Christian Evangelism and Islamic Fanaticism holds hands like two married couples who trot through the wilderness stepping over beautiful plants and animals. It's important to know that Evangelicals whom some are sincere in their belief, present a more extreme approach to Christianity. The premise is:

1) There is One God

2) Jesus is the Son of God

3) Jesus is the word of God

4) Jesus came down as God in the human form and became "flesh" and sacrificed himself through the premise of "sonship" so that his blood may purify humanity.

5) Those who do not subscribe to the the previous tenants are doomed for hell unless they repent and except that Jesus is Lord and Savior. Now before I even demolish the Islamic fanatics approach let's approach this topic. Christian Evangelism is unlike Catholicism or Mormonism or any other Christian faith, in fact, I see the Evangelicals as more of an extreme idealistic movement whose approach is more spiritually literal than most sects.

We the members of this forum have throughout the years have discussed the nature of Jesus in Christianity and in Islam, but in this moment I'd like to discuss the nature of Evangelicals who occupy the greater portion of what Christianity is not. Even before making a conversion one is already doomed. Even before acknowledging with simple words that "Jesus is my lord and savior" you were already going to hell. The premise that Jesus' blood purified the world prior to any religius law was in fact, sufficient enough. It took later until the formation of an organized Christian sect an offshoot of Judaism to form some hundreds of years after the death of Jesus.

I believe through the years its growth and evolution breeded many followers whom had many ideas. It is inevitible to have a sufficient religious faith without member deviation of its original princples. When we see Evangelicals preach to the world this is the prime example of deviation. The purpose of their message is the very line in the Bible in which Jesus tells his apostle to "Spread the good news to the world." The literalist among them followed thoe exact words. Little did they know in modern times after the growth of the Islamic empire there was a continuation of that message even in the countries where people were already following the Abrahamic tradition.

The problem with Evangelicals of today is that there are too many literalist in the group who are closed minded to the fact that there is more Abrahamic faiths than just Judaism and Christianity. It's also hypocritical of those leaders to denounces the legitimacy of Islam if one looks at the true context of what Islam means. To combat this ignorance the general population must recognize the purpose of this sect and must combat those among them who are not knowledgable of true Biblical or Quranic doctrine.

Islamic Fanaticism is no different. Their premise is quite similar if not the same which is:

1) There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger

2) One must believe all of the prerequisites of Allah before truly being accepted as a member.

3) On must wholeheardtely believe accept every word in the Qur'an

The problem with this is not the formation of such a decleration but how this decleration is acted out. Many so-called "jihadist" like the Evangelicals are literalist when it comes to doctrine. If the words says "kill the unbelievers" the literalist will take that for face value. Those who have not professed faith in the Islamic faith are considered as "unbelievers" and therefore are equated to those who have no religious or spiritual faith. To me not only is this ignorant of Islamic practice but ignorant of how Islam came to Arabia. When Muhammad was spreading the message in the Hijrah in Yathrib (Medina) he left the Jews alone for they worshiped the One God, and his only request was that they accept him as a legitimate prophet.

Even after the fallout of the Jews Jews throught the Islamic empire was free to worship as they please. It was only after the death of the prophet that fanaticism began to spread. Many Muslim adhrents began using the empire to spread their own goals some at the expense of other Muslim. Jealousy came into play and greed which eventually spill over into civil war (See the fall of Al-Analdus) and evntually the split in the Muslim community which now have over 20 sects. Fanaticism came through interpreting Holy doctrine with emotion. If one member of a society didn't get their way they consulted doctrine usually with the selfish mindset of satisfying themselves in hopes that the doctrine backed their cause. This is the same method that was used back then and is now used today.

Many Muslim terrorist who use doctrine to support their means are not only cowards, but are thinking backwards when it comes to the propagation of the Islamic faith. Like Judaism and Christianity the doctrinal law states that physical confrontation must be second and that diplomacy must be the first line of defense. Usually this isn't the case. When a group of people are affected by war or some type of strife they think physical, rather diplomatic. A similar problem with Evangelicals, but in their case its more spiritual warfare than physical. But the effect of both can be seen as the same because their outcome is still selfishly negative.

Not only is that a basic and typical answer but very contrary.......Should I bring up the articles concerning the Christian extremist who kill employees of abortion clinics in the name of Christianity? Should I also bring up the so-called "good christians" who hung as well as owned slaves in the south? These so-called good Christian who have thought the the enslaving of blacks was their right by God? History tells a different story. These are all literalist who have killeed throughout history!

>>>>>What is Christian belief if it does not center on the sacrifice of Jesus as the atoning work of God for sin.  There is no more basic Christian belief.  All Christians share this belief - it is not unique to evangelicals.<<<<<

I never said that this was unique only to just Evangelicals but I made a point in stating how thee Evangelicals are a group of extreme literalist who are nothing more than over-acheivers who claim to do God's work.

 

B, you've netierh dispelled nor stated anything which I dont already know....

first off you mentioned earlier that in comparison to Muslim extremeist there is a small percentage of Christian extremist in comparison to Muslim extremist..First and foremost the percentages I would assume is about the same the only difference is that Muslim extremism gets more media pub than Christian extremism your mathematical percentages are bias. Terroism is more likely in Cuba than in Western countries.

>>>>>It's disingenuous for you to compare one or two killings with thousands on the Muslim side and things like blowing up and shooting children as the mockers of Islam have done..that is not 'typical' or 'contrary' but simply facing facts.  You should do the same.<<<<<

Maybe if I lived in those countries I would have personally involved myself in helping stop extremism but I think its better for me to do my part here than worry about another individual over there if you haven't heard Muslims have been in the media doing their part. Second, you mention that these individuals have made a mockery of Islam. Only fools think that. Each act good or bad reflects on the invidual mind not the whole of the group. Third I dont have to do anything I dont want to nor should I be compelled to, if a person is dumb enough to believe the media and to believe almost over a billion Muslims are extremist then that person is not only ignorant of people, but ignorant in him/herself.

When I mentioned about the "good christians" who hung slaves you shy away and say its 2005. I find that part of Christianity relevant. If I could put in numbers as you have, I would say that the individuals who represented Christianity have killed more of humanity than Muslim invaders from post-prophet Muhammad era. Not only has Christians in the latter era of Jesus killed more people but has changed their laws numerous times. Muslim empires did no better but when I see you shying away from history and looking at today you bother me with you running away. Salem witch trials, WW2 nazis (yes some considered themselves Christians) Slavery, Manifest destiny...Should I continue?

You said Christians have deafeated them? Hmm let's see in the 1940's to the 60's there was still lynching, now this is modern 20th Century so who has defeated who? Abortion clinics are still getting bomb and shot at...Who's defeated who? You say that I drew a strict parallel line yes I did to those among them in Evangelical belief system who are literalist who believe in doing what the bible says for face value arather than evaluate its true meaning. I mean, those who repeat everything even the physical violence it contains. I suggest you try again!

As far as relevant to todays world.. there is certianly a very close connection to the current White House government and the Evangelical leaders... and note sure if they have any issue in kiling the 'heathens' in the Middle East. They voted heavily in 2004 to support the re-election of the current president.  Just because its covered up under the title of 'government' does not make it any less of a reality. They are not opposing an unjust and illegal entry. They have and currently support this madness.

We cannot disregard the past. Yes it is the past. But EVERYTHING happening today was affected by the "Evangelical' sector of Christianity's  effort to control other areas. To either enslave, colonize, kill on a mass scale you need to dehumanize or villify another.     

And I have heard Evangelicals call the Prophet (PBUH) a terrorist.  'very love thy neighbor' approach to things.