Shii and Sunni
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Topic: Shii and Sunni
Posted By: Heronblu
Subject: Shii and Sunni
Date Posted: 16 October 2010 at 11:18am
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Peace and blessings be upon you from a Christian who has recently gained an appreciation for Islam thanks to professor Esposito's book. I am attempting to understand how Shii and Sunni relate to one another. I have many questions about this, but I will only ask two.
1. Do Shii and Sunni Muslims ever or often share a mosque?
2. If not, would a Shii or Sunni who is visiting in a locale with only a mosque maintained by the other group consider going there for juma?
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Posted By: semar
Date Posted: 17 October 2010 at 8:17am
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Salaam/peace be upon you too.
I am a Sunni, if there is an option I will go to Sunni mosque. But if there is none, it's no problem for me to go and pray in a Shii mosque. The mosque also welcome me with open arms.
I have many Shii friends that have similar stand on this with me. Because there is no Shii mosque in our neighborhood, many of my Shii friends specially for Juma (Friday) prayer go to Sunni mosque, because they don't have time to drive "long" distance, as you know Friday prayer is about noon, it's a working hour. ------------- Salam/Peace, Semar "We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) "1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air" |
Posted By: Heronblu
Date Posted: 17 October 2010 at 11:22am
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Thank you. That is very helpful. Because of events in Iraq, many Americans have the perception that Sunni and Shii consider one another to be infidels, and I thought so, too, before Prof. Esposito's explication of Islam made me begin to wonder. I imagine that there are extremists on both sides who do feel that way, just as is true of Catholics and Protestants, sometimes. I also have several questions about the various law schools. Do Sunni generally consider the fatwahs from muftis of different law schools to all have equal weight? If not, what is to prevent a corrupt person from seeking a fatwah from a "friendly" mufti? Are fatwahs considered to be human opinions by learned men, or are they divinely inspired? |
Posted By: wdebsib
Date Posted: 12 November 2010 at 3:21am
| is it permitted to join Sunnis in their group prayers? |
Posted By: semar
Date Posted: 12 November 2010 at 11:57pm
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Yes you can. It is permited.
Sunia nd histi prayer are very much the same both the reading/recitation and the movement. Moereover nobody ask, whterhe you suni or shii when you join a salat anayway ------------- Salam/Peace, Semar "We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH) "1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air" |
Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 14 November 2010 at 1:43am
I haven't read what Esposito has written...So far invasion of Iraq is concerned the Shii did they were part of that plan if you remember Ahmed Chilabi a bankster who sat with Americans and weaved stories to push invasion! It was evident they wanted the power so they were in cahoots with the Zionists neocons on that...It is no secret you can read their background at your leisure... The fun part is that US and the neoconservative inadvertently strengthened the hand of the Iranians in that area and now feel miffed at the sorry state of the things in that neighborhood! I am not sure what game the US was playing; seems the MIC has received a 60 Billion dollar contract from the scared Saudis just recently and answers the question! The less informed Sunnis may not delve into this but there were no Shiit mosques' setup in the US prior to revolution in Iran; they had Imam houses not exactly mosques...The Iraq invasion has precipitated a watershed in whatever goodwill had developed amongst the Shiit and Sunni people in the west...If any Sunni is well informed about the current neocolonialism where the Sunnis are being suppressed and Shiits are being picked the favorites of Washington doesn't bode well for the two groups coming together! So under these circumstances one has to think and make a right decision and not follow the crowd! If I had my druthers following a Shiit is a no no! Before Iraqi and Afpak invasion was different! The Sunni school of thought is like a building that is has divine foundations and the Prophet built some of the structure to settle himself and his companions and then learned Muslims who followed them added to it to accommodate the new tenants and finally the later generations filled some of the gaps! The Sunnis can't go shopping for the Fatawa in west cuz there is no structure available to furnish such institutions in this regard...But if there is a properly authorized Sheikh available on assignment from one of the four schools he should be able to give the proper guidance in some complicated situation as appropriate according to seeker's school! In the age of internet the answers are readily available for the problem! As you mentioned if a person is corrupt then nothing can prevent him from harming himself and others, fatawa or no fatwa...Then ultimately person has to face God anyways! Any one who as plays with fatawa shopping is literally playing with fire of hell! The Fatawa are based the following! First.Quraan.....This is the divine foundation, most answers are found here! Second . The Prophetic Tradition( authentic) Called Sunnah...This structure was built by the Prophet living the Quraan in his life time to show his companions how to build up as required with changing time and circumstances... Third. The Con-census of knowledgeable Muslims (Al Ijma) This was the democratic way of running the republic's needs & Fourth. Anology(al Qiyas) Look at the rest make a good call...The believers analogous opinion based on all the above! ------------- Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction. |
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