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Topic: Women shaheed

Posted By: Submit to Alah
Subject: Women shaheed
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 4:33am

Praise be to Alah.

Please answar my hombel queston brother skolars.

If a women is killd as a marter for the sake of Alah, how does the hadith "The shahid will be marryd to seventy-two hoor al-'iyn" apply to her?

May Alaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.

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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 5:38am

Peace be upon you.

Yes that actually makes very little sense, if any what so ever. Could the whole concept be a *gasp* ...insertion to the teachings of Allah?
Lets look at the Quran, as it IS the criterion

Blessed is He who sent down THE CRITERIA to His servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures (Quran : 25.1)

By wich

"...If any do fail to judge by what Allah(God) has sent down (i.e the Quran), they are unbelievers (Kaafiroon)." (5:45).

"...If any do fail to judge by that which Allah has sent down, they are tyrants (dhilamoon)." (5:45)

"...If any do fail to judge by that which Allah has sent down, such are evil-livers (fasikoon)." (5:47)

we should judge all things.

Take a look at http://www.free-minds.org/articles/science/hur.htm - this

And judge for yourself if the reason for all the confusion could be

Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than God, they would surely have found therein MANY CONTRADICTIONS (4.82).

"What is wrong with you? How do you judge? Do you have another book which you study?" (68:35-36).

I really, really love this book, it makes so much sense that anything else seems to vanish in its presence.

Peace
Noah

Posted By: Rezz
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 6:32am

Peace Noah

Do any Muslims (or people who call themselves Muslims) believe the hadith "The shaheed will be married to seventy-two hoor al-'iyn" means that Martyrs are rewarded with seventy-two virgins in Paradise.

In the West we are told that some suicide bombers believe this and smile in expectation as they detonate themselves.

Is this true? What do the learned members feel?

Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 6:51am

That these poor guys, who out of frustration because of the global domination financial politics going on, blow themself up. Are the victims of a very cruel scam. Not only will they go to hell because they kill people who are unarmed. Look at the Quran, it makes this clear in no uncertain terms;

"...anyone who kills any person who had not committed murder or horrendous crimes, it shall be as if he killed all the people. And anyone who spares a life, it shall be as if he spared the lives of all the people..." (5:32)

There is no interpretation of any kind needed here what so ever. Its crystal clear. Have the people at the subway in london comitted horrendous crimes? Who knows.

Not only that, but they are going to hell for committing suicide, and they will be blamed for not using their mind. I mean, they put themself facing some serious charges on the day of judgement.

If you read the Quran the wholementality of muslim warfare is that you try to negotiate, if you are attacked you retaliate but DO NOT TRANSGRESS, you give equal pay at all times, in all aspects of human life. It suggests the "removal" of the leaders on the other side, as the solution. kill the problem at its root. If thats not possible, we have to stay focused on the warmachinery of the attacker, not the civil population. I would go as far as to say that WMD's are questionable for many reasons outlined in the Quran, in the hands of a muslim. I dont think we are allowed to use those kinds of weaponry at all because of the havoc they wreck. Personally i would rather go for specialised assasins. You see at those leve of politics where the real evil does are, the real monsters, you cannot trust anybody. Everybody is fueled by their own desires, and this is why their are so paranoid. they know this. This is why they want more and more and more security that in fact does NOT provide any security what so ever. How is a camera going to stop a suicide bomber, or an ID card or a chip for that matter? Its not. Its because they are doing some really crappy stuff, and they know it, and they know that we will find out.

Peace
Noah

Posted By: Rezz
Date Posted: 20 July 2005 at 9:23am

Peace Noah

And thank you for your answer.

I am still interested in what other Scholars say on this. Is this what the Wahabis believe?