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Topic: Honoring Julian Assange
Posted By: Sign*Reader
Subject: Honoring Julian Assange
Date Posted: 25 October 2010 at 11:44pm


http://www.counterpunch.com/mcgovern10252010.html -

http://www.counterpunch.com/mcgovern10252010.html - http://www.counterpunch.com/mcgovern10252010.html





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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 26 October 2010 at 12:08am

An Open Letter on the Needed Response to  Wikileaks Report

http://www.counterpunch.com/stieber10222010.html - - By JOSH STIEBER



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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 26 October 2010 at 7:25am
 The http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/17/wikileaks/index.html - smear campaign


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 28 October 2010 at 1:49am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8091952/Julian-Assange-to-Larry-King-you-should-be-ashamed.html - Julian Assange to Larry King: 'you should be ashamed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8091952/Julian-Assange-to-Larry-King-you-should-be-ashamed.html%20 -



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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 28 October 2010 at 6:42am

"It is not right to bring in sensational and, in fact, false claims, a relatively trivial matter compared to the deaths of 109,000 people ... CNN should be ashamed of doing that. And you, Larry, you actually should be ashamed as well."

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 02 November 2010 at 12:07am

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/23/julian-assange-walks-out-_n_772837.html - WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange walked out of an interview with CNN in London.


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Posted By: kerryp
Date Posted: 03 November 2010 at 4:48am
well thats a tendency modern journalism has in general..unfortunately


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 09 December 2010 at 8:51pm
Is this guy for real? Is he a distraction from the real problems!




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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 10 December 2010 at 1:56am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101209/wl_afp/usdiplomacywikileaks - Putin leads backlash over WikiLeaks boss detention





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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 15 December 2010 at 1:02am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/10/ron-paul-wikileaks-defense_n_795014.html - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/10/ron-paul-wikileaks-defense_n_795014.html



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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 15 December 2010 at 1:59pm

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/why-im-posting-bail-money - Why I'm Posting Bail Money for Julian Assange



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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 15 December 2010 at 2:03pm
 
 

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/394939/assange_won_readers_poll%2C_but_time_chooses_zuckerberg_for_person_of_the_year/#paragraph3 - Assange Won Readers' Poll, But TIME Chooses Zuckerberg for Person of the Year



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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 17 December 2010 at 12:33am
I completely support the exposure of lies, corruption and other illegal behavior. But the latest Wikileaks coup is unethical to say the least:

�The controversial whistleblower site published the cable late on Sunday, listing potential targets that experts told British daily The Times were a gift for terrorist organisations. The list of critical infrastructure and key resources located abroad detailed hundreds of pipelines, important data cables, and businesses belonging to international industrial and pharmaceutical giants. If destroyed, these sites could damage US interests, the diplomatic communique said.

In Germany such sites included the BASF headquarters in Ludwigshafen, which was described as the world�s largest integrated chemical complex, and Hamburg�s port. Other crucial sites include the northwestern coastal city of Norden and the North Sea island of Sylt, where two important underwater data and communication cables connecting North America and Europe reach land. The list was the result of a February 2009 order from Washington for officials to compile a list of international assets critical for the United States.

The plants of industrial giant Siemens were also listed for essentially irreplaceable production of key chemicals and the production of hydroelectric dam turbines and generators. Other companies included Dr�ger Safety in the northern German city of L�beck, critical to gas detection capability, and Junghans Fienwerktechnik in the southern city of Schramberg, critical to the production of mortars. A number of German pharmaceutical companies that produce critical vaccines, medications and medical tests, including insulin and a small pox vaccine, were also included on the list.�

http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101206-31623.html - http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101206-31623.html

There are people in Germany who live or work near these sites. And many of them are now very worried or even terrified.

This is psychological warfare. Wikileaks has become an ally of Al-Qaeda. Besides killing people, their goals include spreading fear.



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Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 17 December 2010 at 5:32pm

This is psychological warfare. Wikileaks has become an ally of Al-Qaeda. Besides killing people, their goals include spreading fear.

Ha, and who is hell=bent on enhancing that "fear?" Who truly benefits from this monetarily? who will continue to exploit this fear? Who is getting rich off of everything that has done in the last 10 years? 


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Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 2:06pm

Matt,

 
I posed another question in another category I believe politics:
 
"Suppose there was a secret about the end of the world iun 2012, would you want to hear such news from Wikileaks?"
 
I believe lies should be exposed but from who is the question? truth has become relative, not a goal of these people behind these websites.


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 5:53pm
Originally posted by Gibbs Gibbs wrote:

I believe lies should be exposed but from who is the question? truth has become relative, not a goal of these people behind these websites.

Come again!
Since when the truth became relative? Yes it may be relative in the halls of power that common schmuck has no access to...

BTW I  reckon IC is a website ...Wink


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Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 18 December 2010 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by Matt Browne Matt Browne wrote:


http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101206-31623.html - http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101206-31623.html

There are people in Germany who live or work near these sites. And many of them are now very worried or even terrified.

