95,000 descendants of Mohammed to sue
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Topic: 95,000 descendants of Mohammed to sue
Posted By: Boomer
Subject: 95,000 descendants of Mohammed to sue
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 1:28pm
The photo's that accompany the story below are very telling. We're greeted with flaming, unhinged, finger wagging loons holding up signs reading: "slay those who insult islam", "butcher those who insult islam" and other, endearing messages for the reviled infidel. Lovely, lovely people.
I have some unsolicited advise for you wonderful folks: I don't much care for your threats and I have little patience with your goofy calls to slay someone because your delicate sensibilities are offended over something as meaningless as cartoons.
We understand that logic just doesn't play a very big role in medieval thinking. Come to grips with the fact that the world has moved beyond medieval times. Come to grips with the fact that you are the authors of your own failures and ineptitudes and that if you can find the courage to alter decisions that are self-defeating, your lives may begin to improve� or not.
95,000 descendants of Mohammed to sue over 'blasphemous' cartoons
http://www.news.com.au/world/descendants-of-mohammed-to-sue-over-blasphemous-cartoons/story-e6frfkyi-1225843489852 - http://www.news.com.au/world/descendants-of-mohammed-to-sue-over-blasphemous-cartoons/story-e6frfkyi-1225843489852
NEARLY 95,000 descendants of Mohammed are going to sue 10 newspapers for publishing "blasphemous" cartoons of the prophet.
Faisal Yamani, a Saudi lawyer acting for the descendants, claims that the cartoons - which first appeared in 2005 and caused violent protests by Muslims around the world - are defamatory.
One of the 12 cartoons depicts Mohammed wearing a bomb-shaped turban. |
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Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 27 March 2010 at 4:22pm
I have some unsolicited advise for you wonderful folks: I don't much
care for your threats and I have little patience with your goofy calls
to slay someone because your delicate sensibilities are offended over
something as meaningless as cartoons.
Who are you talking to? LOL Maybe you should send a letter to the lawyer? LOL
------------- When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 27 March 2010 at 8:30pm
Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 28 March 2010 at 4:18am
Hayfa wrote:
Who are you talking to? LOL Maybe you should send a letter to the lawyer? LOL
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While you�re lol�ing, I�ll note that the rabid cartoon protestors are the same wonderful forward thinkers who would keep you wrapped in a sack if not for the freedoms and protections extended to you in the Great Satan� the very place whose freedoms you exploit. You�ll excuse me then for dismissing the comments of a hypocrite.
What I find rather humorous, however, is that the entire MoTunes situation has exposed a rather monumental hypocrisy, not something unique to the Muslim community of course, but amusing nonetheless.
The restrictions on illustrating or creating images of Mohammed, for fear that they might encourage or elicit worship of islam�s prophet, represent the original offense here, as I understand it. Of course, far from being something intended to encourage worship of Mohammed, the cartoons in question were somewhat...critical, shall we say. In response, large groups of moslems rallied and protested at embassies, threatened to kidnap westerners, chanted (bizarrely) "Death to America", ineffectively boycotted Danish products, invaded sovereign Danish lands in Indonesia and eventually resulted in the deaths of up to 200 moslems and untold destruction of moslem property.
In response to fear of idolizing Mohammed, these individuals threaten violence and go on fiery rampages...in idolization of Mohammed and his reputation.
Super.
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Posted By: Umm Hufsah
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 5:00am
I have to say, your hatred for Muslims
does shine through every word you speak.
I condemn all the
killings of innocent people in the bombings (Muslim or non-Muslim
killed) but you and your government have yet to prove '9/11 is not a
hoax' committed by US gov (prove false every fact raised in documentary ZERO don't
tell me you are going to run away from this challenge again saying every thing that does not agree with your false claims with no proof as conspiries as usual which seems
to be common practise of governments too seem they really got something to hide). I must say, I haven't heard you and your governments condemning
monstrosities committed by Israel, US, UK and its allies (including
terrorist western group Called Black Water operating in Iraq and
Pakistan) - killing illegally (using not just bombs but nuclear and
chemical weapons) 100 times over innocent children, elderly and women
than killed by so called fiend Muslims bombers. I guess you must support
it wholeheartedly.
