Iranian scholar on current conflicts among Muslims
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Topic: Iranian scholar on current conflicts among Muslims
Posted By: kodoo
Subject: Iranian scholar on current conflicts among Muslims
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 6:24am
A lecture on http://www.nasrtv.com - NasrTV about the situation in middle-east, specially Syria and Iraq. And messages to followers of both Islamic denominations.
Dr. Raefipoor on Syria, Shiites and Sunnis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7dA_CIMPDk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7dA_CIMPDk
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Posted By: Reepicheep
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 8:10am
OK, Kodoo, I watched the video. Not sure why I watched it, but I did.
Do you have some comments about the video that you wish to share with us???
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Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 1:36pm
I don't speak Persian or Arabic. Could you summarize it at all?
Thanks.
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Posted By: Reepicheep
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 8:09am
I must admit that I don't speak Farsi or Arabic, either. There are English subtitles on the video, which I was able to turn on. The guy in the video really rambles and jumps around a lot, so I don't recommend to anybody that you watch the video.
If I were to take all his thoughts and try to rearrange them in a coherent way, I would summarize the talk as follows:
- Israel realizes they are surrounded by enemies
- Israel is easily defended from the west because it is ocean; Israel is easily defended from the north because of the Golan Heights; Israel is easily defended from the south because of the Sinai Desert
- the real danger to Israel is from the east (Jordan); Israel decided to deal with Jordan by making peace with them, therefore Jordan is no longer a threat to Israel
- Israel decided it needed to destabilize Lebanon and Syria to the north, and Egypt to the south, in order to defend it's northern and southern borders (although, I think this contradicts the speaker's earlier argument that there is no danger from the north and south because of the Golan Heights and Sinai Desert)
- before the Arab Spring, Israel decided the best way to destabilize Lebanon, Syria, and Egypt was to cause friction between Sunni and Shiite muslims; Israel did this by supporting the "Wahabis and Salafis" who the speaker claims aren't muslims; all the violence currently going on between muslims is therefore directly caused by Israel
- finally, the speaker thinks that all Sunnis and Shiites should live together in peace and harmony, and ignore the attempts of Israel to use the "Wahabis and Salafis" to cause friction between Sunnis and Shiites
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Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 12:14pm
Ah, right so it's all Israel's fault.
And the answer to inter Islamic conflict is to find a smaller group of Muslims to go+kill.
Still not really getting the idea of peace then.
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Posted By: kodoo
Date Posted: 25 October 2014 at 8:18pm
Reepicheep, instead of asking why I shared it with you, you could just check my note up there.
Not every thread on the forum is for you. I made it clear that the video was a message to followers of Islamic denominations. And since you are not one, you could just ignore the message.
And, Tim, of course it is mainly the Zionist regime's fault. They even admit to have been supporting insurgents in Syria. They are even treating the wounded of insurgents in Zionist hospitals. Their support to the insurgents is all because they want every country and nation in the region gone, at least become defenseless.
And at the same time, the zionists are continuing invasions in Palestine through the so-called settlements and massacring and displacing Palestinians. Which tells you a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u9uMsWBmLo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u9uMsWBmLo
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Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 26 October 2014 at 3:21am
Kodoo,
I agree that Israel is a nasty piece of work. I consider them to be a sort of Jewish Nazi state.
How does finding another group of Muslims to attack and kill stop the internal problems of the Islamic world?
The principal advantage the west has is that it is tolerant of differences of religion and thought.
Without such tolerance any large group or nation will be ripe for internal conflict.
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