Peace and Justice in Palestine/Israel
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Topic: Peace and Justice in Palestine/Israel
Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Subject: Peace and Justice in Palestine/Israel
Date Posted: 16 October 2005 at 8:52pm
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Salamaat,
We need letters written. I'm including a sample letter that came with the following Memo from Gush Shalom Sharon and Mofaz are still at provoking good people into desperate acts ...but the shepherds of Aqaba don't make headlines - a request for letter writing International release October 17, 2005 We were preparing a message about Aqaba when there came the news of the killing of three West Bank settlers. Two young women and a teen-age boy killed, and others wounded in two simultaneous Palestinian ambushes. The acts were claimed as retaliation for several recent killings of Palestinians - among them a senior militia leader at Jenin, as well as of three young Palestinians at the border of the recently evacuated Gaza Strip. The wider context of such horror is that in the West Bank bitterness is on the rise. Negotiations between Sharon and Abu Mazen, or Peres and Erekat fail before they really start and it also doesn't give people much hope to see that in Gaza, after the withdrawal, the siege is not over and that for every inch forward is needed months of hackling. Of course, the many people who are not involved in acts of violence pay the price. As just announced on Israeli TV, Defence Minster Mofaz reacted by denying to Palestinian motorists the use of main West Bank highways, reimposing sieges on the Palestinian cities and imposing numerous checkpoints and roadblocks which were removed in the past months. (see http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/635373.html). And now Aqaba. By phone we got a bit of urgent news from the tiny village of Aqaba, south-east of Jenin - a place where there had never been any violent outbreak during the present or previous Intifada. Rather, the struggle of Aqaba's few hundred inhabitants - and a hard, ongoing struggle it is - consists of maintaining their daily routine of life, in face of a never- ending harassment by the army. This morning, soldiers have confiscated some fifty sheep belonging to the Dabak family of Aqaba - the entire herd which provides meagre livelihood to a family of thirteen. The 16-year old shepherd Muhammad Dabak went to the army outpost, asking for the sheep to be released. He was beaten up by the soldiers, and kept for several hours at the army position with his hands tied behind his back. Finally, he was sent away empty-handed - the sheep are still there. This seems the peak of a new campaign of harassment which began two weeks ago, targetting especially the tiny village's sheep herds. Sheep were confiscated, as were the ID's of shepherds - who were afterwards harassed or detained for the offence of... going abroad without an ID. And the army also systematically set on fire the grazing fields in the mountains around Akaba, with the clear purpose of denying fodder to the sheep. Occupation officials have made no secret of their opinion that Aqaba "just should not be there', in the midst of what is considered "a strategic military area". In the past, several earlier ploys - such as declaring all the village homes to be "illegally built" - were defeated by international protests, showing to the government and the army that what happens at such godforsaken corners of the West Bank does become known to the world at large. We ask you once again to participate in such a campaign. Please write to the addresses in the end, either using the enclosed sample letter or making your own text. [ Dear Sir Again I have to address you about Aqaba, a place where there had never been any violent outbreak - neiher during the present nor the previous Intifada. But it is in Aqaba that the Israeli military units in recent weeks resorted to violent harassment against the village's shepherds. We were informed about such acts as the confiscation of sheep herds, the detention and beating up of shepherds as well as confiscation of the I.D.'s, and the setting on fire of grazing grounds in the mountains around Aqaba. Specifically, I call upon you to take care that the army return forthwith to its owners, the Dabak family of Aqaba, the herd of about fifty sheep confiscated on the morning of October 16. Further, the military authorities must find and punish the soldiers who had humiliated, beaten up and detained in harsh conditions the 16-year old Muhammad Dabak, whose sole crime was asking for the release of the sheep. As the authority over an occupied population it is up to you to investigate the arbitrary cruelty of your soldiers and correct such things when you are informed about them. The international community holds you responsible. Hurling accusations of terrorism can provide no excuse for what is done to innocent people who are completely in your power. -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- From Oct.14 - Nov.15, Palestinian Ayed Morrar and Israeli Jonathan Pollak will be touring the US speaking about Nonviolent Resistance in Palestine. They can be heard in New York, North Carolina, Washington D.C., Chicago, Los Angeles, the San Francisco Bay Area, Seattle and Olympia Washington, Michigan, Minnesota, Florida and Philadelphia. Read more at: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article4247.shtml (including a complete tour schedule) -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- Here follow the addresses to which we hope you will send your complaint; the best is to send where possible NOT ONLY an email but ALSO a fax. Send your complaint in the first place to: The Civil Administration of the West Bank military government, Fax: +972 2 9977326 + copies