This is psychological warfare. Wikileaks has become an ally of Al-Qaeda. Besides killing people, their goals include spreading fear.

Aren't you implying that there are only people living in Germany and areas in the west by some logic places like Afpak don't count ? The hapless and harmless villagers being pulverized by the fire power of video games consoles operators somewhere in your yonder are of no value and consequence! It is just fun and games just like the Baghdad video released by Assange clearly depicts!
Being a Christian can you look up in your Bible and find some justification beside? You seem more worried about the trinkets of western materialism than the flesh and blood of women and children scattered to the wind by drone shots!
How much mileage you intend to get out this Alqaeda spreading fear nonsense? The German Chancellor & her Defense Minister can can take tour with her wife of  Afghan site of occupation seeing no such fear! what gives?

Finally as your signatures imply "transparency" so let's  practice that instead of fear mongering from the ignorant!  You and I know the biggest bankster heist took place that was covered up by the lying politicians while the aggression of choice was in progress! Do you still trust the media?

I am not sure what the heck is going on

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/if-we-lose-our-internet-freedoms-because-of-wikileaks-you-should-at-least-know-why/ - If We Lose our Internet Freedoms Because of Wikileaks, You Should At Least Know Why




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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 9:21am
Originally posted by Hayfa Hayfa wrote:


This is psychological warfare. Wikileaks has become an ally of Al-Qaeda. Besides killing people, their goals include spreading fear.

Ha, and who is hell=bent on enhancing that "fear?" Who truly benefits from this monetarily? who will continue to exploit this fear? Who is getting rich off of everything that has done in the last 10 years? 


I agree. The ultra-conservative American politicians benefit as well. But the ordinary people don't. So no need to get cynical.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 9:23am
Originally posted by Gibbs Gibbs wrote:

Matt, 
I posed another question in another category I believe politics:
 
"Suppose there was a secret about the end of the world iun 2012, would you want to hear such news from Wikileaks?"
 
I believe lies should be exposed but from who is the question? truth has become relative, not a goal of these people behind these websites.


Well, 2012 is a conspiracy theory based on an ancient Mayan calendar and pseudoscience.

These terrorist targets are real. Wikileaks should not publish them



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 9:25am
Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by Matt Browne Matt Browne wrote:


http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101206-31623.html - http://www.thelocal.de/national/20101206-31623.html

There are people in Germany who live or work near these sites. And many of them are now very worried or even terrified.

This is psychological warfare. Wikileaks has become an ally of Al-Qaeda. Besides killing people, their goals include spreading fear.

Aren't you implying that there are only people living in Germany and areas in the west by some logic places like Afpak don't count ? The hapless and harmless villagers being pulverized by the fire power of video games consoles operators somewhere in your yonder are of no value and consequence! It is just fun and games just like the Baghdad video released by Assange clearly depicts!
Being a Christian can you look up in your Bible and find some justification beside? You seem more worried about the trinkets of western materialism than the flesh and blood of women and children scattered to the wind by drone shots!
How much mileage you intend to get out this Alqaeda spreading fear nonsense? The German Chancellor & her Defense Minister can can take tour with her wife of  Afghan site of occupation seeing no such fear! what gives?

Finally as your signatures imply "transparency" so let's  practice that instead of fear mongering from the ignorant!  You and I know the biggest bankster heist took place that was covered up by the lying politicians while the aggression of choice was in progress! Do you still trust the media?

I am not sure what the heck is going on

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/if-we-lose-our-internet-freedoms-because-of-wikileaks-you-should-at-least-know-why/ - If We Lose our Internet Freedoms Because of Wikileaks, You Should At Least Know Why




Any publication of terrorist target lists in any country is unethical. I just picked one example, because I stumbled upon this article.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Gibbs
Date Posted: 21 December 2010 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by Matt Browne Matt Browne wrote:

Originally posted by Gibbs Gibbs wrote:

Matt, 
I posed another question in another category I believe politics:
 
"Suppose there was a secret about the end of the world iun 2012, would you want to hear such news from Wikileaks?"
 
I believe lies should be exposed but from who is the question? truth has become relative, not a goal of these people behind these websites.


Well, 2012 is a conspiracy theory based on an ancient Mayan calendar and pseudoscience.

These terrorist targets are real. Wikileaks should not publish them

 
Supposed that it isn't? My point is, is that there is no benefit in posting classified information


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 22 December 2010 at 4:38pm
The question was answered by the man himself...Do you have 25 minutes to watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4Qo&feature=player_embedded#%21 -



Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 26 December 2010 at 11:09am
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/22/lind_wikileaks/index.html - http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/12/22/lind_wikileaks/index.html


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 27 December 2010 at 12:44am
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/12/26/wikileaks-michael-lind-and-the-new-nationalism/ - Justin Raimondo has taken Lind to task for this!

It is getting quite heated amongst the liberals and that is amusing .


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