Love Islam?
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Topic: Love Islam?
Posted By: Steve
Subject: Love Islam?
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 1:38pm
Hello out there.
I have a question for all the Muslims out there. I am a Christian. My brother converted to Islam and married an Islamic women. They have a daughter together. Tell me, what level of respect a son owes his father in Islam. It seems to me that he just converted to spite his family. Also, no offence intended, how do you expect me to love and respect your "gentle" religion when we all have to live in fear of Islamic fundamentalism. As a 40 year old American male, I can't hardly go anywhere alone because people are so suspicious because of 9/11. I would really like input. Life is so miserable now because of the terrorists attacks.
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Posted By: rudy
Date Posted: 15 October 2005 at 2:54pm
a 40 years old american male and u can't go anywhere alone........chicken! wok wok wok
I sincerlly suggest that you ask your brother the question directly, I don't feel like talking behind your muslim brother's back... please don't drink and drive.....no offence intended..you don't wanna be a 40 years old american male without a driver licence .
..and since life is so miserable now because of the terrorists attacks! allow me to cheer you up with this joke: A sunday school teacher was giving her class the assignment for the next week. "Next Sunday," she said, "we are going to talk about liars, and in preparation for our lesson I want you all to read the Seventeenth Chapter of Mark."
The following week, at the beginning of the class meeting, the teacher said, "Now then, all of you who have prepared for the lesson by reading the Seventeenth Chapter of Mark, please step to the front of the room."
About half the class rose and came forward.
"The rest of you may leave," said the teacher, "these students are the ones I want to talk to. There is no Seventeenth Chapter in the Book of Mark."
peace - rudy
------------- If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.
Mother Teresa
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Posted By: Namk85
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 3:28am
Masha allah to your brother I doubt he is doing it to spite your family if anything you should be happy for him and follow his foot steps, it sounds like ur angry with ur brother y? I was wondering since �u have to live in fear of Islamic fundamentalism� are you living in fear of the other ppl in America.
Are you familair with
Timothy McVeigh McVeigh's ex-Army buddy, Terry Nichols and are you not suspicious of ppl like them.
Children that take Guns to school I mean every1 in America carries a gun aren�t you in fear of them drive by shootings and all.
Der r thousands of ppl in America you should live in fear of if I was u I wouldn�t walk out the door!!!!
OR
You could live in fear of ur sins and judgement day and what answer u will give to Allah and watch all other fears vanish.
to Rudy!!!
------------- special people who can touch our lives,
Are like precious jewels amongst life's treasures.
They shine on us and leave a lasting impression;
An unique mark on our heart;
A gift without measures.
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Posted By: hakeema
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 5:48am
As-Salaam Alaikum to everyone,
You shouldn't live in fear of Islamic fundamentalist or try to blame the whole muslim community for what a few did. You will find extremist in every religion. For example the Klu Klux Klan is a white-racist so-called Christian groups. The praise Jesus on Sunday but at the same time believe that is it ok to lynch a black man or women on a Monday. So my question is if a white man/women kills a black man/woman due his race or vice/versa does the black community or vice/versa have the right to terrorize every white person(vice/versa) that they see? I am not trying to make this a racial issue, and I am just trying to make a point.
hakeema
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Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 8:18am
Bismillah,
Steve, you should study Islaam to understand your brother better. You would have something to talk about with him. You could be a better uncle to your nephew.
The dangers of life surround us. We must be brave or cower in the corner helpless and frightened.
------------- Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Posted By: skygazer
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 8:40pm
Steve wrote:
As a 40 year old American male, I can't hardly go anywhere alone because people are so suspicious because of 9/11.
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That is one of the silliest things I ever heard. Get a grip, dude.
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Posted By: Community
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 8:49pm
skygazer wrote:
Steve wrote:
As a 40 year old American male, I can't hardly go anywhere alone because people are so suspicious because of 9/11.
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That is one of the silliest things I ever heard. Get a grip, dude.
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Fearing other then Allah makes people real confused, especially when they think islam is about fitting in a certain group and taking over their ways instead of fearing Allah alone and hoping for His mercy and then walk.....His guidance is in the koran, and all you need is fear for Hem and hope for His mercy to understand what He put in it for you, He knows your psychy the best and with Him are the cures for your heart. Iqra(read) and when you do this, congratiolations, you have practiced the first sunnah of our prophet, the first word sent down to Him by Allah, "Iqra".
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Posted By: Abeer23
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:10am
Skygazer, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Steve, you have no reason to fear Islam or Muslims. Try spending more time with your brother. The more he learns the more he'll be able to teach you/share with you. Then you'll find that many of your fears are due to propaganda. In sha allah, you'll come to love the religion as your brother
Instead of calling your sister-in-law an "islamic woman" another term you could use is "muslim woman" or "muslima" There, now you've learned your first Arabic word
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Posted By: rudy
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 8:47am
he was drunk when he posted this topic, he probably had already forgotten was that night.
peace - rudy
------------- If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.
Mother Teresa
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Posted By: skygazer
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 5:57pm
rudy wrote:
he was drunk when he posted this topic, he probably had already forgotten was that night.
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no doubt. I can just imagine him nervously walking down the street, terrified that at any moment Al Qaeda is going to jump out from behind a telephone pole and crash an airplane into him.
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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 7:34pm
Do you guys accept this behaviour from other people, or other muslims ?
If not why are you doing it to other people.
Isn't your life miserable to because of terrorists acts afterall it is mostly done in the name of islam! and you guys have to fight a lot harder to defend islam.
Rudy, you partly say "he probably had already forgotten was that night" - forgotten was that night ??, sounds like you were drunk instead
------------- ~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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Posted By: skygazer
Date Posted: 18 October 2005 at 9:38pm
Angel wrote:
Do you guys accept this behaviour from other people, or other muslims ?