To: Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, Office of the Prime Minister 3 Kaplan Street, P O Box 187 Jerusalem 91919, Israel Fax: +972 2 6705475 E-mail: [email protected] [email protected], [email protected] To: Minister of Justice Tzippi Livni Ministry of Justice 29 Salah al-Din Street Jerusalem 91010, Israel Fax: +972 2 6285438 E-mail: [email protected] (may bounce), [email protected], [email protected] To: Minister of Defence Shaul Mofaz Ministry of Defence, 37 Kaplan St., Tel-Aviv 61909, Israel. Fax: +972 3 6962757/16940/17915 e-mail: [email protected] or [email protected] To: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Silvan Shalom Ministry of Foreign Affairs 9 Yitzhak Rabin Blvd., Kiryat Ben-Gurion, Jerusalem 91035 Fax 972-2-5303367 e-mail: Foreign Minister's office - [email protected] Director General's office - [email protected] Spokesman's office - [email protected] Public Relations - [email protected] To: the nearest Israeli Embassy: (Addresses of Israeli embassies worldwide can be found at www.embassyworld.com/embassy/isreal1.htm or go to the Government of Israel website at www.info.gov.il/FirstGov/) To: President George W. Bush, Fax: +1-202-456-2461; To: Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Fax: +1-202-261-8577; To: the office of the special middle east coordinator fax: +1 202 647 4808 To: Tony Blair, Prime Minister, Britain (Fax +44-207-925-0918) And last but not least: Copies to Aqaba Municipality <[email protected]> Gush Shalom <[email protected]> |
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Posted By: ummziba
Date Posted: 17 October 2005 at 4:30am
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Peace to you, Daniel, Thank you for this information, it is good to have you back telling us about how things are in the holy land. May Allah have Mercy on the innocents and give strength and patience to those who try to do something about the awful situations there. I do hope you and your family are well. Peace, ummziba. ------------- Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~ |
Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 3:04pm
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Bismillah, I just saw this today, Daniel. Do you have an update? I couldn't find anything more recent than the sheep have been returned, but they have nothing to eat. ------------- Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will. |
Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 12 November 2005 at 11:47am
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This is merely one of scores of stupid acts of callousness that occur
every day in Palestine. While nothing excuses terror - nothing excuses this lack of professionalism and gratuitous cruelty. Every letter written to a politician is an indication of what "other people" think. Truthfully You and I don't really stay up nights worrying or caring what other people think. We are grown ups. We do the best I can to do the right thing especially when there isn't a gun to our heads and we live in a system that claims to be a working democracy. Politicians are like teenagers or theatre arts people. They care a lot about what other people think. |
Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 1:31pm
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Bismillah, Thanks for the input, Brother Daniel. I think they might care what powerful people think. But let's try anyway. ------------- Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will. |
Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 5:11am
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Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 8:23pm
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Bismillah, Dear Daniel, you and your family are in my prayers. And I know you have a battalion of angels protecting you anyway. ------------- Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will. |
Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 12:55pm
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As long as we are on the subject of terror...
As You may know the Hamas has been democratically elected to lead Palestine. There are some interesting things I'd like to share with you about this organization. 1.) They were funded and organized early on in 1987 by the Mossad (Israeli secret service) to destabilize Fatah (Arafat's people) The real face of Palestine was emerging at the time. They were looking more and more like abused human beings and we the Israeli's were looking more and more like monsters. Hamas was not going to tolerate a secular government. They intended to irradicate infidelity. In short they were "crazy" in the minds of our people at Mossad and they (Hamas) were going to seriously delay any hope of a Palestinian homeland of any kind. This sort of worked but in a Monkeys Paw sort of way (that would be that awful story about these desperate people who conjure the dark magic of the monkeys paw only to understand why we should all be careful what we wish for. Between the Hamas' Blowing up of two Tel Aviv buses, our own Baruch Goldstien (Israeli Terrorist) and Yigal Amir (the assassin of Yitzhak Rabin) in 1995. The peace process was derailed. Much like American's great success with the Taliban or Sadam Hussien for that matter, everyone in the government here as well as in America are reacting like a bunch of Shocked English Nannies. |
Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 19 February 2006 at 2:47pm
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Good things about the Hamas:
