In the name of God, the infinitely good, the merciful

It is important to note that the premise of the Qur'an is the belief in the oneness of God, his messenger and his glorious word crystallized in the book called "Al-Qur'an." The Qur'an being the Umm al-kitab is the book in which is universal to all the people on this planet, be it Muslim or non-Muslim. It values reaches to all and its words penetrate the very foundation of the human spirit. What its important to note is that in the Exordium (The Opening) the beginning chapter of the Qur'an states:

"In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful

All praises are due to Allah the Cherisher and Sustainer of all th worlds!"

Of course we all know that in the Islamic faith Allah is the Creator of all forms of life and death in the universe. We all know that the Islamic faith is a monotheistic faith and that its roots are grounded within the Judeo-Christian traditions. We all know that Muhammad is considered a great prophet and is the "Seal of the prophets" from the Biblical prophets to its Islamic prophets.

We must understand the pluralism behind the knowledge of Allah in the Qur'an and to those who share this belief we must identify with it. Islamic spirituality is not inclusive as OT Judaism would have it. Islamic faith nor the belief in Allah does not belong to one ground not even to the Muslims, but to all of human kind. It is of exemplary faith that we (Muslims) show that the inclusiveness of Quranic doctrine it would draws people to the positives of Islam. It is with inclusiveness that we can make Dawah to those whose knowledge is limited of Islam.

Many Christians and Jews limited in the philosophies of Islam hold the limited aspects and those we must expand through our humble explanations of Islamic doctrine. Allah or Al-illah (The God) is the universes God. When Muslims pray it is not just to pray to a Muslim God but to pray to an intelligence whose being is incomprehensible, but to reunite ourselves with him through our submission. In these moments of prayer and silence we can come into communication with the divine. But thse prerequesites of faith are not only complimentary, but also the pluralistic speech of Islamic spirituality is mandatory.

In the name of God, ther merciful the compassionate!

All praise is due to Allah, his dominion are the heavens and beyond and his creation magnify his glory and may he rest in his infinite blessing the beloved prophet Muhammad ibn' Abd'ullah Ameen

While read ing the Qur'an I read over an interesting passsage which is the chapter itself called "Al-Ma'arij which means "The ways of Ascent" according to Yusuf Ali it means "silver stairways that go up." In this passage we can definitely say that Allah is "Dhu Al-Ma'arij" or "the Lord of the ways of ascent." Another thought in mind in this is that though we cannot physically come near to God we can be spiritually aligned through our conscious effort of remembrence via prayer.

I think that you mean God as he has revealed himself in Islam? Just as he has revealed himself to Christianity and also other faiths? There is only one God, isn't it?

I like to make that comment just to avoid the polarising effect on God's being in "God of Islam, of Christianity, etc ".

It may also help in our mind setting and make us closer toward each other.

Thanks,

Tom.

What do you exactly want explain with your "the God of Islam is a God of humanity?" What direction do you want to go to?

Because of many "inhumane" expressions and actions on the part of Moslems? Personally it is really confusing for me, and many other Christians.

It would be more meaningful if you could quote some verses underlying your topic.

Thanks.-

Tom.-

Greetings Thomas,

The following is proof from the Qur'an that Allah is the God of humanity. though I only quote one verse its literal meaning is common sense:

First the Arabic version:

"Bismi'llah ir-Rahman ir-Raheem

Alhamdulilahi Rabbil Alamin!"

English:

In the name of God the most gracious, the most merciful.

All praise is due to Allah Rabbil (Lord) Alamin ( of all that exist!)

Since Allah is the Lord of all that exist which also encompasses the universe and humans being the inhabitants of such a reality it is thus proven that Allah is the Lord of all humans.

Would it be fair to say that though the Quran is considered the last book that there will not be amendments made to it as society reaches maturity.

Ie 1400 years ago it may have been acceptable to cut someones hands off or stone someone but in todays society this is not acceptable and therefor education, counseling, consultation with prayer has to be True Justice in that should steps in improving over all education levels of mankind they would resort less to stealing or adultery becuase the education of True Justice would be more manifest in the communities and therefore it is more likely people given better education and training would fall less freguently to this ills of society.

Myself I believe Islam, the Process of Islam (Submitting our will to Allah) learning to be good people would be more evident and therefore people would have as I mentioned less reasons to resort to such behavior because they would be educated and trained properly how to deal with the issues they are faced with on a daily basis.

One cannot contain Islam in a single book nor even all the books ever wrote for Islam is much more than that and Islam transcends all life regardless of what religion we belong to for it is all expressions of the evolution of Islam.

