DESERTS GREEN? ISLAMIC MANIFEST? LOOK....
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Topic: DESERTS GREEN? ISLAMIC MANIFEST? LOOK....
Posted By: Abdu-Rahman,Kai
Subject: DESERTS GREEN? ISLAMIC MANIFEST? LOOK....
Date Posted: 25 August 2005 at 4:30am
A.S.A!
I am interested about all science and bible (and history) oriented
proofs on behalf of Islam, from all fields, and I think I have found
some that maybe non-other has noticed before, so please help
translating and spreading them, to increase faith of us all (it surely
did it for me, very strong reasons why I accepted Islam, I put many
links if some will not open in one hour due to high traffic) :
This all is from my book in:
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YOU CAN READ IT ALL AS ONE WHOLE WRITING:
http://www.geocities.com/sciencekoran/index.html
OR THEN AS EACH AREA ON DIFFERENT SECTIONS ON THESE LINKS:
http://www.geocities.com/sciencekoran/Islam.html
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http://www.geocities.com/sciencekoran/muslims.html
http://www.geocities.com/sciencekoran/muslim.html
Here is prophecy I personally thought some way to happen:
Book 005, Number 2208:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as
saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and
overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and
cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia
becomes meadows and rivers.
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
1.DESERTS GREEN? (Allah knows best)
If
mankind is on earth during next ice age (signs from it already there,
like Golf-stream slowing down 20% in last five years period, some
scientist predict that Britain might have climate of Alaska in next 20
years), deserts of arabs (Sahara+Middle-East) is going to be green, as
they were during last ice age when black africans inhabitated even
nowadays deserts of Libya. This has been mentioned in prophecy and
hadith of prophet Muhammed (puh), as he said that "deserts of arabs
will once again be filled with rivers and gardens".Noticeably here is
for example satellite pictures taken from Saudi-Arabian desert, In
these pictures anyone can clearly see old river streams going under
desert, and from there founded remains of gardens and aggricultural
activity. So Muhammed knew without proofs that during last ice age area
was green, And so it will be during next ice age after chenge in
climate and rainfalls. But this prophecy does not exclude possibility
that humans themselves could make them green, as their actions would
anyway be originated from Allah, and it could happen this way:
In Sahara there is these huge "pools", higher ground surrounded lower
areas which are these huge "pools" on desert, that some has even big
areas under sea-level in bottom of these "pools". These pools mostly
are located very near coast-line, and with pumps and pipes of few
hudred kilometers these "pools" could be filled with sea-water, until
vaporasing (increasing while wideness of "pools" would expand) would
match water flowing in, when surface of "pools" would stop rising and
around them would be coming huge oasises (as sand filters salt from
sea-water, when few meters from coast of these "pools" would be easy to
get fresh water with dwells and pumps), and these oasises could reach
kilometers inland as water travels far away in sand. For aggricultural
activities and inhabitation there would be huge areas to be used, these
"pools" would be biggest lakes in the world.
But
real meaning of these pools would be elsewhere, because vaporising from
those would be huge in world�s warmest areas with most heat radiation
from sun (without clouds). Water-steam would for clouds filled with
water, that would be going with major winds to south and east (for
example as turned by coriolis-force) into mountains middle of Sahara
and mountains west in Arabian peninsula, forming rains at least finally
there. It would form rivers and lakes into area, from which there is
obvious signs around mountains in middle of Sahara from past times
(from last ice age, when Sahara was inhabitated by black africans).
Reason
why these "pools" would change situation so radically is that
air-masses rise to upper layors of athmosphere from equator, until
arriving to north and coming down at 30�-line east-west (at coast of
Libya/Egypt), and go from there as winds we notice to south and north,
leaving winds going south without moisture from Mediterrean Sea, as
winds going to north (Europe) will have all of it. So only way to get
moisture to Sahara is to move water-masses from Medterrean Sea to these
"pools" under this 30�-line to vaporise (Mediterrean Sea will have
water more through gibraltar straits from Atlantic).