Oh yes just to illuminate on few
misunderstandings you have, The cartoon produced by Danish community is a
Mark of its failure to have civilised debate with Muslims. The cartoons
produced by them are simply a slander and mockery of a religion they
don't want to spread. A criticism is supposed to consist of truth
supported by facts not lies and slander. A human only resorts to lies
and swears when he fails miserably to win a debate intellectually and in
a
civilised way. Only barbaric, sour losers and savage people would
resort to such Petty ways to win against some one let alone a religion
(Islam) followed by 1/3 of world population and a fastest growing
religion in the world. For instance, its a common practise to swear at
anther's mother in the west and shamefully it's becoming a fashion to
say f*** word before every word in a sentence for
some twisted logic behind it. Saying swears is by no means mark of
intelligentce or can be actually classified as criticism but highlights
lack of ability to conduct rational dialogue in a civilised way, unable
to deal with important matters with facts and good principles/morals,
boasting of one's false power over people considered weak and when you are about to be caught
cornered red handed of being corrupt.
Just to inform you, many
people who are not as narrow minded as you, I know few (hundreds not
mentioned by the biased media you support) who became
Muslims just seeing Muslims out on the streets demonstrating the anger
and hurt (created by base less offence by Danish ) and to protect their
respected, holy and loved figure. Why? they said there must be something
that is truly valuable and precious to protect that these Muslims are
out there doing the best they can for now or allowed by the dictator
government. These people studied Islam open minded and open hearted not
with fascist mind set and became Muslims them selves. Don't want to add
to your wounds, but the truth is that people are finding out the truth
about True Islam despite all the effort put by your beloved governments
to put smoke screens in people eyes using Nazi propaganda through media
to lead people away from Islam. To top that up the ratio of people
coming to Islam men : women is 1:4.
Women who become Muslims
mostly come to Islam because it liberates them from Western oppression
and injustice- seeing women as objects ( how
many lads magz you got in your home? major problem in UK government
struggling to tackle and Internet full of 67% pornography). Slapping
women's naked images on every product advert in the name of fame,
respect and freedom. Correct me on shameful figures/statistics of rapes
in UK and US, 1 in every 4 women raped and also a women getting raped
every 2 minutes. Perpetrators? surprise boyfriends, husbands and
relatives (even father or brother gross isn't it!). Every men having at
least 10 affairs in his life time in UK - usually abandoning
ex-girlfriends with 2-3 kids leading single mums to commit suicides in
mass numbers. Domestic violence 1 in every 4 women victim of it in UK -
NHS failing to address it miserably.
Finally, I would like to
highlight democratic
US justice to us Muslim women (our Savior from oppression ). US
sure gave fame, respect, and freedom to secret prisoner a women
called Dr. Affia Siddiqui. Sounds familiar or conveniently ignored as
may be to you Muslims don't count as humans. Let me relate it to you
briefly, where do I start hmm first kidnapped illegally, her 3 kids
butchered, Six men raped her endlessly over period of 7 years in secret
prison in the name of mid-evil practise called cavity search, beat her,
torture her (pluck her hair out one by one, etc...), forced her walk
naked over desecrated Quran, denied her human rights to meet her family
or any human being, first lied like rug denying her existence then when
discovered framed her of false full of holes and with no evidence
ridiculous story and convicting her with severest of punishments 60
years in jail (hello surprise no terrorist charges again) over just
lifting a riffle gun (no proof). There you go that's America's gross,
biased and twisted justice for you.
I sure am getting tired
typing all this, I know it won't change your fascist views
even if you bother to read it and you soon will come up with some thing
else to vent about but I certainly felt like shedding some light on the
misleading claims you make.
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Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 5:59am
Umm Hufsah wrote:
I have to say, your hatred for Muslims does shine through every word you speak.
I condemn all the killings of innocent people in the bombings (Muslim or non-Muslim killed) but you and your government have yet to prove '9/11 is not a hoax' committed by US gov (prove false every fact raised in documentary ZERO don't tell me you are going to run away from this challenge again saying every thing that does not agree with your false claims with no proof as conspiries as usual which seems to be common practise of governments too seem they really got something to hide). I must say, I haven't heard you and your governments condemning monstrosities committed by Israel, US, UK and its allies (including terrorist western group Called Black Water operating in Iraq and Pakistan) - killing illegally (using not just bombs but nuclear and chemical weapons) 100 times over innocent children, elderly and women than killed by so called fiend Muslims bombers. I guess you must support it wholeheartedly.
