Islam and Germany: Merkel vs Selafis
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Topic: Islam and Germany: Merkel vs Selafis
Posted By: Friendship
Subject: Islam and Germany: Merkel vs Selafis
Date Posted: 20 June 2012 at 1:48pm
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Assalamu alaikum. There is nothing wrong or deplorable in the last message provided it is made open and known by all. It is the Universal Message. It is the end point of titration. If the selafis (meaning those behaving and acting in the manner of the Messengers and Prophets of Allah including any righteous believer) are going to distribute 25 million copies of the holy Qur'an, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel should insist that they distribute it with : A Contemporary Rational Examination of the Sciences of the Holy Qur'an. ISBN 978-1-4678-8393-1 (sc). ISBN 978-1-4678-8394-8 (e). http://www.amazon.com/Contemporary-Rational-Examination-Sciences-Quran/dp/146788393X - http://www.amazon.com/Contemporary-Rational-Examination-Sciences-Quran/dp/146788393X Friendship. |
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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 20 June 2012 at 6:09pm
| http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/14/220611.html - http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/14/220611.html |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 1:06am
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Assalamu alaika Abuayisha. The Germans said: They espouse an austere form of Sunni Islam, but officials in Germany accuse them of also condoning violence against state institutions. Question: Is there a form of Sunni Islam superior to that of Abraham , Isaac, Ishmail, Jacob, Moses and Jesus? Are the Germans averse to the belief of these Messengers? The false image is that of violence spread by Muhammad the last Messenger. If Germans know the truth about Muhammad will they be averse to his Ideology? We have to save the planet by listening and accepting that which is life saving. Friendship. |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 8:00am
| http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-bans-salafist-organization-and-stages-police-raids-a-838832.html - http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-bans-salafist-organization-and-stages-police-raids-a-838832.html |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 11:39am
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Abuayisha. See the same magazine of 06/15/2012. Friendship |
Posted By: danieldemol
Date Posted: 19 July 2012 at 5:21pm
Why should she? |
Friendship wrote:Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 7:20am
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Assalamu alaika Danieldemol. Kindly view: http://108.167.148.69/OB_WD/384598/ and also. sbpra.com/allamadrsanisalihmustapha. Friendship. |
Posted By: danieldemol
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 5:08pm
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Thanks Friendship,
Your first link is to the book referred to in your OP, your second is to works similar to it. As I understand it, neither of these links really explain why it is the responsibility of German state representatives to tell Muslims or anyone else how to practice their faith. |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 24 July 2012 at 9:28pm
Do you know that the first Christian church to be established... the Catholic church was known as such because the word Catholic means universal? The Catholic church was the universal church. Something I recently learned. Something to think about.  |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 1:50am
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Assalamu alaika. Now, this is the time for the world to understand how to live in peace. If we have one God (Supreme Commander) who did all what He did before Muhammad, and that Muhammad claimed to bring the same, then all have to understand how the past relates to the present. Muhammad as believed by peace loving ones did not come to do away with the basics of life necessary to ones continuity and survival as done in the past. If the followers of Muhammad are disbelieving in him, that does not mean that they should be allowed. This was what he did in Makka and Madina. What I am saying is this: Germany should ensure that the correct system and way of life as practiced and taught by Muhammad should be the way of life. Qur'an is supposed to be read by all and not only a segment of people who read it but distort its meaning and refuse to practice the simplified code of Torah. Muhammad said, "It is the Government of responsible faithful that removes tyranny and injustice and not the Qur'an." I am not calling for anyone to pray 5 fives a day, fast the month of ramadan and go on pilgrimage. But it is common to all religion to live in peace, look after your neighbor, help the needy etc. Friendship. |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 1:57am
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Assalamu alaika Caringheart. Indeed Islam began with Adam and ended with Muhammad. We are being fooled by those who want to enslave mental faculty! Were there no Arabs in Palestine during Abraham. Were there no Arabs in Palestine during all the Jewish Prophets? Why are we so st**id as to listen to only a few self-styled scholars and believers in God? Thus why it is important to read those books and others to come. Also read history of the Arabs by Phillip K.Hitti. You will be disgusted by his comment on page 21. Let those who know the secrets unveil it for peace, love, security progress to prevail in the world. Firendship |
Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 8:55am
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The issue here is not the distribution of the Qur'an. You can buy Qur'ans in German bookstores in dozens of languages. The issue here is that the Salafist organizations say that the laws of the Qur'an and the Hadith supersede German law and the German constitution. And in Germany that's a criminal offense. Neo-Nazis also want to replace the constitution. Same for neo-Stalinists and other obscure movements. They are all targeted by the authorities. We Germans will defend our freedom and democracy and human rights. ------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 26 July 2012 at 10:15pm
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Assalamu alaika Matt Browne. Your remark: Education is key as a holistic, transparent, dialog-oriented process. Response: Education is the key to success peace, progress prosperity and all that good mankind wishes and desires. This is best exemplified by forcing the 'innocent' Muhammad to read! Muhammad does not say all that is in German customary law is not sanctioned by him. You are doing what Muhammad said: Anything harmful to the body is not allowed. What Muhammad insists is equality and justice for all. Unless mankind understands this, then we shall go on misconstruing Muhammad. About 96% of the holy Qur'an is scientific and is to be taught according to subject matter, which is not done in any Muslim country. Probably if the West understands that Muslim countries will follow. I assure you that the Shari'a does not mean veiling the face, stoning etc. Veiling the face is an indication of the high respect Muhammad has on females and his desire to protect them. In Islam you do not punish one without confession and evidence of arrogance. I am watching carefully the argument of circumcision in Germany. Friendship. |
Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 18 August 2012 at 3:24pm
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Assalamu alaika danieldemol. Please forgive me for the delay. First of all your name sake a Prophet of Allah had a dream of the arrival of Muhammad. The German government and all the western governments are not fighting Islam. But they are being threatened by those ignorant Muslims who do not understand what Islam is. They do not have the power to educate and convince their cohorts to understand Islam and invite others. The German and western governments should change their strategy in not arming despotic, tyrannical Muslim regimes but to forcing them to have the appropriate and essential education on what Islam is for all to live in peace. The Muslim world is ruled by ignorant professors of their faith. This has to be removed. Daniel, I watched a Rabbi's sermon on what exactly Muhammad ordained. This proved that those educated in Muhammad will never go against anyone who invites to peace, progress, growth and stability. Friendship. |