(19)
Only
bad side this could have would be destruction of unhabitated waste-land
desert, when besides worthless deserts there would be lots of land
suitable for aggricultural and living use, providing living for
millions of unemployment workers and people without land (believe me,
deserts will be green as long as they get enough water, seeds for
plants have come there by wind, in nature-document water was poured in
top of dune and green plant rose from it, dying without water until it
got more water and got back to life). Here would be huge opportunities
for profits, buy worthless desert and change it for aggricultural use,
even possibly oil could be trilled from bottom of these pools and
transported to coast by ships (cheaper than by trucks) or by
underwater-pipes (no danger of sabotage). Also water pumping from under
Libyan desert would get more fresh water below desert sand from these
pools. These ideas can be expanded by even redirecting rivers just
before it will end into oceans, so that fresh water of it will not be
�wasted� but used to water deserts. Examples from this kind of
possibility is end of Eufrat and Tigris, that could go through Kuwait
and eastern Saudi-Arabia by channel to south on low lands. Another
example could be rivers of Siberia turned to water Central-Asia instead
of flowing to north, as global warming is reducing risk that Ice-Sea
could be frozen without these rivers flowing into it.
2.ISLAMIC MANIFEST? (Allah knows best)
How
would sound like succesful society without need and poverty with
prospering corporations and business, where one could get rich also by
normal work? This is what prophecy of Muhammed told us above. I tought
about ideal society, and realized where it could be done first: In
Saudi-Arabia. Basics is oil, (In Saudi-Arabia about 80% of worlds oil
reserves), so that system can be made running. Saudi-Arabia was able to
offer each of its citcens "citizen�s salary" evan at 1990�s, that was
back then around 330 euro per citizen. Now oil prices have gone five or
six times higher from that, so why not pursude for more?
What if
government would pay for corporations and business-makers all products
and services bought by citizens (in certain limits of reason perhaps in
the beginning, maybe favoring domestic companies)? So every citizen
would get basic living standards (basic commodities like food, clothes,
medicine, education health care, etc..) completely free of charge, and
car and apartment with certain limits from which more expensive part
they should pay with money coming from their own
work/business/investments/savings (for example apartments 1/citizen,
car each 10 years, and if you want to buy more or more expensive going
beyond limits agreed, then you need to make your own money for it or
sell old ones in exchange).
This kind of
explosive increase in spending (when nobody would need to think in
shops what they can afford, just what they want and need) would get
companies, employment and economics to prosper, and so on as people
would not need to use even their smallest incomes into basic living,
they would have change to invest by them selves (into foreign
countries/domestically) or to found (even small basar) business that
they could larger with even more investments and risks, as there would
not be risk from total collapse of living standarts even in case of
bankcrupcy (that would be unlikely due to higher domestic spending).
There would neither be any "traps" preventing from taking jobs with
lower salary, as all one could earn would be only plus (when staying
only on social security could achieve only certain level of living
without hope for better, but almost all people are so greed that they
always want more). This way working would come REAL way to wealth and
even for getting rich if salary is invested right. Founding business
would be easy as government would pay expenses in the beginnig.
Of course this system could be risked by some efforts to take use of
this system, like that (foreign) companies would try to sell too
expensively with rip-off prices increasing inflation (to regulate
prices government could found own government businesses into all areas
of economics, with 50% of shares distributed evenly to all citizens,
and took government payment-guarantee from companies trying to exploid
system, then ordinary people should favor state-companies getting some
money back instead of government losing it, and they too through
government/government-companies shares losings, and favor other their
favorite companies so that those selling with too high prices would be
forced to lower their prices and not to lose governments
payment-guarantee, when customers would have to pay from their favorite
commodities/services from their own money, salary), until this system
would expand even further to other countries (first to other
oil-countries like Irak and Libya). From these countries wealth and
investments would spread by through totally welcomed workers from other
countries (with their families), who would be given from (at least for
quite regular) working same benefits, when they again could invest
their money further (into own countries for example), increasing wealth
there too.