Oh yes just to illuminate on few misunderstandings you have, The cartoon produced by Danish community is a Mark of its failure to have civilised debate with Muslims. The cartoons produced by them are simply a slander and mockery of a religion they don't want to spread. A criticism is supposed to consist of truth supported by facts not lies and slander. A human only resorts to lies and swears when he fails miserably to win a debate intellectually and in a civilised way. Only barbaric, sour losers and savage people would resort to such Petty ways to win against some one let alone a religion (Islam) followed by 1/3 of world population and a fastest growing religion in the world. For instance, its a common practise to swear at anther's mother in the west and shamefully it's becoming a fashion to say f*** word before every word in a sentence for some twisted logic behind it. Saying swears is by no means mark of intelligentce or can be actually classified as criticism but highlights lack of ability to conduct rational dialogue in a civilised way, unable to deal with important matters with facts and good principles/morals, boasting of one's false power over people considered weak and when you are about to be caught cornered red handed of being corrupt.
Just to inform you, many people who are not as narrow minded as you, I know few (hundreds not mentioned by the biased media you support) who became Muslims just seeing Muslims out on the streets demonstrating the anger and hurt (created by base less offence by Danish ) and to protect their respected, holy and loved figure. Why? they said there must be something that is truly valuable and precious to protect that these Muslims are out there doing the best they can for now or allowed by the dictator government. These people studied Islam open minded and open hearted not with fascist mind set and became Muslims them selves. Don't want to add to your wounds, but the truth is that people are finding out the truth about True Islam despite all the effort put by your beloved governments to put smoke screens in people eyes using Nazi propaganda through media to lead people away from Islam. To top that up the ratio of people coming to Islam men : women is 1:4.
Women who become Muslims mostly come to Islam because it liberates them from Western oppression and injustice- seeing women as objects ( how many lads magz you got in your home? major problem in UK government struggling to tackle and Internet full of 67% pornography). Slapping women's naked images on every product advert in the name of fame, respect and freedom. Correct me on shameful figures/statistics of rapes in UK and US, 1 in every 4 women raped and also a women getting raped every 2 minutes. Perpetrators? surprise boyfriends, husbands and relatives (even father or brother gross isn't it!). Every men having at least 10 affairs in his life time in UK - usually abandoning ex-girlfriends with 2-3 kids leading single mums to commit suicides in mass numbers. Domestic violence 1 in every 4 women victim of it in UK - NHS failing to address it miserably.
Finally, I would like to highlight democratic US justice to us Muslim women (our Savior from oppression ). US sure gave fame, respect, and freedom to secret prisoner a women called Dr. Affia Siddiqui. Sounds familiar or conveniently ignored as may be to you Muslims don't count as humans. Let me relate it to you briefly, where do I start hmm first kidnapped illegally, her 3 kids butchered, Six men raped her endlessly over period of 7 years in secret prison in the name of mid-evil practise called cavity search, beat her, torture her (pluck her hair out one by one, etc...), forced her walk naked over desecrated Quran, denied her human rights to meet her family or any human being, first lied like rug denying her existence then when discovered framed her of false full of holes and with no evidence ridiculous story and convicting her with severest of punishments 60 years in jail (hello surprise no terrorist charges again) over just lifting a riffle gun (no proof). There you go that's America's gross, biased and twisted justice for you.
I sure am getting tired typing all this, I know it won't change your fascist views even if you bother to read it and you soon will come up with some thing else to vent about but I certainly felt like shedding some light on the misleading claims you make. |
My goodness but aren't you the prototypical self-hating islamist. May I suggest you join your wannabe heroes, grab a sign lettered with the "slay those who insult islam", slogan and march in the streets? You'll feel better about yourself. Really, you will.
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Posted By: Umm Hufsah
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 6:14am
ha ha ha aren't you typical self- praising and conceited clone how
about going around with your slogan 'murder all those who defend Islam and innocent'.
