytime they do something, or just say something. They sell everything, and don't do anything free. This is very dangerous. About Europeans... well, as I already said, we are away from God. The churches are almost empty (except during Christmas and Easter). It's very sad, really, but at the same time, I feel that one day, it will change, and that day is not far from today. Socially, we are just being selfish, trying to avoid any commitment we may find in our way, or just doing the first thing we want to do, without thinking twice. Just following our feelings. I don't know if this answers you, I hope so. I apologize for my poor english, because I feel I am not able to say what I really want to say  Patricia ------------- No God wants the killing, but the peace. The weapons are carried by people, not by religions. |
Posted By: mohsin_mk
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 2:09am
Forget about what I like about Islam.. Tell me is there anything which can be hated about ISLAM ??  ------------- Warm Regards, Mohsin Khan Mumbai, India |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 16 September 2009 at 7:42am
Well, for us Muslims - naturally we all feel the same way as you Bro Mohsin. Alhamdulilaah. . . Our non-muslim brothers and sisters may feel differently ofcourse! Hence this topic for a change! So that we get to hear refreshingly different opinions for once, rather then the run-of-the-mill hate ones. ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: salahuddeen2009
Date Posted: 18 September 2009 at 5:41pm
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salam to all
I think what's UNIQUE &Peculiar about Islam as a religion & Belief is the FREEDOM that it gives to the human
In any other belief ,the human being should worship a creature in one way or another ,eg:in christianity you should worship ahuman(jesus as a God,by whatever way of his nature)&subsequently you should believe in the priests as the owners of the keys of the heavens,to let whoever they like enter,&close it in the faces of whoever objects against them,confession to the priests ,asking forgiveness for your sins is a remarkable sign of slavery to Humans in christianity
in Hinduism,every hindu should not just worship humans,but should also worship the animals which they believe that God came into this word incarnated in their forms(rats,elephants,cows,snakes...etc)!!one look to a cow walking in a street in a hindu - district will show you how such a religion puts humans(who are pioneers in computer,nuclear&medicine science) DOWN to be Slaves of Animals,this's apart from the social discrimination in such a religion ,dividing people(into MASTERS & SERVANTS) according to their Family Level
in atheism &judaism,it's something different,jews follow their leaders in worshipping their OWN DESIRES!!they are slaves of their own selfishness believing that you are the KING OF THE WORLD<SON OF GOD<THE CHOSEN ONE is the main principle in such beliefs,jews claimthat all this world with its creatures are just there to serve them,while atheists ARE SLAVES of their self-Pride,making their own minds as their Gods(They dnt believe except what they can see by their own eyes)
ISLAM MAKES US OBEY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS,NOT OUR OWN HUMAN DEFICIENT WAYS OF THINKING,ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL IN FRONT OF GOD,NO DISCRIMINATION OF ANY KIND
OUR SLAVERY TO GOD,AS MUSLIMS,FREES US FROM ALL OTHER KINDS OF SLAVERY PRACTISED IN OTHER RELIGIONS
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Posted By: Pati
Date Posted: 19 September 2009 at 1:28am
Hi Salahudeen, Sorry, but it's not true what you said. We believe in God, and we don't worship Jesus but as God. We are not told in the Bible to worship Him as person, but as God's Son and part of God. Actually, in the Bible it's condemned to worship images of people, as well as people themselves. Related to the priest, they are just like your imans, spreading the Word of God, but we are not told to obey them or to worship them. Just to respect. Actually, I am not much close to the teachings of some priest who are not following the Bible and God's teachings. Don't forget that the priest are people, and they are not perfect. They make mistakes, and they are sometimes as sinners as the rest of the people. But for us, they are not specials, just people. About confession... that's something I don't believe in because God knows everything we do and even, everything we want to do even if we finally didn't do it. The profits of the confession are that the Priest acts (or at least, they should do) like psychologist, trying to give good advices to the people. Actually, that's their origin: the people were having doubts about the things they were allowed and no allowed to do, so the Church established this confession as a way to help them with their doubts, as well as to bring them back the peace during their stay on Earth. Salams, Patricia ------------- No God wants the killing, but the peace. The weapons are carried by people, not by religions. |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 19 September 2009 at 11:26am
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JazakAllah for your participation Salahudeen, I hope you do not mind me saying this; but in the spirit of maintaining a pleasant dialogue - that has been going on so far (in this particular topic) . . . perhaps we should stay away from talking about other religions in a negative manner. The topic is 'What do you like about Islam' , not what you dislike about other religions. I hope you get what I mean. No offence intended brother. Looking forward to your positive contribution. ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: salahuddeen2009
Date Posted: 22 September 2009 at 3:58pm
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salam sisters Pati & Chrysalis
I never meant to speak bad about others,i just wanted to clarify what muslims have ,while others don't have
maybe the word slavery is a (shocking) one,i can better replace it by the word (being under control of,or worshipping)
we all submit to the control of one god or another in this life,whether a materialistic god(human god,animal god,stony god,selfdesires as a god) or we submit to Whom we as muslims chose(GOD THE ONE_THE UNSEEN ALMIGHTY ALLAH)
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Posted By: Yusuf Arief
Date Posted: 01 December 2009 at 1:16am
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Salam Chrysalis.