Soon situation could be that state and
people would have got so rich even only from their investments in
shares and ownings in foreing companies/lands, that state would make so
much profit they would not have to stop system even when oil runs out,
and so positive circle of investments and increased spending would go
on. This system would work in political multiparty-system, where people
would monitore state actions in putting recommended reasonable prices
and policies in running people-owned business (if state would try to
make prices too low, income from shares for people would suffer, and
their other own/favorite privately owned businesses might end).
As
a sign from "Judgement Day" is given also (in hadiths) that sun goes
from west to east (and said that after that "no repetance will be
accepted", from those who die in chosen state of non-muslim or after
abandoning Islam (twice), except "people without knowledge" who will
not be punished from their sins according to Islam, mentioned for
example in 16:25, 9:6 and also undirectly in 2.120 "...Wert thou to
follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then
wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against Allah."), and
that is exactly what it does in the north summer time as "midnight
sun", when it does not even set on all days but can be seen over north
pole on opposite side of earth whole night, going from west to east.
Muslims have reached this north only recently (I, as local-born finnish
male accepting Islam from Rovaniemi, first know case in mosque, in
2003), and we have to remember that Koran and hadiths have been written
and given for muslims, so this is a new "sign" for muslims (sign is
sign only after somebody who it has been ment will see and understands
it). Maybe new period of more demandings in people living north has
began, as knowledge has reached also us. If it is a sign, it can also
mean time when there is muslim-dominant nation in the north (of
midnight sun), perhaps in Siberia after oil runs out/comes obsolote and
Russia has no use for this area, if they care to make a deal.
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NEW VERSION, AND LOT MORE NEW (IN LINKS AND MAIN PAGE):
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Posted By: Abdu-Rahman,Kai
Date Posted: 26 August 2005 at 1:03am
And
when Koran says that on "Judgement Day" (different than "Judgement"?
Same as "Hour"? Does Judgement come at some point of that "Day"? Lenght
of that "Day"? Is Earth destroyed before universum on that "Day"?)
Islam will be "only religion accepted", does it mean on the judgement
or after some time limit (after beginning of "Judgement Day"-period,
that could be period of prophet Jesus coming back and more challenging
future for humans after his death, when Koran has been made easy to
understand and accept after progress in science and information)? It
means anyway (according to 3:85) that to be punished you have to
"desire/seek other religion than Islam", meaning that you had
opportunity to receive Islam (and compare its message for example
foundings on modern science, and found it proven as truth) but you did
not, as Allah says in Koran that He will punish only those who have
been given Islam but then refused it. Allah does not punish without
warning, and that is why Allah says in Koran (Sura number 2) that "good
People of the Book" (f.ex. jews and christians) will be saved (+in
Islam also "people without knowledge"), because before 20th century
opportunities even to read Koran translated into own language (if even
knew how to read) were few. But now might be time when jews and
christians should at least accept Islam, now when in 20th century lived
more people than on all earlier centuries put together (in 21th century
even quicker), Allah still would have spoken true if He ment by
punishing non-believers (democratically) majority of them.
In Islam is prophecy that "light of Islam" will penetrate every land
(/country) before Judgement. In Asia Islam has entered every country,
even (communist North-) Korea has had numerous korean muslims as
refugees in (northern) China for centuries. It has now done it also
outside Asia and Africa (where refugees spread Islam), and through
internet. Latin americans have had prosperous Islamic history of
Andalucia for hundreds of years in Spain, and Portugal, and after
expulsion of muslims (at same time when America were founded) there
were small part of muslims from slaves brought to America, and after
that iberians had to choose religion of the slaves to find Truth (in
Cuba muslims are even now prisoners in Guantamo-base of USA, that has
been part of Cuba). In Latin America there is also possibility that
muslims found it first, as there has been found old arabic writing (for
example "Allah") from Brasilia, and signs in what christians did to
indians in whole continent. Catholism with its praying for saints is
also closer to hinduism than monotheism.
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NEW VERSION, AND LOT MORE NEW (IN LINKS AND MAIN PAGE):
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=102 1115
"KINGDOM OF GOD", ISLAM:
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/islam
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