1.) You can trust them to keep their word 2.) They are not cynical or corrupt 3.) They will insure that the money collected for the needy and the sick, as well as for the promotion of education and infrastructure will reach the proper destination and not the deep pockets of the wives and mistresses of Palestinian authority. Bad things about Hamas: 1.) You can trust them to keep their word 2.) They are not cynical or corrupt... It is my hope that in the course of serving Palestine and their people, the Hamas will improve the quality of life to such an extent that they will be able to take a deep breath and embrace the power of inspired diplomacy the art of public relations and the ability to work the media to achieve justice and peace for their people. It's one thing to fight a battle fired by a sense of revenge and honor. It's another thing all together to fight for the people you love and what you've built for them. It teaches you not only respect for yourself but also patience and tolerance for irritating neighbors. This is not to say that the situation for Palestinian civilians is to be tolerated by any one. What I am saying is that showing restraint and respect for all human life takes an enormous amount of courage when the people for whom you care most are suffering, All you want or can do for satisfaction is to strike back. In 2004 The Hamas Leadership offered us (Israel) 10 years of peace if we would withdraw to our 1967 borders. Sounds like an offer to me. Maybe not the best but it's a great start for discussion. I pray that we all learned something in the last 14 years. |
Posted By: Zionist13
Date Posted: 13 April 2006 at 11:31pm
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[/QUOTE] What I did I did for my love for Israel. I didn't do anything to Arabs they didn't deserve. All of what you tried to deface me in front of Arabs is untrue. O&O |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 1:13am
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can any Mod IP trace "Zionist13" to see if he is really from Isreal?
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Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 6:12am
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Dear Brother ak M F,
Oh please! I know where he parks his car. Before I was a peace activist I was an investigator for The IDF Military Justice department. (An oxymoron if ever there was one). Leave him alone. This guy is in Missouri drives a gas guzzling Chevy Impala he calls "The Beast." He is restrained by law from seeing his own child. Possibly not his fault. He was busted for impersonating a Navy Seal. He was trained to be an Israeli Seal and earned the Namir Pin (Flying Tigers) not more than 2 miles away from where I write this. He Barks and his policy of no biting is a personal choice. Basically he is a good person with the worst luck I have ever heard of. He wanted to be a hero like we all did after school. We had all lived through the Yom Kippur war, terrorist attacks and we were all completely indoctrinated by one Rabbi/Dr. B who basically well, lied. In Z 13's mind I am pure unadulterated evil. I turn him on. He just isn't getting any now and he'll calm down as soon as he finds another waitress... Nah nah nana Nah 1. Don't go putting his IP number up like that. That's not cool. (Besides he teaches people how to work on computers. He could spike you with his hands tied behind his back.) 2. He may be wrong but he's powered by "honor" I almost respect that. He does what he does and says what he says because he believes every word of it. 3. There's a possibility that he's not writing this stuff and we're dealing with someone or something else. In any case Be kinder that I've been. |
Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 8:14am
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Daniel, As always, its good to see you here and in good health. How have you and your family been doing? I'm always glad to see another voice of reason on this board. You and Whisper returning has really made my week. Salam, Shalom, Peace, Angela |
Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 10:48am
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We're good
I got two of my students out of serving in the army by declaring them Well having them declared National Treasures. They are really when I think about it and it was only through the merit of their musical talent that I was able to pull this off. |
Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:04am
Well, God protect you all. I'm glad you were able to do that. 
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Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:14am
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I'm afraid to ask but...
...what advertisement if any do you see when you scroll down |
Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 11:41am
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Palestine Guide -Find local Businesses.... The 7 Great Prayers Israel-Palestine Conflict - history, maps, expert opinions, news, pros and cons on key issues.
Never noticed them before. Years of internet addiction has trained me to tune out the adverts. LOL |
Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 12:29pm
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Okay Cuz I got Israeli Army Surplus gear for sale. Biblical Jewelry and A
Jewish singles club It must be a local server thing |
Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 12:51pm
| lol |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 16 June 2006 at 1:59pm
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Chant with me brothers/sisters: NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE! ISRAEL OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST!
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Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 12:41pm
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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 1:39pm
Isreal cant go out of the middle-east, its in the middle east. 