I must say I have enjoyed reading this thread and admire the way it has been responded to. For me, what do I like about Islam? In Islam I found myself again, I had gone through some pretty tough times, I was not born into Islam, and during the trials of life I faced, the religion I was born into did not offer me any comfort of any understanding towards the problems, I spent a few years "out" of religion feeling lost, and through my own quest assisted by some very close and wonderful friends, not all Muslim's I might add, I found my way and as I read the Qur'An and questioned, I found a comfort I had not experienced before, Islam is not just a religion, its a way of life, and as was mentioned earlier by some one in this thread, it goes further than just the worship of the one true God, but it instructs us and guides us to be better human beings regardless of what surrounds us My only problem is when people who speak as Muslims don't follow the guidelines, I found peace and beauty in Islam, and as such when I am asked, I try to show from my heart why I chose Islam I do not try to force my understanding or my belief by the hand anyway, that's what I like about Islam, it allowed me to be a better me, and it allowed me to find myself.
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Posted By: Yusuf Arief
Date Posted: 01 December 2009 at 1:30am
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Salahuddeen
are we not instructed in the Qur'An to save judgement? is it not written that even among the Christians there will be brothers and sisters who will enter into "heaven" Our part is not to judge another religion, but to understand it in a way that we are well informed when involved in debate, and it is every Muslim's duty to guide and teach and report the glory of Islam. we are not in position to judge another on their religious choices, Allah will be the judge of all, and we in turn will be judged with regard to our ability to teach and guide to the right path. |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 01 December 2009 at 9:42am
Wa'alaikum salaam Bro Yusuf, JazakAllah for you contribution. You are very right, Islam does gives us comfort and solace... it helps us grow into a better person. oh, and welcome to the forums! ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Yusuf Arief
Date Posted: 03 December 2009 at 8:23am
| Salam sister Chrysalis and thank you for your warm welcome. |
Posted By: cloud777
Date Posted: 07 October 2010 at 7:36pm
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Well it looks like this thread is really old, but I'm going to reply to it anyway. I see that there is a lot of communication from Christians on here, but not so much from Atheists. So, here I am with my comments.
So what do I like about Islam? Hmm, well I still much to learn but I know for sure that I like the architecture of Islamic Mosques. I've never been inside one yet, but I really want to see the inside sometime. I also like claigraphy, and the way the arabic script looks in the Qur'an. I am always attracted to languages that do not use roman letters. (I have studied and am now fluent in Japanese for this reason) Maybe it seems silly, but I also like the song "Who is the loved one" by Sami Yusuf. I listen to this song all the time.
Now I know those are all artistic / musical aspects to Islam, so I'll say something more regarding the religion itself. I admittedly have little experience interacting with Muslims on a daily basis, but from what I gather it seems that most Muslims are more serious about their religion than say, mainsteam Christians. I say this because it seems to me that Islam is a way of life. Today, Christitanty tends to brand itself more as a "relationship" with Jesus, and a one hour church service on your day off. But in Islam the practices seem so much more involved in the everyday lives of the people. The dress, and actions of a Muslim will often times give their religion away without discussing it, but that is not usually the case with a Christian.
I like the how Islam respects the original language of their holy text. It seems that people take the King James version of the Bible to be the "official" Bible, at least in the USA. People want to relate to something in English, and they care little for words in foreign languages. I like how Islam makes an effort to have all its follows know certain Arabic phrases and sentences. I think this really goes far in the global oneness of the religion. The Catholic religion had this aspect keeping the Mass in Latin only up until last century when that was abolished. I think that it lost something special at that point. I hope that Islam will always uphold and promote the original language of the Qur'an as it does today.
I like the idea of the Hajj. If I were Muslim I would want to go as soon as possible. It looks to be an amazing experience. I hope you all have a wonderful time when you go. ^_^
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Posted By: The absurd one
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 1:35am
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Well here's the opinion of an Agnostic, to be Islam seems to be a religion of education and social progress put back in the context of the Dark Ages. I like that mosques weren't meant to be just place of prayers but also place of educations where people learned to read and write, to count etc...
I like how it also set the basis of a social system (the mandatory social tax) and a jurisprudence (the Shari'a, although today it's not really a solid judicial system, was nevertheless a progress compared to the anarchy it replaced). |
Posted By: islamispeace
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 11:38am
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That was well-said Cloud777. Thank you.
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Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 24 October 2010 at 1:12am
That was a very interesting share cloud777! I enjoyed reading. Now I know those are all artistic / musical aspects to Islam, so I'll say something more regarding the religion itself.�[/Quote]
Muslims (especially the Persians, Arabs, Indians) were very fond of poetry. You should perhaps look that up, I think you'll enjoy it.