If not why are you doing it to other people.
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Any 40 year old man who is afraid to walk down the street is either really drunk or really stupid. I think Rudy was simply choosing the less offensive option.
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Posted By: rudy
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 1:09am
Angle, remember when I asked you to stay out of trouble. why
don't you listen to me just this once and let us man handle this .
peace - rudy
Angel wrote:
Do you guys accept this behaviour from other people, or other muslims ?
If not why are you doing it to other people.
Isn't your life miserable to because of terrorists acts
afterall it is mostly done in the name of islam! and you guys have to
fight a lot harder to defend islam.
Rudy, you partly say "he probably had already forgotten was that
night" - forgotten was that night ??, sounds like you were drunk
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------------- If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.
Mother Teresa
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Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 6:03am
Bismillah,
It is not my job to fight to defend Islaam. Quietly I will inform those who want to be informed. Steve's statement and question seem aggressive and insulting to us and really paranoid and funny. I feel much worse for the people in Kashmir, Iraq, Guatemela, Nigeria than I do for poor, poor Steve.
We who are in the west could be harmed by a Timothy McVeigh or an abortion clinic bomber or a serial rapist statistically more readily than a terrorist bomber. We are all in danger. We need to be nicer to each other and less violent!
------------- Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Posted By: Namk85
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 8:29am
skygazer wrote:
rudy wrote:
he was drunk when he posted this topic, he probably had already forgotten was that night.
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no doubt. I can just imagine him nervously walking down the street, terrified that at any moment Al Qaeda is going to jump out from behind a telephone pole and crash an airplane into him.
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THAT AINT FUNNY!!!!
------------- special people who can touch our lives,
Are like precious jewels amongst life's treasures.
They shine on us and leave a lasting impression;
An unique mark on our heart;
A gift without measures.
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Posted By: Namk85
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 8:37am
skygazer wrote:
rudy wrote:
he was drunk when he posted this topic, he probably had already forgotten was that night.
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no doubt. I can just imagine him nervously walking down the street, terrified that at any moment Al Qaeda is going to jump out from behind a telephone pole and crash an airplane into him.
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THAT AINT FUNNY!!!
------------- special people who can touch our lives,
Are like precious jewels amongst life's treasures.
They shine on us and leave a lasting impression;
An unique mark on our heart;
A gift without measures.
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Posted By: Steve
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 10:28am
I am neither drunk nor stupid. Just very depressed. I'm sorry I was offensive. Peace
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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 9:56pm
it's ok steve, you are entitled to how you feel, like these guys here are but its no reason to make fun of a serious situation that you feel you are in.
Anyway, there is nothing wrong or stupid if a 40 year old man is afraid to walk down the street, at least you had guts to mention that you are, not many men would own up and say they are afraid of something
------------- ~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 19 October 2005 at 9:58pm
rudy wrote:
<!--[if !vml]--><!--[endif]-->Angle, remember when I asked you to stay out of trouble. why don't you listen to me just this once and let us man handle this .
peace - rudy
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------------- ~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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Posted By: Community
Date Posted: 20 October 2005 at 6:31pm
Depressive, let me tell you something about pain.
Pain is a warning signal, that you are doing something that is harmful to yourself. For instance when you put your hand in the fire it hurts so you take it out of the fire. Because if you did not feel pain you would damage your self even worse.
So atleast you are not numb so trust on Him that He will guide you to His eternal peace. He is The Merciful, even when He created pain.
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Posted By: rudy
Date Posted: 24 October 2005 at 9:49am
We have a doc in the howz
Community wrote:
Depressive, let me tell you something about pain.
Pain is a warning signal, that you are doing something that is
harmful to yourself. For instance when you put your hand in the fire it
hurts so you take it out of the fire. Because if you did not feel pain
you would damage your self even worse.
So atleast you are not numb so trust on Him that He will guide you
to His eternal peace. He is The Merciful, even when He created pain. |
------------- If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other.
Mother Teresa
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Posted By: AL Hadid BEY
Date Posted: 29 October 2005 at 12:50pm
Reguardless of what some moslems who do not govern their life by love may do, ISLAM is still the religion of peace. and to stereotype an entire faith based off the actions of a few is truely an act of simpletons.
------------- |-J. Al Hadid BEY-->
Moorish National
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Posted By: fatima
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 1:41am
bismillah irrahman irrahim
assalamu alaikum
im not sure how many of us is this forum r muslims through their own efforts with will of Allah. but being a muslim and just following the right path dont alone entitle u to pleasure of our lord, have understanding n then following the deen is not the end of road, next step is being light for others who r trying to seek the path and it is a hurting truth that this chain might put some1 off, anybody who is sincerly seeking the truth will inshaAllah find it but dont u feel blessed that Allah (swt) might b givin u chance n if person comes to light then u hav deeds for free for every good deed he/she does u have a share in it without it going less for person himself.
i know jokes make matters light but dont turn them into insult, keep them light, a sincere advice could b followd up with a light joke but being muslim is a blessing i think every1 of us should take seriously.
wassalam
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Posted By: soulsearching
Date Posted: 30 October 2005 at 11:24am
have to say steve, there is an unreasonable amount of fear in american culture as a whole. terrorists do stuff cos they're fired up angry young men who've got everything out of proportion..so look out for people like that..not just any random muslim..any culture can produce a terrorist..gaybashers (as we had here in londons soho bombing), nationalists even animal rights campigners. also try watching a real news stations as opposed to weirdo propaganda ones like abc..that stations a joke..its like reading a tabloid newspaper.
try and assess each person individually..is your brother a fired up angry young man with poor reasoning skills? if so then yes be wary..if not then chill out and show some of that christian compassion.
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