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Topic: Big Government, Little People
Posted By: UmmFatima
Subject: Big Government, Little People
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 10:26am
I was just listening to Rush on my local AM and I heard him say, in denouncing the health care reform going through Congress, "...if you want to trade in freedom for security..."

I think most of us would!

And why don't we privatize the Armed Forces if freedom is so great? Why don't we privatize all of America's schools if unrestricted capitalism works so well?


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�Our Lord! Grant us comfort in our spouses and descendants, and make us leaders of the God-fearing.� -Al-Furqan 74



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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 22 March 2010 at 10:10pm
Originally posted by UmmFatima UmmFatima wrote:

I was just listening to Rush on my local AM and I heard him say, in denouncing the health care reform going through Congress, "...if you want to trade in freedom for security..."


I think most of us would!

And why don't we privatize the Armed Forces if freedom is so great? Why don't we privatize all of America's schools if unrestricted capitalism works so well?

It is happening:
  • Backwater Worldwide/ or Xe Corp is making a killing, killing Muslims!
  • In reality the big bucks from military spending do end up in the private corporations...Always remember the M.I.Complex as IKE warned!
  • Has US military won any war since the WWII except Granada or Panama?
  • It is a fact the top US schools are private ex Military academies!
  • The State are going broke and the schools are in trouble inmost places in US! The school system in LA is falling apart with most dropping out!
  • Who wants any games without rules and restrictions so should be the capitalism!
  • The robbers of Wall Street bribed the crooks in White House to take that restriction to rob the world banking system with sub prime scam! That was a classic example unrestricted capitalism!
  • So run from the Big Brother if you want your sanity!



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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 9:18am
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:


It is happening:(Only in the mind of goofy conspiracy theorists.)
  • Quote Backwater Worldwide/ or Xe Corp is making a killing, killing Muslims!

I believe you are referring to Blackwater in your baseless claim that Blackwater / N/F Xe Corp is making a killing, killing moslems. If you could perhaps let go of your goofy conspiracy theory ramblings for a moment, you would be interested to learn that overwhelmingly, moslems are the greatest killer (and greatest threat) to other moslems.

How's that How�s that working out for you?

 

Quote In reality the big bucks from military spending do end up in the private corporations...Always remember the M.I.Complex as IKE warned!

The altered reality you inhabit is not a reality that most people would care to live in.

  • Quote Has US military won any war since the WWII except Granada or Panama?

Yes, actually, they have.

 

 

  • Quote It is a fact the top US schools are private ex Military academies!

That�s not a fact at all. You don�t bother to support your nonsensical claims because they are unsupportable. Do you just sprout these nonsensical claims as though you expect no one to point out the absurdities?

  • Quote The State are going broke and the schools are in trouble inmost places in US! The school system in LA is falling apart with most dropping out!

More nonsensical claims. Do a search. You will find that approximately 25% of LA high school students do not graduate. That�s clearly not �most�. Are you perhaps reality challenged?  

  • Quote Who wants any games without rules and restrictions so should be the capitalism!

As usual, your comments make no sense. Wouldn�t you be happier living in Pakistan? I hear there are work opportunities for wannabe jihadis.

  • Quote The robbers of Wall Street bribed the crooks in White House to take that restriction to rob the world banking system with sub prime scam! That was a classic example unrestricted capitalism!

Another goofy claim, totally unsupported and lacking validation. Please identify us the crooks you speak of and those in the White House who were bribed. Be specific and provide relevant examples. Otherwise, we can only assume that your goofy claims are simply conspiracy theories of no merit.

  • Quote So run from the Big Brother if you want your sanity!

I hear Pakistan is lovely this time of the 7th century. When are you leaving?



Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

I hear there are work opportunities for wannabe jihadis.



What are you trying here?

What do you mean by this? Are you accusing this a Jihadi site to you?

What we have among us  a TROLL! And the administration needs to look in!

There is no way we can discuss anything from this point on with you!


Posted By: semar
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 3:38pm
Originally posted by UmmFatima UmmFatima wrote:

I was just listening to Rush on my local AM and I heard him say, in denouncing the health care reform going through Congress, "...if you want to trade in freedom for security..."