Oh no! I knew I shouldn't have gotten involved in argument with you, now look what you have done made me argue a like kid with you in your style!
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Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 6:19am
Umm Hufsah wrote:
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Yes ladies and gentlemen, it is appropriate to point and laugh at the silly, self hating islamist.
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Posted By: martha
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 6:21am
Becoming muslim did not liberate me at all. In fact I was far more oppressed than I had been before.... perhaps because I married a Pakistani man.
It amazes me that SO many muslims that migrate to the UK are SO anti the government, the people, and the culture that they bother to come here in the first place.
Given a choice of my own culture/society or a mish mash of asian/muslim culture in the UK I know which I prefer.
There are far too many people condemning the western world. People in the UK do NOT want to change to please others. It is perfectly fine for anyone to come here and practise their beliefs..but allow others already here to have the freedom to do the same.
There is freedom of speech for all..as depicted in the above picture...This is a democracy for all.
The comment above re: Dr Affia Siddiqui. It is indeed appalling that she was/is treated this way..but what about all the Pakistani people back home that sodomise grandmothers? That kidnap innocent children for a randsom and then murder them when the money doesnt come? Shall I go on? OK then..the corrupt army and police force..illegal practises to opbtain false documents/passports/visa. Neighbour oppressing neighbour. So does having a difficult life justify these bad ways? No, not at all. Find fault with your own people before judging this culture so harshly. You want a free NHS that you don't get at home..so accept it is not a perfect system.
People come here for economic reasons, fair enough, but DON'T keep slapping us in the face if you don't get all the benefits you want. Contribute more to society and then deserve what you are given. NOthing is free in life.
I have met hundreds of asian people that rob our society in many, many ways.
So PLEASE don't try to remove the speck from someone's eye when you have a plank in your own.
Talk about other people being narrow minded..huh! I have seen far more this past six years that has given me a good perspective of the human race. Thankfully I am in a far better place than before. I have God to thank for that, not human beings.
Don't get me wrong..I love many things asian. THousands of decent English people are abused and used everyday by Pakistani's in the UK and their extended families back home. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
So, let me speak...I am allowed to..it's a free country.
If you don;t like it then don't give it out also.
The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed. TBH the picture above is shocking. These people bring disgrace on Islam. Most are unemployed men who do not try to look for work..yet spend their time protesting like this. Odd then that the white English are not permitted such favours and have their benefits stopped. Shame on the likes of those in the above photo.
I will now come off my soap box.
I dont; care what you think of me. I know far more than what I tell here.
------------- some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 7:03am
martha wrote:
The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed.
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Just libel tourism run-a-muck.
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Posted By: martha
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 7:14am
abuayisha wrote:
martha wrote:
The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed. |
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<P =Msonormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">Just libel tourism run-a-muck.</SPAN> |
Do you think they should succeed brother?
------------- some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 9:19am
abuayisha wrote:
martha wrote:
The 95,000 suing over the caroon will be given a fair right to be heard, but I cannot see for one minute they will succeed.
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Just libel tourism run-a-muck. |
That doesn't make sense. Libel is not a legal precept that applies to cartoons or caricatures as in the MoToons case. The was no libel committed, hence no crime.
You are still free to go on fiery rampages and murder people who you think may have offended your tender sensibilities but you will also find that, that really is a crime; one you really will be prosecuted for.
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Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 9:23am
Martha,
In a sense I agree with you about preferring "our culture" but you seem so ANGRY that the other people - Muslim from Asia could not relate to you, nor you to them. I don't relate to many people from other cultures but I don't get mad at this. I actually have alot of compassion for all of us.
And you have to admit, there are PLENTY of "native" British folks on the dole. Plenty who cheat the government. Plenty who don't really work to their great capability.
Your ex was a cheater and a liar. You can say it was because he was a Muslin or Pakistani etc etc. No he was a bad person. You chose poorly. I watch court cases here in the states. Happens to thousands of women. Poor judgement. They had poor judgement and there were bad people.
Scanners: And keep in mind that say Heathrow is a major nub airport. Does not mean you are a British citizen. What is so hard to create alternatives for those who don't want a scanner? The women I knew in Pakistan were SO private. They would be embarrassed to go through some body scanner. There is nothing that prohibits them from giving people who ask for alternatives. and just cause people don't want people to see their private parts does not mean anything then that.