InshAllah! (God Willing) I too hope we retain all these parts of our identity.
Why thankyou! I have yet to go myself, only seen Hajj on TV and in pictures so far, I hope that inshAllah you too can go someday ^_^ ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 24 October 2010 at 1:24am
Thanks for sharing The Absurd One, Yes we Muslims were indeed progressive back in the "Dark Ages". I think at that time, Muslims were confident and independent - we embraced our identity/culture. We were broad-minded and had ambitions. Unfortunately for the past few centuries we have lost that touch - we are too used to feeling victimized now... we've had a tough time as well no doubt. I just hope we can redeem ourselves as a community - for many of us have lost the values that made us the civilization we once were. ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Thom01
Date Posted: 08 November 2010 at 2:18pm
Someone posted this response in another thread, and I found it quite appropriate to the founding premises of most legitimate religious endeavors ("religious," that is, within the meaning and context of the original definition of the word religiare which means "to bind back; to bind together"). I find little to argue with such statements when in comparison to other statements, such as the following uttered by Siddhattha Gotama: "Mind is the forerunner of all actions. All deeds are led by mind, created by mind. If one speaks or acts with a corrupt mind, suffering follows, as the wheel follows the hoof of an ox pulling a cart. "If one speaks or acts with a serene mind, happiness follows, as surely as one's shadow. " 'He abused me, mistreated me, defeated me, robbed me.' Harboring such thoughts keeps hatred alive. Releasing such thoughts banishes hatred for all time." Or: "Just as an arrowsmith shapes an arrow to perfection with fire, so does the wise man shape his mind, which is fickle, unsteady, vulnerable, and erratic." |
Posted By: irenemac
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 6:02am
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I don't know if "like" is the right word but I deeply respect and admire the focus and discipline and commitment of some within the Islamic faith. That it is more a way of life than a simple religion also appeals to me, since most religions are far more hypocritical in the way their faith is practiced. And with that I've posted my first post! Greetings everyone :) ------------- Irene Mckay |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 6:02pm
Thankyou Irene for those thoughts :) Yes Islam is what we call a "deen" in arabic. i.e. 'a way of life'. Not just a religion. In the Qur'an and Prophetic sayings (hadith) the word 'deen' is used quite a lot rather than 'religion'. Infact that is why it is hard to separate Islam from a (or most) Muslim's life (for those who would like us to live a secular lifestyle). For example, we are practicing Islam in little little things... such as, drinking water whilst sitting, or taking a break b/w sips and not chugging it down. Or washing our hands before a meal is also 'Sunnah' i.e. emulating Prophet Muhammad. All such acts become reward-worthy in Islam. Like collecting bonus points. So when some Muslims in the West, such as Oklahoma are fighting the anti-shariah bill - what they are saying is that it effects our daily lives and we find it difficult to divorce ourselves from many islamic aspects. There are many important aspects of a person's life that are impacted by their religion one of them is things like death & Wills. An anti-shariah bill would make it difficult for Muslims to have things like their wills implemented, having islamic burials etc. Its not about 'stonings' or other things like that. Simply about letting us choose to have our religious rites acknowledged. A belated welcome to the forums! Looking forward to your posts! See you around! :) ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 01 December 2010 at 10:35am
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That there isn't and never was any racism in Islam. Black or white skin doesn't matter to Muslims. I really admire that. And I really like the story of Bilal ibn Rabah al-Habashi. Of course the Alhambra in Granada which I visited twice is an absolute masterpiece. Brilliant awe-inspiring architecture. ------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt |
Posted By: JesusGal
Date Posted: 30 December 2010 at 10:00pm
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Salam Aialikum.
(I don't think I spelled that correctly) What do I like about Islam? I like the way everybody is greeted as a Brother or Sister. More than anything, I love my Muslim family that I live with. A year ago God blessed me by moving a single mother and her two beautiful daughters into the basement apartment where I rent the top floor. The doors are now wide open and we eat and prepare every meal together. I have been to the Masjid and have my own hijabs for those days. Sometimes they do their prayers and I sit and read my Bible until they are done so we can make Dua (?spelling) together. It is nice to see a forum where there can be respectful interfaith discussions. Peace to you all. Terri |
Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 9:13am
Wa'alaikum Salaam JesusGal, Wow it felt so nice to read your post! It sure is a blessing to have good neighbors. And its beautiful how you both get along so well! MashAllah! :). In Islam our neighbors have a lot of rights on us. During Prophet Muhammad's time, his companions once said that the Prophet talked so much of neighborly rights that we thought he would even grant them a share in our inheritance. Thats how important it is to be nice to them! So its nice to hear that neighbors of two different religions can get along so well. May Allah bless us all with good, kind neighbors! ------------- "O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young." |
Posted By: JesusGal
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 9:33am
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Thank-you, Chrysalis.
:-) We have since moved into a full rented townhouse together. It's nice as we are no longer just neighbors, but house mates and a family. ------------- 1 John 4:18 "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." |