I think most of us would!

And why don't we privatize the Armed Forces if freedom is so great? Why don't we privatize all of America's schools if unrestricted capitalism works so well?
 
Why did you listen to such show? The are many other show that worth to listen to.


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Salam/Peace,

Semar

"We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH)

"1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

I hear there are work opportunities for wannabe jihadis.



What are you trying here?

What do you mean by this? Are you accusing this a Jihadi site to you?

What we have among us  a TROLL! And the administration needs to look in!

There is no way we can discuss anything from this point on with you!
As expected, you knew your goofy conspiracy theories and baseless claims were absent and defense so your only available tactic is to attempt to change the subject with childish name-calling and outrageous charges.
 
It's probably too late but you might want to see if you can erase your posts before they become the subject of even greater ridicule.  


Posted By: UmmFatima
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 8:36pm
semar, there's only one am station in town and the fm stations all play music incessantly. I think it's good to hear the other side sometimes. I once heard him call Islam a "great religion," even.

I agree that we can't blame everything on America, and that Muslims do a pretty good job of ruining their own chances, but I think most Muslims on earth aren't really practicing and aren't a good example. Especially in places where education is minimal, like Pakistan.


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�Our Lord! Grant us comfort in our spouses and descendants, and make us leaders of the God-fearing.� -Al-Furqan 74


Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:07pm
I agree that we can't blame everything on America, and that Muslims do a pretty good job of ruining their own chances, but I think most Muslims on earth aren't really practicing and aren't a good example. Especially in places where education is minimal, like Pakistan.

I agree.. one should take responsibility for one's individual actions and also, nonactions...

Sorry your option is Rush.. that's got to be painful hearing his stuff all the time. Smile


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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 1:13am
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

I believe you are referring to Blackwater in your baseless claim that Blackwater / N/F Xe Corp is making a killing, killing moslems. If you could perhaps let go of your goofy conspiracy theory ramblings for a moment, you would be interested to learn that overwhelmingly, moslems are the greatest killer (and greatest threat) to other moslems.

Take it easy you and stop frothing ...It is not moslems it is Muslims, the Brits tried that for centuries, but it didn't work...  capice...though I don't expect you to... they are theories but then they become facts!


Talk about killers let's look at the fact sheet ...you can't goof about the  historical numbers...who killed who? If you can do simple additions the answer will come as clear as a crystal for even a dumb Islamophobe as long as not too irrational and stubborn like a mule! LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_disasters_by_death_toll -

How's that How�s that working out for you?
This sounds like that Palinite talk for the out crowd! What the heck you are talking about?

 

The altered reality you inhabit is not a reality that most people would care to live in.

What is your reality? let's hear it?


Yes, actually, they have.

Name it...

 

 


That�s not a fact at all. You don�t bother to support your nonsensical claims because they are unsupportable. Do you just sprout these nonsensical claims as though you expect no one to point out the absurdities?

Bloomer you don't need be so anal...here is the list!

America's Best Colleges

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/94/opinions_college08_Americas-Best-Colleges_Rank.html -


More nonsensical claims. Do a search. You will find that approximately 25% of LA high school students do not graduate. That�s clearly not �most�. Are you perhaps reality challenged?

Guess what blooper, what do I care?  Here is the search!

L.A. sees graduation rates drop

Study shows district is giving out fewer diplomas despite a rise in enrollment. The exit exam may be a factor.

The Los Angeles Unified School District officially declared a 64% graduation rate in 2005-06, the most recent year for which a rate is available. District leaders have long disputed studies that have shown the rate to be under 50%.

I could care less even if they were at 75% as you said which they are not ...it is still pathetic by world standards!

As usual, your comments make no sense. Wouldn�t you be happier living in Pakistan? I hear there are work opportunities for wannabe jihadis.

So you are in that business to find work for wannabees, shame on you moronic, worthless Piper crap! I think that is for filth like you! No wonder that place is so screwed up!

You need be kicked out of this forum as soon as possible!

Have had it with your gutter sniping.........................


Another goofy claim, totally unsupported and lacking validation. Please identify us the crooks you speak of and those in the White House who were bribed. Be specific and provide relevant examples. Otherwise, we can only assume that your goofy claims are simply conspiracy theories of no merit.