Salam Alaikoam

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Salaam,

Islam is neither contained nor inclusive here in this matter what I was quoting Thomas was clear proof that Allah does not belong to a religion, class or ethnic group. In regards to Islam the Qur'an is the recitation of the truth that was forgotten among the paganistic Arabs. This truth the recital being the last revelation of God among the Abrahamic faiths is a truth which expells the myths and legends that humans have composed throughout the centuries of existence. It is with this truth that it ascends far above other doctrines and sayings because it is our most recent revealtion. In regards to other religions Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhist, Sikhs, Hindus and the like all are creations of the God of the universe. Whatever name you call Allah it is him whom you refer to. God says in the Qur'an that our differences will be quelled on the day of judgement, such infinite wisdom and mercy from our lord is Crystallized in the Qur'an! How dare do we amend that? There should be no amendment to the Qur'an for it is the truth from Allah....

True some Muslims may wish that all Islam is contained in one book, however revealations flow from Allah like the Ocean His guidance is endless.

Allah reveals like the ocean always allowing Pearls of Wisdom to flow to Mankind in an endless flow as long as there is a person alive to recieve the revealations and recite them to others or themselves.

The Human Rights Act is a revealation from Allah as are many other laws that make society a better place to live.

For the person who created the stop sign it was a revealation from Allah, the person who made the first electricity was a revealation from Allah, the first telephone was a revealation from Allah, PLanes are a revealation from Allah, transplant surgery is a revealation from Allah, Medications are a revealation from Allah as are many other things the world of existence and all that is contain is a stream of steady revealation from Allah and it is now we must enjoin in an Inter Faith Call to Jihad to Educate, Counsel, Consult, Pray with Living Prayers and make Hajj to all levels of our lives and community and where there is need address it.

Inshallah a Great Sorting Out Surah 99, 1-8 and establish more education and counseling and consultation groups to resolve personal issues and make Family and Community life better for everyone.

The world has less than 100 years to turn the tide.

So if you are person suffering from ill health or poor family or Community Circustance I am here to say there is hope and it begins with each of us. Canada has many groups already established and working that if people from other countries were trained they could export such groups there such as Drug and Alchol recovery groups, grouips for Healthy Boundaries, Learning Godd Communication Skills, Learning Good Conflict resolution Skills, Family Planning Skills, Parenting Skills, Healthy Relationship Skills.

As I see it Canada and all Nations are in the State or Stages of Islam in degress and it is time to call them all to the table and let them know time is running out for the Earth cannot sustain things at the rate they are going and there needs to be change.

It does not mean anyone has to go without it means everyone has to share and care more.

Call me crazy if you want but this is what I believe and know.

There will be nothing Allah can do when the last fish is gone or the last glass of clean water gone.

No we have to do our part to make the world a better place and we have the people educated for the most part and hopefully soon trained to do the work.

It is time to Call the Nations and People again to Islam , the Renewal of Islam. ie the Renewal of the Process of Learning to be a Good Person and abide by the will of God, Allah or whatever Creation force you may believe in.

There is hope and this hope can be built on.

Salam Alaikoam

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

All Knowledge is Islamic in Nature even some of the bad stuff in a way as it is meant to test us, just like Moses was on the Mountain, Jesus in the Desert, Buddha under the Bodhi Tree and Mohammed PBUH in our daily lives for we are all Messengers of God, Allah and everything we say or do is a test of sorts so we ask ourselves is this something good or bad and should we continue doing it or following it etc.

The one thing about knowledge it is all Islamic in Nature as I said for it is all an expression of the evolution of Islam and the process of learning how to be a good person.

What does Hafiz mean?

Salam

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Thanks Israfil for your quote, which I know already. So does God reveal himself in the Bible, that he is God for humanity.

I was just wondering what you are aiming at, Israfil, to start a topic like that. Uncertain that few people know that? Or what exactly?

I'd say that the sequel to that declaration is very imporrtant : that's why we all have to listen to him, God. And here I again reiterate : that we, of various faiths,have to listen what God is saying through our respective faiths, what he says in the Bidle, i the Qur'an. Because my very strong perception is that we just doesn't listen to what the other has heard from God.

Just look at most of the postings, most are attacks to the other faiths, are preachings, and when explained, just keep a deaf ear, with no further inquiries. And, one just tend to speak for the other faith ....

So what is the problem, really?

Thanks.

Tom.-

Thomas peace to you and may God guide your curiousity,

God (Allah) is indeed the God of the Bible and the God of the Taurat (Torah) and also the God of the Buddhist. In the Bible it says "In the beginning God created" same with Quranic theology. In the beginning God existed and created. As for other religions Allah commands that there is no compulsion in religion. Mankind is aware of what is right and wrong and we with our intellect have the choice to choose and make our own decisions. However its unfortunate many Muslims condemn other religious faiths because they do not share their views. But Thomas let me remind you there are Muslims here and abroad who condemn other Muslims for simple minded ignorance.