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Muslima wrote:Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 1:40pm
| Yes, it can. Think again! |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 1:47pm
yes, tell me when the develop "The continent shifter" ray. (After they are done with isreal, I can use it to shift Canada a little bit towards south, so cold) |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 1:50pm
| Disappear, destroyed. I did not know you were that thick! No offense brother, come on! You want me to say everything to you! |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 1:53pm
you mean something like Nuke? Like majorty of muslims I dont support "the destruction of isreal" Please thikn about innocent people before you talk about "wiping " them out |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 1:58pm
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I mean something like the Algerian war of independence. Salam |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 23 June 2006 at 5:28pm
Stop dreaming. War is the last thing those people need. They lost six day war, and every other war they fought. and fight with what?50 year old soviet era Ak-47? Palestine is in no position of fight. instead of thinking of how to destroy Isreal, They should concentrate on improving their economy, or start some kind of construction project in palestine that will help people |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 7:37am
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Don't you understand that evry day for them, they are in a state of war?? Don't you knoe that this is impossible for them to do anything about their economy?? You are ignorant about their conditions of living, otherwise, you would not write that. Either you are hiding your ignorance behind constant sarcasm, or you are not Muslim. We know they are lots of people checking out on what is being said on these forums. |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 10:34am
They made it worse by embracing hamas & Alqida Ideology. Where its in Quran that if you dont support hamas then you are not muslim?
are you one of em?
yea.. but first they need to get out of cave. I heard they are gettin bad reception. 
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Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 11:24am
Muslima's manner is so nasty and I hate to disagree with any one who annoys her as well as you do. BUT Actually Palestinians can't improve the economy. My present government keeps messing them up. Everytime they build something it gets torn down by the army. If the army doesn't do it the settlers do it while the army looks the other way. It's amazingly bad and it is blatantly obvious that my government and my military are acting criminally and are using the knee jerk reactions of Palestinian militants as an excuse for ethnic cleansing. We made the Hamas just like the Americans made the Taliban. We actually gave them funding and intelligence with the hope that they would take out the PLO for us. Instead they organised infra structure daycare schools and welfare services with one hand and blew up my mother and my nephew in Nathanya with the other. It's insane. Even the MId-Right wing Israeli partys like the Likud are ashamed of what is going on. It's not comfortable for them anymore. The settlers are hated almost as much as the Hamas. We're not stupid we know whats going on. Our kids go to the army and comeback mental because they are ordered to do things that make them damned if they do and damned if they don't. In 1976 I interfered with something I thought was not on the program and took a round in the face after it passed through my best friends head. I am one of thousands of IDF Vets that want something better for my kids than THIS. Kids are going to jail rather than the army. Israelis are appealing to the U N and international organizations and trade Unions endorsing boycotts against their/ our country Everyday the front page of Yediot and Maariv (Israeli news papers) run pictures of Palestinian children and civilians killed and maimed by our "Most Moral army in the world" Sometimes I am so tired and frustrated of this S--t that I'm ready to just pack it up and Find a nice house in Olympia off the Sound. Play in a Jazz band and let all these idiots do each other over and over but I know that what I do makes a difference. I know that people listen to me because I love them and I know they can do better. I need a vacation from you guys. See you in the Fall |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 11:31am
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Thanks for precious info that not shown on CNN.
Shaom Daniel |
Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 24 June 2006 at 11:32am
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Hey, Daniel, ever thought of Utah? God bless you sweetie and once again, thank you for bringing us more of the one the ground reporting. We need to find you a Palestinian counterpart and the two of you should start a blog. |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 12:40pm
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Whe a Muslims speaks about palestine, no one believe them. Whe a Zionist speaks, everyone believes them. I do not know how much time it will take but I swaer to God that Palestine will be free from the river to the see InshAllah and Israel completely destroyed. Daniel, you do not like people who remind you of your crimes. i do not like people who commit the crimes. I never say Shalom, I am a Muslim. ------------- Allah Ou Akbar! |
Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 2:30pm
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Muslima, Shalom is Peace in Hebrew.....You do say Shalom, everytime you say Salam. Peace Out. |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 2:58pm
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No, I do not say Shalom, I say Salam. I know already the meaning is the same, but I speak Arabic and not Hebrew, the language of the people who kill everyday my people. That was for akm, YOU say whatever you want, I do not mind the slighest. ------------- Allah Ou Akbar! |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 3:25pm
stop speakin zionist language then! type ur sentences in arabic. You are truely a master peice of lack of education in religion. |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 7:04pm
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Zionism is not a language, and you tell me about lack of education?
------------- Allah Ou Akbar! |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 25 June 2006 at 8:35pm
English is spoken by brits (soo caled zionist supporters) If you hate them so much then dont speak & write their language. speak & write ur Islamic arabic. |
Posted By: Muslima
Date Posted: 26 June 2006 at 1:22am
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You do not know what you are talking about. Learn how to make an argument before wiritn anything. It has to be relevant! Salam akm! *EDITED* ------------- Allah Ou Akbar! |