I don't need to waste any more time on a gutter sniping Piper- Spencerite Islamophobe ....Do you remember " Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act"or know what it was? Who wrote it  and why? Are you this dumb or acting like one?

Did you ever look at the campaign fund numbers for 08?

Who got what and from whom?





Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 1:50am
I think the starter of this thread member_profile.asp?PF=62816&FID=41 - UmmFatima left and I am stuck with the TROLLOuch
I can't fathom why someone would spend all his time hunting up conspiracy theories in my posts and be so mean spirited!
As obvious this being an educational forum for Muslims (not moslems as boomer would like to tell us) and non Muslims... the theories would dissolve or come out as facts in a good discussion but obviously he is not willing to have that rather looking for contradictions in every statement When there are none!
Indicates a very sad and troubled state of mind when he is relentless in fault finding in straightforward posts! 


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 3:14am
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

I think the starter of this thread member_profile.asp?PF=62816&FID=41 - UmmFatima left and I am stuck with the TROLLOuch
I can't fathom why someone would spend all his time hunting up conspiracy theories in my posts and be so mean spirited!
As obvious this being an educational forum for Muslims (not moslems as boomer would like to tell us) and non Muslims... the theories would dissolve or come out as facts in a good discussion but obviously he is not willing to have that rather looking for contradictions in every statement When there are none!
Indicates a very sad and troubled state of mind when he is relentless in fault finding in straightforward posts! 
Making excuses for your failed arguments won't make a failed argument more palatable. Similarly, posting false data and making false claims is not something that will shelter you from being exposed as a fraud. No one but you is responsible for your nonsensical claims.


Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 4:34am
I do agree there is a Troll amongst us... 

anoyone who disagrees is nonsense, childish or should just stop posting.. I've yes to see a dialogue where he acknowledges he could be wrong..hmmmOuch


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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 5:08am
Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

I do agree there is a Troll amongst us... 

anoyone who disagrees is nonsense, childish or should just stop posting.. I've yes to see a dialogue where he acknowledges he could be wrong..hmmmOuch
So expect for spamming with your troll'isms, do you have any relevant comment to offer?


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

I think the starter of this thread member_profile.asp?PF=62816&FID=41 - UmmFatima left and I am stuck with the TROLLOuch
I can't fathom why someone would spend all his time hunting up conspiracy theories in my posts and be so mean spirited!
As obvious this being an educational forum for Muslims (not moslems as boomer would like to tell us) and non Muslims... the theories would dissolve or come out as facts in a good discussion but obviously he is not willing to have that rather looking for contradictions in every statement When there are none!
Indicates a very sad and troubled state of mind when he is relentless in fault finding in straightforward posts! 
Making excuses for your failed arguments won't make a failed argument more palatable. Similarly, posting false data and making false claims is not something that will shelter you from being exposed as a fraud. No one but you is responsible for your nonsensical claims.

There are no false data that you have rebutted so this assumption is nothing but making an ass of yourself and I don't need to make an argument to a net nonentity who is malicious and beyond reason to the core...

What gains are their for any of us here for any of your imaginary fraud...
Your self styled childish accusations being non sequitur unless you replied in their context that you run from being a TROLL!!!

You will see your trolling effort going nowhere fast other than your inability to be a decent  and pleasant human coming through the cyberspace like whiff from a ghetto gutter...

The proof is in the fact when the moderator had to lock out other thread seeing your despicable behaviour with our honorable sisters! 

Get over with your stupor and see the truth?
In so many years have seen lot sicker cases so I will be patient to help you see the light at the end of your dark, slimy & putrid tunnel!
BTW are you a FOX News subscriber?




Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:

I do agree there is a Troll amongst us... 

anoyone who disagrees is nonsense, childish or should just stop posting.. I've yes to see a dialogue where he acknowledges he could be wrong..hmmmOuch
So expect for spamming with your troll'isms, do you have any relevant comment to offer?