God is not locked in a doctrinal interpretation of a book. God is not some idea of a small boy or an Imam. I agree with the immortal words of the Jewish Philosopher Moses Maimonides in saying that God being beyond the comprehension of man, man struggles to understand even the glimpse of his glory so we therefore assemble our puzzle mind to understand what we know of ourselves and our religion.

Sister Ann "Haifz" means to bless

I would have to agree all of God, Allah cannot be contained in a book though Mankind may through inspiration reveal secrets of His Revealations and reveal mysteries that once were unravelable.

The Power of Mankind may not be as Great as Allah however certainlty in some applications man tries to act like God, Allah when it comes to saving livings and who they are going to save.

Allah, God created this world and if man is not careful all the resources will be gone and then everyone will suffer.

So we have to be gaurdians for Allah, God and care for oneanother and the world.

Israfil : That God through Islam is a God for humanity is for certain, I don't doubt it [though many still don't, I'm sure].

But I also firmly believe that God through Christianity is also God for humanity. This is clearly said in the Bible. He is the same God.

Thanks.-

Tom.-

Technically speaking labels such as Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu, Seik, Sunni, Shia, Orthodoxed, Catholic, Protestant all vanish in the realms of Heaven as there is only one religion or Spiritual practice and that is Islam ie submitting our will to God, Allah or ie the process of learning to be good people which is done in stages and degrees each to their capacity whether here on this plain or in the next plain of the other Spiritual world.

In the end there are unversal laws that everyone need abide by especially the Human Rights Act.

Then there are some basics that apply to everyone regardless of culture, fincial status, educationial level and they are to learn Healthy Boundaries, Good Communications Skills, Good Conflict Resolution Skills, Parenting Skills, Problem Solving Skills, Education in how to cope with Sexual Health and the stages and levels of sexual frustration so as to prevent child molestations and rape and misuse of our expression of our sexual self and ensuring our respect and good treatment of anyone we choose to have relations with, though marriage is prefered but if your going to do it at least care about the one you have relations with and respect them.

These are just a few training programs we need in greater number as well as fincial management, planning our future and education plans.

God, Allah does not just exist out there in the universe He exists within each of us in part and we need to honour His presence in us and strive to become the best we can be towards positive ends like becoming healthier and happier.

This means we have to take a look at our lives, consult our families and friends and a counselor maybe to determine where we need to focus our efforts and where we need community assistance and Family support.

We are the Army of God, Allah, we are His Hands, We are His Feet, We are His Voice, We are His Eyes, We are His Messengers and each of our lives there are many Messages ie parables or stories from which many things can be learned and in raising the Station of each of us to Noble and deserving of care, guidance and protection we will in time become Wonderful Gaurdians for All The Creations of Allah, God and His Presence within us and all around us and who knows maybe Arks of Space vehicles will take pairs of animals two by two to other planets to populate them.

If we want to do this as our population grows then we must make more efforts at being the best we can be and more environmentallly friendly as well as caring for our Spiritual Economies and Environments within each of us and our Communities and Nations.

There is hope and it begins with each of us.

Each of us was created witha Wonderful, pure Spirit and this Wonderful precious Spirit needs good guidance and counseling all the days of lives.

Even the worst among us has hope for redemption and resurrection.

If you are a person who is abusing someone will you be our hero and seek out trained counselors and doctors who can help you learn new skills to cope with your anger, frustration, mistrust and lack of education and guidance.  You can let your light shine brightly too and you will see the world blossom before you if you take this journey on, at first it may be a little scary or frustrating but you and your family and community are worrth it.

Imagine how you would feel if there was less violence in your life and more loving and joyful expressions.

There is hope and it starts with you.  Be our hero and make the first call, your worth it and so are we.

My work in this effort is partially in rememberance of my father who was a violent alcholic and a man who did not know how to deal with His problems well and He also suffered from being in a bad war.

As a child I could do nothing for him but now I am an adult though he died many years ago I hope to encourage and guide others in similar situations as him to get counseling and training to learn how to better cope with their life challenges in more positvie and productive ways.

Also I made mistakes myself due to ignorance or apathy of my choices and not over coming the fear to ask for help when I should or could have which could have saved me a whole lot of heart ache and pain.

Though what I shared here may not be for everyone if there is someone who might benifit from this message then please feel free to share it with them.

Salam Alaikoam

Anne Marie Elderkin HAbibi