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Topic: UK ban mini skirt
Posted By: semar
Subject: UK ban mini skirt
Date Posted: 13 August 2010 at 12:23pm
Salam/Peace
 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3075750/Barmy-council-bans-mini-skirt.html - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3075750/Barmy-council-bans-mini-skirt.html
 
Barmy council bans mini skirt
 
COUNCIL bosses have banned staff from wearing mini-skirts - and could send them home if they flout the rules.
 
Women at Southampton City Council received a memo telling them they needed to dress respectfully and wear skirts of 'reasonable' length.
 
Bosses are worried that the sight of female workers showing off their legs in short skirts could shock and dismay members of the public.
 
The memo insists they dress in 'appropriate' clothing for their line of work, including trousers, informal dresses or skirts of "reasonable" length - but 'not mini-skirts'.
 
Outraged staff say they fear bosses may start prowling offices in Southampton, Hants, armed with a ruler or tape measure.
 
Unions today threatened to fight the ban.
 
The leaked email, which was sent to around 400 staff, advised men to wear collared or polo shirts, cotton trousers such as khakis or chinos with a belt, and 'dress shoes'.
 
It warned social workers, youth workers, educational welfare officers and others in the children's services department to 'carefully consider their work attire'.
 
The memo added: "During the coming weeks managers will be speaking to staff about the clothes they wear to work and making sure they are appropriate for the activities they undertake.
 
"Please try to dress smartly and thoughtfully, in line with other professionals you come across in your day-to-day work, and in a way that shows respect to children and families."

Anger
One council worker, who did not want to be named, said: "So now the council is deciding what we can and cannot wear.
 
"What is a mini-skirt? Micro-minis would probably not be acceptable, but above the knee?
 
"Are they going to come around with a tape measure?
 
"I thought the principle was to get the job done for the council taxpayers."
The council's Unison branch secretary Mike Tucker said: "I would have thought the council has got better things to do than impose a regimented approach to what people wear.
 
"If anyone is disciplined we are more than happy to defend them."
But council chiefs today insisted that although skirts should not be too short, there are no specific rules on skirt length.
 
A spokesman said: "We do not have a rigid dress code and will not be going around offices with a tape measure.
 
"Like any organisation we issue guidance and ask staff to dress appropriately for their job.
 
"We employ people in so many roles, from gardener to social worker, and giving specific rules such as wear a suit or skirt would not work.
"Staff need to use their own judgement.
 
"The email was sent to around 400 people in the Children's Services department because workers there visit people's homes and deal with sensitive issues.
 
"It is important staff in customer-facing roles look professional.
 
"The council employs just under 10,000 staff, with the vast majority dressing completely appropriately.
 
"We do not have lots of staff at the council wearing mini-skirts - that was just picked as an example of what would be inappropriate."
 
Council leader Cllr Royston Smith said: "I think this is a common sense, low bureaucracy approach and we're sure the public and staff would agree is the right one."
 
Southampton residents are divided over the mini-skirt ban.
Student Gaini Dosanova, 24, said: "I think mini-skirts look very good. I don't understand why they want to ban them.
 
"You can wear them causally, to go shopping and I think they are suitable for smart casual at work.
 
"Also they're quite cheap."
 
Receptionist Jody Clarke, 21, said: "I don't think there is anything wrong with it as long as they're not too short.
 
"They may not be suitable for management but if staff can make it look classy why not go for it?"
 
Salesman Matt Spacagna, 24, said: "If you want to be taken seriously it's probably not the way to dress.
 
"If it's a male environment it can send out the wrong message."
Pensioner Bob Moore, 66, said: "I don't think it is appropriate because it takes people's attention off their work.
 
"You can be smart casual without being provocative."
 
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3075750/Barmy-council-bans-mini-skirt.html#ixzz0wW0slHRE - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3075750/Barmy-council-bans-mini-skirt.html#ixzz0wW0slHRE


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Salam/Peace,

Semar

"We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH)

"1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"



Replies:
Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 13 August 2010 at 4:38pm
Can the UK get anymore dull? Another means to control women lol


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 13 August 2010 at 11:36pm
How about controlling men?

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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.


Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 14 August 2010 at 8:31am
Well mini skirts would hardly control men. Besides in the U.S. Men are already controlled and in control. In most sexual harassment cases the man is considered at fault until otherwise proven. If a man proves he is sexually harassmed, social stigma sets in that makes him into a "weeny."

Let's no forget child custody 9 times out of ten the child goes to the mother unlesd father can prove she isn't a suitable parent. So men are controlled. As far as clothing men both men and women are controlled. In an office setting men and women wear business attire mini skirts are optional here but if its a problem they go to the boss not the government lol


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 14 August 2010 at 8:58am
It was a tongue in cheek!
If you have less leg to look at you might be a tad more productive and every bit helps and you may know the man is an animal first human later!


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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 14 August 2010 at 9:57pm
the government jumps in if you are a women and take your blouse off, like the construction guy who does that all the time without government giving him any trouble!  So listen all in the US, be aware you cannot take you tops off unless you are man.
I don't have a problem with that by the way.
Hasan


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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 14 August 2010 at 11:41pm
Sorry, I forgot this was the "Sister's Section".


Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 15 August 2010 at 10:19am
Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

In consideration of stomach sizes these days men should not be allowed to take their tops off either.�

Gibbs it's good that children more than likely go to women.� How many men are able to adequately take care of little kids?� I would venture to say that most men who fight for total custody do so seeking retaliation more than a desire to have their kids.� Unless of course the moms are really a threat to the kids well being.


I disagree. I think socially its typical for a child to go to the woman on the basis of women being "natural mothers" and commonly are in a single parenthood situation. However I believe regardless of gender the child needs to go to whichever parent that can financially, emotionally, and psychologically take care of a child. Just because your a woman doesn't mean you are a good parent or mother. I know mothers now who are definitely not fit to be a parent.


Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 15 August 2010 at 10:25am
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

It was a tongue in cheek!If you have less leg to look at you might be a tad more productive and every bit helps and you may know the man is an animal first human later!


SignReader please don't be offended as I smack you with a pillow lol

I agree one part you said. If a person stops looking at legs then he may be more productive. However a ban like this puts responsibility on the one wearing the clothes instead of those looking. Productivity is not halted by what a woman wears but the person whose responsibility it falls on.

So as the man sit and stares at sexy legs its his own fault for halting his job to look. As for men I'm a physically fit guy so I highly doubt women would be opposed to me taking my shirt off.....lol my wife gets mad when we go to the beach in Miami and I do this lol


Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 15 August 2010 at 10:09pm
As for men I'm a physically fit guy so I highly doubt women would be opposed to me taking my shirt off.....lol my wife gets mad when we go to the beach in Miami and I do this lol

TMI... TMI... too much information...


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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi


Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 15 August 2010 at 11:35pm
OMG that is not graphic please don't be a prude. I didn't describe anything but simply said physically fit and that comment was in response to another statement made here.


Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 11:39am
LOL..LOL

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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi


Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:


TMI... TMI... too much information...


Lol @ Hayfa.

*deleting the other comment because Gibbs did not take too kindly to my attempted humour*





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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."


Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 12:34pm
Sigh Chrysalis seriously the level of agony posting here is getting high. So now I have to watch my words. I'm sorry if I disclosed that I'm not fat with a beer belly. I'm sorry if I said something that reminds you of this guy. Look I think my time has ran out here Chrysalis and I really don't appreciate your comment. Look if my presence reminds you of such a negative figure I will leave. I'm done. Finished and have no more patience dealing with this bull****. I'm seriously sick and tired of this crap I'm sick of being respectful to people who are constantly accusing me. I'm sick of it! I can say a lot about you Chrysalis based off words but that isn't right. I can say a lot about the lack of intelligence of people in religion whether Jewish or Muslim but I don't. Chrysalis you have a lot of "chutzpah" to make that statement and I'm seriously sick of it. I wish I could use profane language because I'm so angry that I had to deal with this since I came here. This is freggin pathetic so yeah I'm done posting. This doesn't give me a negative experience of Islam per say just shows the st**idity and audacity of people.


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 1:16pm
Chrysalis
What was it? I missed the whole thing that made Gibbs so mad!

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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.


Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by Gibbs Gibbs wrote:

Sigh Chrysalis seriously the level of agony posting here is getting high. So now I have to watch my words. I'm sorry if I disclosed that I'm not fat with a beer belly. I'm sorry if I said something that reminds you of this guy. Look I think my time has ran out here Chrysalis and I really don't appreciate your comment. Look if my presence reminds you of such a negative figure I will leave. I'm done. Finished and have no more patience dealing with this bull****. I'm seriously sick and tired of this crap I'm sick of being respectful to people who are constantly accusing me. I'm sick of it! I can say a lot about you Chrysalis based off words but that isn't right. I can say a lot about the lack of intelligence of people in religion whether Jewish or Muslim but I don't. Chrysalis you have a lot of "chutzpah" to make that statement and I'm seriously sick of it.


Wow! I didn't expect such an adverse reaction on that comment! I really was amused at the co-incidence...and I said so....

Anyway my apologies if you didn't like that statement. I don't mind deleting it if you wish, because it was not my intention to re-start a tirade thread.

Like I have said before, I don't really care what pseudonyms people use, and whatever they say is good enough for me...and I thought I made that clear in the other threads as well. You should not be that concerned and worried about what people think of your identity and of you - since it is the internet afterall, and none of what we think of each other actually matters. Also just for the record, I have never once accused you of anything, including being *that person*. I believe this is the first time we have ever been involved in a "personal" discussion at all. So I am still wondering about the suddent outburst.... I cannot answer you on behalf of those who have "constantly accused" you or been disrespectful, - (so I don't where those accusations in your post came from) because I don't believe I have done that. I was honestly surprised that you took offense at this one.

Will address the rest in response to your PM.








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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 9:55pm
Hey guys:
 PL TAKE A LOOK AT THE TITLE OF THIS SECTION IT READS WOMEN (SISTERS)
All the comments after this thread was moved from general section are intrusions in sisters discussion goes without saying!
Gibbs/
There must be reason for this...when go out see the signs on the door 'women' it is self explanatory!
If sister Hayfa has a problem with a response, it is what it is ..."prude" was the comment but not necessarily the right one!
 
Then Chrysalis has deleted her comments and apologized for whatever they were, so just relax!

 But if you are done, then nice knowing you by your contributions here!

Again it is sister's section so I leave it at that!



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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.



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