What relevant comment did you have to offer other than endless generalization? A pot calling the kettle black! And that being an empty pot...of course an emptier the pot noisier it soundsLOL


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

I think the starter of this thread member_profile.asp?PF=62816&FID=41 - UmmFatima left and I am stuck with the TROLLOuch
I can't fathom why someone would spend all his time hunting up conspiracy theories in my posts and be so mean spirited!
As obvious this being an educational forum for Muslims (not moslems as boomer would like to tell us) and non Muslims... the theories would dissolve or come out as facts in a good discussion but obviously he is not willing to have that rather looking for contradictions in every statement When there are none!
Indicates a very sad and troubled state of mind when he is relentless in fault finding in straightforward posts! 
Making excuses for your failed arguments won't make a failed argument more palatable. Similarly, posting false data and making false claims is not something that will shelter you from being exposed as a fraud. No one but you is responsible for your nonsensical claims.

There are no false data that you have rebutted so this assumption is nothing but making an ass of yourself and I don't need to make an argument to a net nonentity who is malicious and beyond reason to the core...

What gains are their for any of us here for any of your imaginary fraud...
Your self styled childish accusations being non sequitur unless you replied in their context that you run from being a TROLL!!!

You will see your trolling effort going nowhere fast other than your inability to be a decent  and pleasant human coming through the cyberspace like whiff from a ghetto gutter...

The proof is in the fact when the moderator had to lock out other thread seeing your despicable behaviour with our honorable sisters! 

Get over with your stupor and see the truth?
In so many years have seen lot sicker cases so I will be patient to help you see the light at the end of your dark, slimy & putrid tunnel!
BTW are you a FOX News subscriber?


Well... that was a waste of time. Aside from your inabilty to author a coherent post, you offered nothing but childish whining.


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 6:49pm
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:


What relevant comment did you have to offer other than endless generalization? A pot calling the kettle black! And that being an empty pot...of course an emptier the pot noisier it soundsLOL
Your silly posts are much more entertaining when your're inventing goofy conspiracy theories.


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 7:15pm
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

Well... that was a waste of time. Aside from your inabilty to author a coherent post, you offered nothing but childish whining.

I would love to see some literary prize to your name...don't sidetrack when you can't respond like decent person, who gives a crap about your authoring skills? Why don't you come out and tell who hell you really are? Talk about coherent and not be able to spell check the idiotic snipeLOL
 Childish ha ha, this is NO TROLL ZONE and that everyone is asking Why are you here. Period




Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

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Your silly posts are much more entertaining when your're inventing goofy conspiracy theories.
Look... do you stutter in real life? Invent yea! any of your cotton picking business?




Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 3:55am
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

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Your silly posts are much more entertaining when your're inventing goofy conspiracy theories.
Look... do you stutter in real life? Invent yea! any of your cotton picking business?


Troll - you continue to spam with your nonsensical comments.


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

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Your silly posts are much more entertaining when your're inventing goofy conspiracy theories.
Look... do you stutter in real life? Invent yea! any of your cotton picking business?


Troll - you continue to spam with your nonsensical comments.
Dodge all you like but how long? You need Glenn BeckWink


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 1:37pm
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Dodge all you like but how long? You need Glenn BeckWink
Your pointless comments are nothing more than the typical spam that define all your posts.  


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by Boomer Boomer wrote:

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Dodge all you like but how long? You need Glenn BeckWink
Your pointless comments are nothing more than the typical spam that define all your posts.  
Your comments are revelations! LOL
Danial Pipes schooled Islamophobic tirades coming out of some new bible so what else is new?...Name a single member who will vouch for your nugget of a comments... Unless the forum moderator says spam is no spam.Period
You still need to answer the question asked or confess ignorance then I let you go!
capice!


Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Your comments are revelations! LOL
Danial Pipes schooled Islamophic tirades coming out of some new bible so what else is new?...Name a single member who will vouch for your nugget of a comments... Unless the forum moderator says spam is no spam.Period
You still need to answer the question asked or confess ignorance then I let you go!
capice!
You have no ability to compose a coherent post. I can't help you to come to an understanding of your failings.


Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 04 April 2010 at 6:13pm
Maybe perhaps Boomer you are the only "coherent" person on this Forum.. And since none of us can understand you maybe you should go places that people will "understand" you and of course agree with you.

I do find it amusing you like to spend your time with us. Hug


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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi



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