------------- When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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Posted By: martha
Date Posted: 01 April 2010 at 12:09pm
Hayfa,
You should know, of all people, that I actually do have a lot of compassion for ALL people. And I would hardly say I am angry. I can relate well to asians and they to me..obviously not all of them.
My ex was one that used many people...and the majority act in the same way, unfortunately. But I would blame this government for being too soft in many ways. The US don;t let non-professionals into the US, we do. That being said, I met some wonderful asian people that I could trust with my life..and I was more than happy to live in Pakistan and help the orphaned children especially. Weird that most from there don;t like to help their own and actually found my good intentions amusing. So, it happens. It's when people don't care and trample over others that upsets me.
So, there are plenty of British folks on the dole. NOt quite sure what that proves. Though tbh, if they are also liars and cheats I wouldn't and don't think much of them either! BUt this is not the problem, is it. People resent those that cause trouble and do little or nothing to contribute to society. This is not a British grumble..plenty of asian muslims say the same about the lazy muslims.
MOst people, at some time in life, choose a friend or spouse poorly. In hindsight I chose badly. At the time I was naive, that's all. Haven't you also done the same at some point? Sure, we all do.
Scanners: I am certain that alternatives are being considered. British people are basically private people too, but if there is a threat, and most believe there is a threat to security, then others should understand that.
Images should be immediately erased, and those operating the scanners are not even in the same room as the person being scanned. (BUt like most things in life there will no doubt be someone who wishes to abuse the system)
People need to be sensible and look at all the facts, and then make good judgements.
Good and bad everywhere. This is not about me being mad with asian muslims, I am not so childish. But as it is the asian muslims that are griping about the scanners then it just fits into the topic.
------------- some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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Posted By: haris30432
Date Posted: 03 April 2010 at 2:37am
Peace!
What a waste of time and energy!!!!!The so called muslims need to start doing something more productive now.I wonder what they seek to achieve through this??Muhammadans who check their volumes of history books before doing literally each and everything in their lives seems to have forgotten to check them in this instance.Arent they thinking what the Prophet wouldve done in such a situation???Arent they checking their books to find out how the Prophet's responses were when he was ridiculed and mocked??Did he order his companions to go on a rampage when the disbelievers mocked or insulted him ???!!Where is the Sunna of the Prophet that u follow????!!Does these cartoons prevent you in anyway from practicing your faith??What did u achieve by having ur own brothers killed in these violent protests???Do u think that they will ever stop???!
Well.. know my brothers and sisters.THEY WILL NEVER STOP.!!Listen to what Allah says in the holy Quran.Disregard them.They seek to put out God's light with their mouths and GOD insists on perfecting his light.THEY WILL NEVER SUCCEED.Dont let your love and respect for the Prophet blind you.Satan is using it as a bait to trap you in the disaster called idol worship.And yes many have fallen in this trap.Allah through such incidents is showing you that this madness has to stop.Follow and uphold Allah's revelations and set the example.The same example set by the final Prophet,The Prophet Muhammad.
[18:57] Who are more evil than those who are reminded of their Lord's proofs, then disregard them, without realizing what they are doing. Consequently, we place shields on their hearts to prevent them from understanding it (the Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what you do to guide them, they can never ever be guided.
[32:30] Therefore, disregard them and wait, they too are waiting.
[37:174] So disregard them for awhile.
[37:178] Disregard them for awhile.
[43:89] You shall disregard them and say, "Peace;" they will surely find out.
[51:54] You may disregard them; you cannot be blamed.
[52:45] Disregard them until they meet the day in which they are struck.
[73:10] And remain steadfast in the face of their utterances, and disregard them in a nice manner.
[9:32] They want to put out GOD's light with their mouths, but GOD insists upon perfecting His light, in spite of the disbelievers.
[61:8] They wish to put out GOD's light with their mouths. But GOD insists upon perfecting His light, in spite of the disbelievers.
[5:58] When you call to the Contact Prayers (Salat), they mock and ridicule it. This is because they are people who do not understand.
Peace!
------------- ONE GOD ONE SOURCE OF LAW!
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